BGA: The awakening monster

This analysis is based on watching and re-watching TV footage. As such, it is not always possible to accurately determine everything that was going on. However, every effort has been made to ensure that the information below is as complete and correct as possible.

BGA is back…and this time it’s preseasonal (again)!

Coming up, part two of your breakdown of last night’s loss to the Giants with detailed analysis of the defensive performance and a few notes on special teams.

Join me after the jump as I attempt to cover every angle.

This week, we’re splitting the BGA into two. We covered the offense earlier today but now turn our attention to the defense and special teams.

Defensive Line

It was a disappointing first half statistically for the run defense, which gave up 67 yards to Rashad Jennings at over five yards per clip. However, 23 of those yards came on a play where Dawan Landry came up and missed a tackle on the edge, so it wasn’t really on the defensive line. Still, they gave up almost four yards per carry other than that play, which is still not up to their usual standards.

One major positive was that Sheldon Richardson, who had been off to a slow start this preseason, was solid early on, twice getting into the backfield to create pressure on consecutive plays and then penetrating to blow up a run. There was a momentary scare when he left the game with an injury, but he soon returned and apparently just got poked in the eye. He had one other pressure late in the first half and stuffed two more runs in the second half, one for a loss, as the first unit came out for two series (a touchdown scored by the Giants’ second-unit with a short field after Michael Vick’s fumble and a three-and-out).

Muhammad Wilkerson had also been off to a slow start by his standards, but he broke through with a sack, also getting credit for a forced fumble on the play. He also broke into the backfield for a hit, forcing Eli Manning to throw the ball away on a designed screen pass. He was in on one third down tackle to force a punt.

Damon Harrison had a quiet first half, but drew a lot of double teams. He did break into the backfield on one pass play, forcing Manning out of the pocket. He was dragged down on the play and could have drawn a hold. He did blow up a run in the second half.

Off the bench, Kenrick Ellis didn’t play much but continues to get consistent penetration against backups. It’s a bit difficult to assess his performance this preseason because he has rarely played with the first team other than on the goal line. Leger Douzable had one big run stuff.

TJ Barnes wasn’t as impressive this week, as he got blocked off the line a couple of times while single-blocked. He did get some good traction on one bull-rush though.

Linebackers

When Richardson left the game, Quinton Coples actually moved back to the inside. It’s moments like that which make me wonder if this whole weight loss/position change stuff is just a ruse. However, Coples did display more versatility in the first half, dropping into coverage on one play and lining up off the line alongside David Harris on another play where he made the stop. Coples made a series of great plays against the run in the first half, including an explosive tackle in the backfield. However, he did get sealed to the inside and blocked off the edge a couple of times. He added a quarterback hit in the second half as the quarterback rolled out.

Jason Babin flashed in the first half, with a strip sack and penetration on a running play to draw an obvious hold. However, in the second half, he was once again blocked to the inside setting up a big run off the edge. He has not been good at setting the edge at all this offseason, so it’s probably in everybody’s best interests to keep him in situational pass rushing role. He did add one more pressure in the second half, but he also jumped offside once.

Calvin Pace was quiet in the first half. He did get called for a defensive hold on one coverage play, although it was declined. He did get one pressure around the outside late in the first half.

On the inside, Harris and Demario Davis didn’t have much of an impact in the first half as they were caught inside or blocked out at the second level a few times each. Each of them was in on one run stuff and Davis also made a tackle in the flat on third down.

Garrett McIntyre lined up in the slot on one play, but blitzed from there and got a clean hit on Manning. He added one more pressure in the second half. Trevor Reilly was in on a couple of run stuffs, but also jumped offside once and was blown off the line on the goal line.

IK Enemkpali was ruled out, while Troy Davis got into the game early only to injure his leg.

AJ Edds has played well this preseason but didn’t have the same impact last night. He had just three tackles and was blocked out of a couple of plays. Nick Bellore did have a good hit in the backfield though.

Defensive Backs

This week’s Antonio Allen experiment ended prematurely, as he was injured in a collision with Demario Davis. Early on in the game, he stayed with his man well to break up a downfield pass, which he almost intercepted. When the Jets went into the nickel package, Allen initially reverted to the slot with Ellis Lankster joining Darrin Walls on the outside. However, Kyle Wilson was mixed in later too.

Walls broke up a couple of passes early, although he wasn’t perfect. He gave up a first down on a back shoulder throw, which may have involved a slight push-off by the receiver. He also gave up an easy first down playing off his man in prevent defense and got blocked out of a play downfield. Early in the second half, he broke up another pass on the outside.

When Allen was hurt, the Jets surprisingly turned to LeQuan Lewis on the outside. Lewis had a couple of interceptions in practice the other day. He gave up a touchdown at the end of the two minute drill, which ruined an otherwise solid first half performance by the defense. He did make a couple of open field tackles and was in good position on one incompletion in the second half.

