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djf1
djf1

From PFF:  Nose tackle Damon Harrison led all defensive/nose tackles in Run Stop Percentage at 13.2%. That is the best for a defensive/nose tackle over the last six years.


Also, they put out their review of the 2013 firs round selections.  Sheldon's grade blows everyone else's away, and of all the names we threw around prior to the pick, only Star had a good grade.  Definitely gotta give credit to Idzik and Rex for this pick.  And who knows, maybe Dee ends up a decent pick as well.  https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/01/01/first-in-focus-end-of-season-report/  

marshrandy
marshrandy

Wow, read the comments under the Star Ledger article. Imagine if all sports sites had intelligent comments like that. Bizarre 

marshrandy
marshrandy

Marquis Lee seems like a very safe pick to me, even if it's a slight reach at 18 I would be very happy with the pick

marshrandy
marshrandy

Can't wait to see Johnny Football in the NFL next year 

Eddy Lopez
Eddy Lopez

With the 18th pick Eric Ebron TE or Jace Amaro and go TE in the 2nd rd too with Serafin-Jenkins start using a double TE package like NE .Too many WR out there I like Gallon from Michigan in the 3rd or in the 2nd draft Jarvis Landry that kid has skillz. But we need weapons for Geno and going TE in the 18th is a good start becauae we will draft the top TE.

Lets GO JETS

jdb7
jdb7

Jets should look real hard at Jace Amaro with the 18th pick.  I believe he is the more polished, natural pass catching TE compared to Ebron; who I see as the more athletic.  Either would help the Jets, I just feel that Amaro would make an immediate impact and be more consistent long term player for the team.  


Round 2, Brandin Cooks.  He has sneaky explosiveness, strong hands and creates separation in small spaces. 


As for Ed Reed, bring him back on a one year show me contract.  Let him have a full offseason to condition and train, unlike last year where he was rehabbing from hip surgery. 

Maxx Bundles
Maxx Bundles

Ill draft in rd1 jace amaro/kelvin benjamin/trent murphy who ever is available in dat order

And rd2 allen robinson or odell beckham jr

Rd3 bpa

DarrolRayFanClub
DarrolRayFanClub

Filip Bondy:


Mostly, Ryan and Idzik just spoke about how much they loved each other, which was tough to swallow after revelations earlier this month that Ryan believed he was getting fired, and that Idzik was hunting for a new coach.


The media finds it hard to believe the reality in front of their own eyes because of a conflicting rumor that they spread? You really can't make this stuff up. 

a57se
a57se

Happy New Year All!

jake100
jake100

They are saying Idzik is the smartest man in the room. Idzik by not giving Rex a long term extension, bought himself time and is in the drivers seat. He can now focus on building the roster, will have his second draft under his belt and his stamp on things. If things go bad, he can then fire Rex and bring in his own HC coach, with his reason being that they need a coaching change to succeed. Idzik then has immunity for another year. I like the fact that he is a logical thinker and the organization needs this. Of course the best case scenario is that this year Idzik and Rex take the Jets on a real playoff run, ALL would win, but if not, and the season is bogged down in mediocrity again for a 4th straight year, Idzik is still in the drivers seat. He just might be the smartest guy in the room.

davem
davem

"Brian Winters made his mark in 2013."

Similar to the brown marks I made on my whitey-tighty's in 2013.

bradysucks
bradysucks

Happy New Year to all my bros on the Jets blog! It has been a great 3 years posting here. I've enjoyed our battles and learning from you all.


Bent - You may thank me at any time for teaching you the importance of offense. An unhappy Bent means the Jets are scoring.....(though I am certain you will be secretly happy when the Jets start scoring 30 points a game after Idzik brings in some firepower on offense) lol


A few observations.....


1) Wilkerson not making the pro bowl is a good thing. It will keep him hungry with a chip on his shoulder. This is good and he is young.

