Daily Links: More and Less of the Same

After a long season and as a chance to give everyone a rest, we’re going to try and avoid linking to mainstream sites for anything we post today.  Barring any major Jets news, of course … 

  • The Chiefs hired John Dorsey to serve as their new GM. [Arrowhead Addict]
  • The Jets interviewed Packers executive Russ Ball. [GGN]
  • Westhoff essentially said “don’t blame me” for the bad season. [JetNation]
  • Out the door or back for more? [Jet Press]
  • Scouting report on Bulldog OLB Jarvis Jones. [GGN]
  • Who will be the next OC? [RantSports]
  • Given the circumstances, finding an OC is the right move.  [Jet Press]

 




20 comments
Michael Stewart
Michael Stewart

The Giants haven't drafted a LBer in 30 years (Carl Banks in 1984) so if you are a betting man, don't count on them doing so this year. Also, I don't see the Giants drafting an OT in the 1st round, despite the many mock drafts labeling that they will. That leaves three positions that can offer BPA and also need and they are Safety and DE/DT. Landon Collins is the best Safety in this years draft and that position is vey weak this year as only Collin is projected to go in round 1. With Rolle (32 years old) possibly not returning and Brown and Demps also FA; Collins could make the most sense. A couple of DE could be available for the Giants at #9 like Ray, Fowler, Armstead. All are talented, however; Reese has only drafted a DE in the 1st round once (JPP), so who knows if Reese will make that move. The DT most mentioned is Danny Shelton, who a beast; once again Reese has never drafted a DT in the round 1. Now we come to the WR and the possibility that Reese could draft one. Based on Reese's history, he has drafted a WR twice in the 1st round (Nicks and Beckham) during his tenure. So if White or Cooper or even Parker are available at #9, Reese will be very tempted. Despite the talents of these three WR's, the WR position is very deep and Reese should consider other options in the 1st. With the #9 pick, the Giants will have at least three prospects who will fill a need and also be very close in talent to be considered BPA.

So once again, Reese will keep us wondering what he will do and the only guarantee we have is that Reese will not draft a QB in the 1st round. 

Sean Matrai
Sean Matrai

Well there is a lot of recieving talent in the draft


Devante Parker


Darial Green-Beckham


Kevin White


Amari Cooper


The bottom 2 who we probably won't see by the time we pick. Although Devante Parker looks like a beast, especially with his spectacular catch ability. 


The thing is I would much rather have a defensive lineman, or LB, because that is a more pressing need. 


It is very hard to ignore this kid though.

Matthew Cohen
Matthew Cohen

There are not a lot of top 10 quality defensive players that fit the Giants 4-3 scheme.  Look for them to fill defensive holes in free agency.

Eddie Garcia
Eddie Garcia

I'm sure he'll go with the bpa, but without ignoring the lack of talent and depth on defense. This is just another way of tempting another G.M. for a trade opportunity at the right price. We'll see what happens, Go Giants.

spider43
spider43

@Eddie Garcia ... The only problem with your thinking is that Reese really isn't tempting any GM for a trade for two reasons...


1. Reese never trades down in the first round to acquire more picks/talent. It's a smokescreen, and everyone knows it. He's always been stand pat, with the exception of two bad trades (Sinorice Moss and Ryan Nassib). The Moss trade I may not be remembering correctly, but whoever did that trade proves my point that the Giants rarely ever do any "moving and shaking", no matter what round in the draft you're referring to.


2. The biggest reason the Giants won't trade down has more to do with the vast majority of GMs who value their draft picks more than they value risking a trade for a prospect in the draft who may ultimately prove to be a bust. Not being able to find a willing draft day trade partner will keep the Giants picking right where they are and falling back on their so-called BPA strategy.

