Practice update from yesterday on last night’s GSN.





GSN: QBs (Prax / Sanchez / Tebow / Rex) – 10/4/12

31 comments
@Brother Blaque
@Brother Blaque

Funny how Grunwald the 1st round pick to his hometown team. 

That drunk looking MF deserved to be fired as someone said earlier.  

Wow Knicks Blog...how about some positive stories about the Knicks for once huh?

Anthony Kunjbehari
Anthony Kunjbehari

*Yawn*. Why not make it more sensational and say "Knicks trade potential #1 overall pick"


Even though this story is old and Den had the ability to swap for it. #Knicksnegativityforclicks 

Boozer32
Boozer32

One thing I hope Phil does more than anything is stop trading draft picks for bums. Trading a first round pick in addition to taking on Bargnani was a criminal act. Toronto should have gave us a first for taking him off their hands. Grunwald deserved to lose his job.

ItooKewl
ItooKewl

Beating a dead horse but Glen Grunwald needs his azz beat - TOR pulled a fast one...lol

1harris1
1harris1

What can you do? Old story.

hosket
hosket

Last bad chapter of an incompetent previous front office......thought we moved on here.......

BTW...I'm viewing our #1..2016 missing pick consolation prize as Hernangomez.  We will have a position player coming in that will be the equal of any talent still on the board at the 28th-30th positions.  So there.

nyoak34
nyoak34

My research says Hernangomez could def be an NBA player. I said earlier that if you want to really build something special you need some of these sorts of guys (Ledo, Shved,Hernangomez, Williams, etc) to pan out and give you a good, cheap boost. Without young, cheap, controllable talent it's near impossible to build a contender.

j_spikett
j_spikett

well over ninety percent of all stars are first round draft picks and to throw a crucial one away at this stage in the rebuilding process will set this team back YEARS perhaps the better part of a decade. its these types of trades that has kept this team in the dumper since PR left town. lack of a TRUE basketball MAN to run the team. this is not phils fault he knew the situation when he got here including that his division rival the celtics could possible have two lottery picks next year and one each in the next two years after that in addition to their own and the sixers have several extra top picks looming in coming years. it is an unhill ride for phile but not his fault. phil is trying yp paddle up the amazon river with a leaking toy raft.

knicks2016
knicks2016

@j_spikett

True...but, most draft picks are bust.  It take a whole lot of luck to get good just from the draft.  For every GSW and Spurs success through the draft, there are the Minny, Kings, NO, Utah, Bobcats, etc that are bad after several years of consecutive lottery picks. 

j_spikett
j_spikett

@knicks2016 @j_spikett not most lottery picks like for instance cousins. is he a bust? favors is he a bust? and that big center on utah? look out for utah they are building something curry? thompson a number one pick.wiggins? of course you need a basketball MAN to make those picks. that goes without saying. and basketball MEN value those picks a lot more because they are able to evaluate talent. if you can't evaluate talent then the picks are not worth nearly as much

nyoak34
nyoak34

Since you brought it up, why don't you do an analysis. What is the actual percentage ? More importantly, how many years did it take for them to become all stars and what percentage became all stars with the team that selected them. Your statement is entirely useless without the rest of the data.

knicks2016
knicks2016

If Bargnani is healthy next year, he will help the Nets.  Bargs is a skilled big man, with a very good mid range shot.  He plays ok individual D, but is clueless with team defense. He also need to take less 3 pointers.

Him and Brook Lopez will be a bad rebounding pair.

nyoak34
nyoak34

Lopez and Bargs will likely never see the court together. The Nets can have their fun with IFs and potential. Sure, he looks better at 1.x million than he does at 10 but he's still a big, soft, weak excuse for a basketball player.

jason m
jason m

It might be a lottery pick but Bargs was brought in as Amare insurance.  The Knicks desperately needed talent and didn't have cap space or assets to acquire it.  If the rumors that Bargs was going to be waived are true then this was a horrible trade.  Otherwise, without the benefit of hindsight trading future pick for a former number one overall pick doesn't seem that bad.  Also, the merits of this trade have been beaten to death.  The Knicks seem to be going for a fresh start and have cleared out every player except for Carmelo.  Bargs needed a new address.

rico
rico

@jason m Bargs didn't need a new address he needed to give something back to the fans who paid his salary.  I understand the trade and why Grunwald did it at the time (not that I agreed with it)

it was a gamble that lost and cost Grunny his job.  

Fernando Rodriguez
Fernando Rodriguez

with the players we added and assuming Melo has a pretty healthy yr. we should make the playoffs in the Eastern Conference. I will admit the east might not be as awful as it use to be. 

Vaughn Allen
Vaughn Allen

The only team standing in the way of us winning our division is Toronto. Despite Melo being a terrific scorer he must grow tremendously in the leadership department..in order for us to achieve any type of success this season, Melo's ability to think the game will be vital.

Still remember his demeanor the 62pt gm vs The bobcats.. He is usually smiling and laughing it up.. But that night...he was all business!! Really hoping his gravitas from dat nite will return n remain a constant. Historic Performance in a game we needed desperately.

nyoak34
nyoak34

How about calling his new teammates. Or showing up at their first D League game. Or giving an interview endorsing the team. Or ANYTHING that doesn't include arrogant instagram posts with players from teams whose a$$ we need to shred (and silly hats that only that Stacey guy would appreciate).

Get with it or request a trade already.

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

somehow phil will find his way into that draft.  Prob multiple times.  He's done that the past 2 seasons.  He's the only GM i can remember that has actually acquired draft picks instead of trading them all away.

rico
rico

@Vaughn Allen why is that @me?  I never made a judgement about arafalo other than he might be trade bait if the Knicks end up tanking sans-picks this year.  I liked the signing but let's see who's a learner AGAIN? 

Vaughn Allen
Vaughn Allen

Because the article didn't grab my attention as much as A Flo being bait!! But IMO if for some reason we end stinking up the joint..Melo would be the obvious flip because of his value..and what we could get in terms building for tmmrw. He and Phil would be obviously trading with a contender or semi contender..at least getting a first rounder and a couple solid role players in return. A Flo contract against vs his projected production to me is dope.

blanco
blanco

Doesn't Denver have the right to swap this pick?

hosket
hosket

@blanco that was just the beginning of this picks journey.......Grunwald took that [now swappable] pick and sent it to Toronto.

rico
rico

I think us Knick-fans are all PAINFULLY aware that NY has no picks in 2016.  Suggesting that the pick will be a lotto pick seems to be implying the Knicks will bust again this year.  Is that what you think?  Anything is possible especially in the Mecca of Dolan but for a blogger to be writing about the lotto on July 13 is scary.  Hoping its not warranted either.


Mark my words that if things aren't going well there will be trades for a picks. I can easily see Arafalo being traded at some point (if we are out of contention early) for a 1st rounder, ditto just about anyone on the squad with any value other than Zinger

nyoak34
nyoak34

Exactly. That's one of the beauties of Afflalo's contract. He was traded for a 1st rounder just this past year. He'd make a heck of a rental when someone goes down.

Peter Kohan
Peter Kohan

Yes. We know it was an AWFUL trade from the moment we made it.