2) Geno should have competition for his job next year Competition is a very good thing! The Jets never gave Sanchez enough competition and it hurt him. I applauded drafting Geno but I got no problem if the Jets draft Johnny Manziel to push him......or if they sign a guy like Kirk Cousins. May the best QB win.

3) Brian Winters really had a trial by fire this season but finished the season strong. The arrow is pointing UP. Same with Dee Millner.

4) I'd love to see the Jets sign Eric Decker and Darren McFadden in free agency. Drafting a WR in round 1 or 2 is a must as well.

5) This was a fun season....much better than 2012 (which was the worst season I remember & I've followed the Jets over 25 years)

djf1
djf1

@bob interesting. ..As I expected, jets used their draftees more than anyone, but wow, Bills and Pats used quite a lot of undated rookies.

Bent
Bent

@djf1 


In addition, Kenrick Ellis actually had a run stop percentage of 14.9% which is the best in the league (with Dame #2) if you filter by 25% run snaps instead of 50%.


Phenomenal stuff.

Eddy Lopez
Eddy Lopez

If he falls get him he is no reach at 18 I think he would be a steal but Pit need a WR too and they r in front of us.

djf1
djf1

@Eddy Lopez I'm pretty sure no team in NFL history went TE in both the 1st and 2nd rounds, and there's a reason for that.

marshrandy
marshrandy

@Eddy Lopez agreed, I'm definitely on board with a TE at 18 and a receiver in the next round

jma020
jma020

@Eddy Lopez Would like to see them go TE in the first two rounds too.  Get a FA WR. 

jake100
jake100

@DarrolRayFanClub 

I know what you are saying but it is strange to me that Idzik is gushing not only with an emotional display on Rex, but I heard with my own ears, Idzik say Rex is a great HC, a great motivator,  a great person , and that they are joined at the hip. If that is sincere, why hasn't he just extend him to a multi year contract already? It just seems like an acting job and that there is a lot more uncertainty going on here. 

Bernard Mclaughlin
Bernard Mclaughlin

@bradysucks 1. Couldn't agree more

                         2. Not Johnny at all, need a veteran QB to back Geno up, push , teach and win if called upon to go in, not an untried rookie or young guy. I'll take a Matt Shaub if possible

                          3.. from your lips to Gods ears, skeptical but hopeful

                          4. need to get a WR FA and Decker would be good, but hell no on McFadden , our RB spot is our last need on O and McFadden never gets on the field and when he has the last 2 years he's been average at best

                          5. Fun season is accurate, in the 48 yrs I've been watching the NY Jets  the END of this year has been one of my most optimistic(except for the end of 68, I thought we'd win forever)

jake100
jake100

@bradysucks 


What really made my 2013 aside from finishing .500 and knocking the phins out of the playoffs, is that as you pointed out, Winters and Milliner finished strong and also Geno has really improved. That combined with all our cap $ and draft picks, the arrow is really pointing up on this team.  The biggest factor will be the play at qb. Give Geno some weapons and another solid year of training camp and the sky is the limit for the Jets. I agree with competition for Geno; he is a fierce competitor and that will only bring out the best in him.

kniff
kniff

@bradysucks Great post and Happy New Year Bro, 


Just wanted to run TE Jace Amaro (Texas Tech) by all the bloggers, cause I'm getting my hopes up already for the draft! He could compete with Cumby, Winslow, and Sudfeld, (the later two may have been on one year deals anyway) 


As far as FA WRs Anquan Boldin comes to mind...but hellyeah lets bolster the Offense!!

a57se
a57se

@Bent@djf1 

A lot of folks don't realize just how good Ellis can be.

jake100
jake100

@DarrolRayFanClub 

I think a couple of cats might beg to differ, but nothing wrong with a Rex attitude, lol

bradysucks
bradysucks

Matt Schaub was horrible this year - The Texans and their fans like Schaub about as much as we Jets fans like Sanchez

I'd much rather see the Jets go after Cousins, Cutler, or draft a QB. Schaub was unwatchable in 2013 and single handedly lost game after game for the Houston Texans.....I have no interest in him.. and he is not mentally tough enough to produce in NY. People can criticize Johnny Manziel...but I know that he plays best under the bright lights. Too bad he'll be gone way before the Jets get to pick him.