Wilson had his trademark premature celebration on an early interference call where he arrived a hair too early to make the hit. He also gave up three first downs to Victor Cruz during the two-minute drill – two on deep outs and one as he got picked. He made a nice snag on a would-be interception but unfortunately the replay booth took that one away from him.

Brandon Dixon got some work with the second unit but seemed out of his depth. He got burned for two touchdowns and one other first down and also had two missed tackles. He did break up a pass on another throw to the end zone, but he got lucky there because he didn’t look back for the ball and seemed to make contact before it arrived.

Johnny Patrick saw some playing time late and was flagged for defensive pass interference.

At safety, other than the missed tackle on the edge, Landry didn’t make any major mistakes, although he was perhaps lucky not to get flagged for a late hit over by the sideline.

Calvin Pryor didn’t make any impact plays in the first half, but was flying around the defensive secondary and didn’t make any mistakes. He drew a flag on one play. He still quietly led the team with five tackles and was also credited with a pass defensed.

Jaiquawn Jarrett was beaten for a touchdown on a pass out to the flat. He also had a missed tackle and was blocked out of one running play on the edge. He was in on a tackle to force a punt and had an unblocked pressure on a blitz.

Josh Bush still seems to be behind, but did impress on a nice hit against the run. He also had a bad missed tackle at the second level though. Rontez Miles did not make an impact this week.

Special Teams

Let’s wrap up with some bullet point notes on the special teams:

- Ryan Quigley had a good early punt, pinning the Giants inside their 10, but then shanked two 29-yarders out of bounds
- Bellore had a good special teams tackle, but also missed a tackle
- Saalim Hakim continues to get downfield well and had a good special teams tackle. He almost broke into the clear on a kick return too
- Wilson was badly burned by the gunner on one punt then compounded the mistake with an obvious block in the back
- Jacoby Ford didn’t help his case when he muffed a punt
- Zach Sudfeld hustled well to recover the loose ball after Ford’s muff
- Nick Folk was solid with a short field goal, two extra points, three touchbacks and a kick deep in the end zone which was returned only to the 15
- Andrew Furney made an extra point and kicked off once
- Jacob Schum didn’t get a chance to punt. He did hold on Furney’s kick though

Remember, for this week only, we’re doing a Preseason BGA Extra. If you want me to investigate anything from this game (or the previous two) in more detail, please let me know in the comments, via e-mail (bentdouble@gmail.com) or via twitter (@bent_double). I’ll then respond to your questions during the week.




32 comments
Geoff Dean
Geoff Dean

my first reaction was im dissapointed vick isnt starting. this is pre season, it means nothing except roster spots. i get you go through your routines. any time i read stuff on here, and its all fantastic, the only shining light is mangold. we need more mangolds

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

Bent,

 When will you starting looking at things the way they are. Kenrick Ellis is Sione Pouha 2.0. The jets better hope that Harrison is healthy or the rest of the defensive line will suffer. 

    Interested Jet

McGeorge
McGeorge

What do you think of  Darrin Walls?  He looked ok at CB didn't he?

Zartan
Zartan

It's was Landrys lack of hustle that lead to the over the shoulder play on Walls. Landry needs to stop playing cautious(high motor) and attack. 

juunit
juunit

Ford is getting cut. The question is do we carry six or seven WRs. Salas looks like #5 and Saunders is #6 assuming he gets back on the field. So, the question is, do we bring Gates back as #7 or just carry six? Personally, I'd carry six and keep all four TEs.

NYCPEinGermany
NYCPEinGermany

 I could swear I heard Buttle say that Geno looked terrible at the end of last season. Anyone else hear this? Nothing worse hearing a guy who really should know the team say something so misinformed. I like Buttle, but he does seem to get flustered and tongue-tied sometimes.

Disgruntled Jets Fan
Disgruntled Jets Fan

Bent - how did the defensive playcalling compare with last week, such as the failed trap plays?

Also, in the last two minutes of the half, the entire stadium knew Eli was just going to throw to Cruz. Did the jets bother to give wilson some help there? I just tend to think that you shouldn't let the other team's best player beat you.

levi
levi

some questions for BGA extra:

1 Is Kyle Wilson stupid?

2 Is Stephen Hill really as bad as he looks?

3 Have you heard any inside info on why Lankster is getting passed over?

4 If Fonzie had an open seat at a Jets game and offered it to you would you sit with him?

Disgruntled Jets Fan
Disgruntled Jets Fan

The disrespect of Lankster has been the most maddening aspect of preseason for me. I just don't get it.

Also, it was pretty ridiculous that Snacks got tackled on the play Schwartz (I think?) was injured, and no call.