Conor
Conor

@spider43 @Eddie Garcia how is Nassib a bad trade?? We got a legitimate backup for eli and if he lights it up this preseason or next he could potentially provoke a 2 round pick in a trade from a desperate team. if not we have a solid cheap backup for 4/5 years. great trade

Paul Cole
Paul Cole

@Brian Webster @Paul Cole since reese took over as gm the jints have been very successful, his first draft was amazing and last years looks good plus two sb while he has been gm isn't bad either, but the what have you done for me lately crowd are never satisfied.


i lived through the allie sherman era so i am more patient than most and winning every year is being unrealistic, i bet there are fans of other franchises that would take reese in a second and i second that emotion.

all one needs to know is there are experts out there who still think obj was a bad pick, i'm thankful reese is our gm and not them.



Brian Webster
Brian Webster

@Paul Cole  Well that has been Reese's stated draft philosophy since he took over and he's had some pretty bad drafts outside of his 1st one and a few picks here and there. So apparently you CAN go wrong. Just because Reese thinks they're the BPA doesn't actually make them so or the best pick for the Giants roster.

jaymanjay
jaymanjay

Go ahead Reese draft as many Wide receivers and running backs in the first and second round to your hearts content.  But guess what you are not winning another super bowl like that.  What did this last super bowl show you?  You can be a great team with average wide receivers.  Browns have great receivers.  Great receivers are not the difference In making super bowls.  Beckham made the pro bowl but his production did not mean a hill of beans since the giants stayed home for the playoffs. Where it matters is in the trenches.  Defensive line and Offensive line. That's what won us two super bowls and that is what routinely is the difference in dominant teams.


So go ahead Reese keep teasing us and take a wide receiver because sooner or later your smarter than everyone else in the room selections will run out on you and Tom.  We will have the best wide receivers in the league but no playoffs. And you and Tom will be home on Sunday just like the fans. 


Do your self, the team, and Eli a favor since his prime is dwindling and draft a freaking left tackle and if there is not a left tackle worth taking that high you take the best DL on the board PERIOD!!!  

jaymanjay
jaymanjay

You give it a rest. Beatty is aweful. The line is average at best. I don't know what offensive line you have watching but they routinely man handled to the point where Tom went o it and got a coordinator to design a whole offense predicated on Eli releasing the ball faster because the line stinks. We don't have one pro bowl linemen. We don't need just a guard. We need over talent when lacks significantly on the line. The lines lack of talent has directly impacted the running game as well for several years. You have no clue if you think this line has been anything but average at best. There are not 4 good to very linemen on the Giants you have average down to John Jerry awful. So you give it rest.

jaymanjay
jaymanjay

Yeah and who was blocking for the quarterback who threw to WR? And you just mad e half my point defense wins not WR.

and your going to bring up the Giants super bowls? They won both of them through defensive effort.

andyb
andyb

@jaymanjay


"Browns have great receivers."


Cleveland's leading receivers last season were Andrew Hawkins (63 receptions), Miles Austin (47), and Taylor Gabriel (36).


Just curious, but which of those do you consider "great?"

Matthew Cohen
Matthew Cohen

@jaymanjay Beatty is fine.  He had one bad year.  Give it a rest.  The Giants go into next year with 4 good to very good offensive linemen.  They need a guard.  You can get a guard in rounds 2-3.

Matthew Cohen
Matthew Cohen

@jaymanjay take the best DL on the board PERIOD!!! 
It is quite possible that there are no top 10 4-3 DL talents on the board at that time.  The best pick may be a WR or a tackle.

Sean Matrai
Sean Matrai

@jaymanjay umm Victor Cruz much. I'm sure his 1500 yard+ season had plenty to do with the Giants making the superbowl, along with the 1100 yard season put up by hakeem nicks.


Patriots in 2011/12 had Gronk(TE), and Welker(very good reciever then). 


Broncos made superbowl a year before and have Demarious Thomas.


The reason the Seahawks don't need great recievers is because, they have the leauge's best defense, along with the leauges best HB. The Giants aren't close to having either of those