My personal feeling is that Cutler is the best QB available and he has a great arm for windy Met Life Stadium. He also can handle NY much better than Matt Schaub. On top of this he present a serious challenge for Geno Smith and will either beat him out or push him to be great. Cutler has never had an o-line as good as the Jets have in front of him. He could do much better in NY than people realize.

bradysucks
bradysucks

QB is the most important position. I am a Geno fan and fully support surrounding him with more talent using the draft and free agency.

Having said this I still think it is important to make Geno win the job. I would applaud drafting Johnny Manziel if he is available and/or signing Kirk Cousins or Jay Cutler. Geno is playing on a rookie contract which is a bargain. This allows Idzik to bring in competition to push him. Until the Jets have a QB who is rated in the top 10 or top 15 in the NFL they should not be satisfied. As much as I root for Geno he should not be given the keys to the car until he demonstrates consistency. He had 21 turnovers this year (ouch)

bradysucks
bradysucks

Decker is younger than Boldin and this is a young team. Nothing against Boldin but Decker is a better fit and he is also a big WR at close to 6'4.

I think it is a mistake to draft a TE in round 1 (see Kyle Brady). In my opinion the Jets should use their picks in the 1st 2 rounds on the best WR available and possibly on a QB. We have 2 solid TE's in Cumberland (who is ascending) and Winslow. Signing a TE in free agency or drafting one in the 3rd round makes more sense to me.

bob
bob

@a57se@Bent@djf1


They took a chance with Ellis. Remember he was suppose to go in the 1st round  if he didn't get in trouble.

Eddy Lopez
Eddy Lopez

Agree with u. If we where too take a QB I like tge guy from LSU and with his injury he might b there in the 4th or 5th rd.

marshrandy
marshrandy

@Eddy Lopez They should. The only QB this year I'd consider taking over Manziel is Bridgewater, I don't buy Bortles or Carr 

Eddy Lopez
Eddy Lopez

Yea I read that the Browns wanted to move to the 2nd overall pick to get him and the game he had last nite vs Duke only made his stock rise.

bradysucks
bradysucks

That's really not correct. Idzik's job is based on finding a franchise QB. This is true of every NFL GM because you can't be a perennial contender year in and year out without a top 15 QB. Mike Tannenbaum lost his job because he got it wrong with Sanchez, Tebow, Ainge, Clemens, McElroy etc - Tanny never found a QB.

Idzik is smarter than Tannenbaum and I can assure you that if he sees an opportunity to upgrade the QB position he will take it. I like Geno but I am not convinced a guy with 21 turnovers as a rookie is definitely the answer for the Jets.

We all agree TE is important - we are just debating whether the guys you want are worthy of the 18 th overall pick.

juunit
juunit

@bradysucks 

I don't want to trade up in the 1st. We're probably gonna have two 3rd rounders and two 4th rounders. Some people will say that's why we can trade up. But I'd rather come away with six players from the first four rounds. We got holes to fill. Maybe I'd trade up in a later round for the right guy. Like moving Tampa's 3rd rounder up into the late 2nd.

Eddy Lopez
Eddy Lopez

@bradysucks

You have to stop the Qb thing in the 1st rd or WR when Wr position is stacked in the draft. To move up for a QB is crazy and Idzik doesn't work that way.

bradysucks
bradysucks

Yes I like those TE's because the truth is that blocking is the most important thing a TE does. Rob Gronkowski is hugely underrated as a blocker. So is Heath Miller.