Jets Fan
Jets Fan

Why was Lewis playing with the starters instead of Lankster?

carlhungus
carlhungus

I can see us looking hard at WR, CB, LB and P at cutdowns.... Something tells me the last 5 spots on the roster for week 1 shouldn't get too comfortable, I think Iz will pick up a few vets on non guaranteed contracts after week 1... 


a57se
a57se

I think you are right Bent, Hakim has to make the final roster...he is doing really well on ST's and looked pretty good on the KO returns...


Have to drop Ford and keep Hakim...

dylan_f
dylan_f

This week finally sealed the deal with me and Wilson. He IS one of the top 6 DB's on the team, so from that perspective alone, keeping him would make sense. But he's not one of the top 3, he's not very good and I'd rather have somebody who at least has a chance of improving and staying long term (like Dixon) than Wilson. I don't think he should make the final roster.

joemustgo
joemustgo

Once we cut Ford, can we please stop signing any more of Lal's disciples?

lcg12
lcg12

Bent, for preseason BGA... On average how many seconds has it taken our three d-linemen to get close enough that the opposing QB felt pressure? The reason I ask is that ESPN showed highlights from the Packers game with a timer on Aaron Rodgers. He was getting rid of the ball between 1.5 and 2.4 seconds. That seems almost unhuman! Also, if you just looked at the Giants game, how long did it take Geno to get rid of the ball?

soprano
soprano

Kyle Wilson - very disappointed in his play. He plays so far off his man every snap leading to first downs or PI penalties.


He should be cut, but he won't be. He will play out his contract this season and not return next season.


Other than Kyle Wilson, i thought the defense played well.

NYCPEinGermany
NYCPEinGermany

@juunit

Is Pantale worth more than Gates? 


Is Daryl Richardson worth more than both?


And what about Quincy? PS?

McGeorge
McGeorge

@levi

1 Is Kyle Wilson stupid?


Yup.


2 Is Stephen Hill really as bad as he looks?


Yup.


3 Have you heard any inside info on why Lankster is getting passed over?


I thought Darrin Walls looked ok.


4 If Fonzie had an open seat at a Jets game and offered it to you would you sit with him?


If he will drive me to the game and back, and buy me the beers, then hell yeah.

levi
levi

@Disgruntled Jets Fan Maybe with everyone else injured they dont want to risk him getting hurt? I really have no idea. Its a head scratcher. WTF is he on the team and listed at CB for if they refuse to use him there.

drjreefer
drjreefer

i figured he was just giving him a look since he had a good week of practice..which is what the preseason is for.

hazard2012
hazard2012

@lcg12


I suspect that any analysis of defensive pressure vs. release time will show that no DL can apply consistent pressure capable of disrupting a sub - 2.5 second release.   


Jets have one of the most imposing front lines in the league, but that's not going to be good enough to cover up a vulnerable secondary.   The latter remains the Achilles Heel of this D, and the Achilles Heel of Idzik's strategy so far as GM.     

juunit
juunit

@NYCPEinGermany 

Pantale got few of them, but he did get first team reps the past two weeks. I believe he's seen as the best blocking TE we have. Gates is clearly 2nd string at best in the eyes of the team.

I'd actually look at some roster cuts for the 4th RB spot. Keeping my eye on the Redskins, they're deep at RB. 

Yeah. They're not even trying to pass to him in games, he's only blocked and played on ST. But we know he won against Milliner, so that kind of potential is worth keeping. I think they're trying to avoid showing what he can do and hoping he can work on his consistency on the PS. It'll be interesting what kind of reps he gets next week. 

 

Disgruntled Jets Fan
Disgruntled Jets Fan

I really don't know. It's like he's in the doghouse, but no one knows why.

levi
levi

@Disgruntled Jets Fan I can understand wanting to get a look at other players it is preseason and all. However the 3rd preseason game is where you put your best guys out there and give them time to gel as a primer for regular season. You dont trot out guys who probably wont even make the team when the starters are still on the field.

hazard2012
hazard2012

 @drjreefer


There's got to be a reason behind Rex's reluctance to give Lankster extensive playing time/opportunity.   I've long suspected Rex simply doesn't believe a 5'9" CB can effectively cover the better, taller receivers in the league...a sentiment I share.   Given the dire situation at CB, there's got to be a reason why Lankster isn't getting a lot more playing time.    

drjreefer
drjreefer

@hazard2012 @drjreefer 

he played with the 1st team..bent even said soo in this BGA.

AA moved in to slot when Lankster came in.

Rex knows what Lankster is, had him for awhile, so he played Lewis. Who had a good week of practice to see what he has.

Lewis is not making this team.


Its preseason guys, you try to see what players got. If they have a good week of practice even more of a reason.


Think you all are reading to far into things.

levi
levi

@hazard2012  I just dont get it. The top 4 CBs are injured and Lankster gets 3 effin snaps?