I'd rather see the Jets trade up and grab an elite WR or QB then reach for a TE with the 18th overall pick. The Jets could just as easily trade the 18th pick for a pick later in round 1 or 2 and still walk away with a TE who helps them along with an additional good player who adds depth on the roster.

juunit
juunit

@bradysucks 

Then you'll probably like the same 4 guys I do.

Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Xavier Grimble, CJ Fiedorowicz and Arthur Lynch. All are talented receivers who can split out into the slot but are also good blockers and are true, 3-down, inline TEs. 

bradysucks
bradysucks

@juunit@bradysucks


Yes.... we agree here. Tight End is very important and the Jets haven't had a great all purpose TE since Mickey Shuler.....


Mickey Shuler was a  much better TE than Dustin Keller, Kyle Brady, or Johnny Mitchell.....and Shuler was the only one of those guys who wasn't a 1st round pick of the Jets......


To me the most important thing a TE does is block. Yes the TE is a weapon in the receiving game but if a TE is strong with great size and coordination he doesn't need to be a speed demon.....Anybody who remembers Mark Bavaro, Mickey Shuler, and today watches guys like Gronkowski and Heath Shuler knows this....


The scouts today grade TE's based on speed which is often overrated at the TE position.....especially if you end up with a one dimensional TE who isn't a great blocker

juunit
juunit

@bradysucks 

I don't disagree. There are a number of TEs I'd be happy to get out of the draft including guys we could get in the 2nd and maybe even 3rd round.


I also agree about not wanting to draft another Keller type. So you won't ever see me saying I hope we draft Ebron or Amaro, though that does seem to be popular around here.

But, I'm not sure people appreciate the importance of the position, especially with a young QB. You'll notice a common theme among the teams in the playoffs with young QBs. They have excellent TEs. Dalton and the Bengals have Gresham and Eifert. Luck and the Colts have Fleener and Allen. Wilson and the Seahawks have Miller. Kaepernick and the 49ers have Davis. Newton and the Panthers have Olsen. 

bradysucks
bradysucks

@juunit@bradysucks


Anything the Jets do to help the offense will be appreciated by fans (including drafting a TE with the 18th overall pick).......


I am just pointing out that many 1st round TE's in the past were taken by teams who drafted them way too high......(Jets fans will remember Johnny Mitchell, Kyle Brady, & Dustin Keller etc)


Tight End is a position that isn't just about receiving.....Some really good TE's get overlooked because they don't impress at the NFL combine and other TE's like Dustin Keller and Eric Green end up getting over drafted in round 1 because of their "speed" and receiving skills.....


Tight End is an important position but it can be upgraded by the Jets through free agency and without using a 1st round pick.....


Now if the Jets can get a TE with the skill set of Heath Shuler then go for it in round 1......but I'd think twice about drafting another Dustin Keller in round 1 or Kyle Brady or Johnny Mitchell



juunit
juunit

@bradysucks 

The game is changing, like all sports do. Just because some very talented TEs have been drafted after the 1st round in the past doesn't mean it's a good idea to pass up on the elite players at the position and think you'll get someone just as good in R4 this year. 

In the past TEs were just looked at as a less valuable position. With the emergence of guys like Graham and Gronkowski in the past couple years, teams are not thinking that way anymore. 

I'm not necessarily saying TE at 18. But I wouldn't dismiss it either, depending on who's there. 

bradysucks
bradysucks

@Eddy Lopez


The 18th overall pick for a TE is a big risk. I'd rather use that pick on a WR or trade down for more picks  There will be some TE's of quality who can help the offense available at the end of round 1 or in rounds 2 and 3......There almost always are....


The Ravens drafted Dennis Pitta in round 4

Jimmy Graham was drafted in round 3

Gronkowski was drafted in round 2

Zach Miller was drafted in round 2

Aaron Hernandez was drafted in round 4

Heath Shuler was drafted at the very end of round 1.....

Antonio Gates was an undrafted free agent


I am all for helping the offense......very few tight ends who were top 20 picks in the 1st round went on to have great careers.....Picking a TE 18th overall seems like a reach....

Eddy Lopez
Eddy Lopez

But these TE are slash WR's with great hands and route running. This yr WR is stacked in the draft we can either move down from the 18 pick and get more picks or get a stud TE that wil help the offense.

bradysucks
bradysucks

If you notice.....

Jimmy Graham - 3rd round pick

Rob Gronkowski - 2nd round pick

Antonio Gates - undrafted free agent

You don't need to reach for a TE in the first 20 picks of the draft. Tony Gonzales is the exception. Most of the great TE's like Gronkowski, Grahm, Dennis Pitta, Gates, Heath Shuler were not taken as top 20 picks in round 1.

Eddy Lopez
Eddy Lopez

These tight ends coming out r studs it would be crazy if we didnt get 1. Decker is sweet but he comes with a prize tag is Idzik ready to pay? The way Idzik does business he will for boldin on a 2 yr and not kill out cap. We need to start building from the draft and pay in the postions where the draft wont help.

bradysucks
bradysucks

Makes sense to sign a veteran TE in free agency. The Jets just need a guy who can block and move the chains. They don't need an explosive playmaker at TE. Sign me up for another Mickey Shuler type of player. Pettigrew works as part of the TE rotation. The biggest weakness is at WR and QB. We also need another RB

DarrolRayFanClub
DarrolRayFanClub

@bradysucks Receivers and tight ends take longer to develop in the NFL, which is why 1st rounders are not always better than the 2nd or 3rd rounders that develop faster/better. What about using some of the cap money on a Pettigrew and drafting other needs?

bradysucks
bradysucks

Geno could be the guy but to just assume it based on the last 2 games is a big mistake. The Jets must have a legitimate back up plan at QB in the event of an injury. Geno finished the season strong but any QB with 21 turnovers does not deserve job security. This is still disastrous for any QB.

Geno was a rookie but he ranked very poorly as a passer. The Jets need to give him competition. If he is the guy we hope he is then it won't matter. He'll beat out all competitors. If not I'd feel great having Kirk Cousins or Johnny Manziel or somebody else on the roster as a back up plan.

jake100
jake100

@bradysucks 

I agree, wr I hope is the #1 pick. I would like a TE in the second as it will be huge for Marty's offense and is a key piece.QB wont be the weakness, it could actually be the strength with some weapons and continued progress by Geno. We will see a huge jump by him. I am already seeing signs and that was with a dearth of offensive talent around him and his first season coming from a non pro style college offense. All we need is a decent priced vet for insurance and to push him, like Schaub or similar. I like your chioce of DM or hopefully Goody IF he gets his act together, as a real pass catching 3rd down RB will be big for the offense.

bradysucks
bradysucks

I want the Jets to upgrade the TE position (but not with a 1st round pick). If you look at the history of the NFL and the great TE's you'll see that there are many many high quality TE's who were not drafted in round 1.

The biggest areas of weakness on the Jets are at QB and WR. Geno had 21 turnovers and the WR's are average. The Jets can get a quality TE in round 3 or round 4 of the draft or they can sign one in free agency. What the Jets need most is guys on offense who can change a game. They need a big time WR who they can add in the draft and they need a QB. Maybe that guy is Geno but we still don't know. Signing a game changing player like Darren McFadden and pairing him with Chris Ivory would give the Jets a dominant running game. Goodson has elite speed and is worth keeping as well. He can contribute on special teams. Powell is great insurance.

jake100
jake100

@bradysucks 

TE is very important in Marty's offense. Winslow is not the answer with his health and Cumby is just a decent #2. 2 wrs are a must. Bring in a decent vet at qb for insurance and to push Geno and keep building the offense in the draft. We also need a 3rd down pass catching rb . I am not too confident with Goody Goodson, but if he gets his act together he would be big for the offense. We also need a safety and CB, OLB. The great thing is we have the money and picks to take care of the many needs. The Idzik team has to make it count!