Link: Jets haven’t drafted Pro Bowl skill player since ’96

Marc Sessler at NFL.com speculates that given the Jets’ recent visits from some of the upcoming draft’s top WRs, the team looks like it will draft one of them, hoping a Pro Bowl skill player emerges.

Get this: New York hasn’t drafted a skill player who went to thePro Bowl as a Jet since taking wide receiver Keyshawn Johnson with the first overall pick in 1996, as pointed out by ESPNNewYork.com’s Rich Cimini.

Chad Pennington, Santana Moss and Mark Sanchez were productive for stretches, but far from luminary. Laveranues Coles made a Pro Bowl trip, but that came with the Washington Redskins — and the same goes for Moss.




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Monty
Monty

This article is useless and annoying  linking to it is even more so. There weren't enough negative jet articles around for people.  I guess site traffic is down so that's why you need to put a link

the title says this 

The jets haven't drafted....
but then they acknowledges that title is a lie by saying coles and moss made it to the probowl. it doesnt say " a current jet skill player hasnt made it to the probowl" .. "it says jets haven't drafted" Its a total lie. its hurts my brain to see people so willfully bad at their jobs...
The "writer" is pathetic for writing it and TJB is even more so for posting it. You should know better ..
can the draft start already :) 

Miguel Lopez
Miguel Lopez

Wait you kidding me right... did you not watch any jets games... what about Darrelle Revis drafted by the jets in 2007 1st round with the 14th pick overall...

Jeff E. Guy
Jeff E. Guy

Cornerback is not a skill position? I wouldn't tell Darrelle Revis that....



bradysucks
bradysucks

I happen to think that if the Jets want instant offense they should draft Cooks who I don't think will take much time to "develop"

OBJ has bigger upside than Cooks but probably takes at least a year to develop

Lee if healthy is instant offense... He's already had a bunch of surgeries

jetlife
jetlife

So Leon Washington doesn't count?

Brendan
Brendan

I like that they just ignored the Moss/Coles PB's because they weren't in a Jets jersey. 

Pete 57
Pete 57

They are talking offense only.

WW85
WW85

@a57se  I think the Ravens need safety & OL more than WR,  HAHA fits them pretty well

bob
bob

@bradysucks


I was just reading that Cooks is indeed the hardest receiver to cover.

Marvel
Marvel

@bradysucks  

OBJ has bigger upside and needs a year to develop?


reason?  curious


Brendan
Brendan

@jetlife  No, because you don't need any skill to be a kick returner, duh. 

SackDance99
SackDance99

@Brendan Besides the usual Jets-bashing, I think that the real focus is on the QB position.  And, there are many successful teams that didn't draft their franchise QBs.

bradysucks
bradysucks

Well Cooks can play the slot where his size and speed makes him next to impossible to cover - kind of like covering Wes Welker if Welker had elite speed.

OBJ will most likely not be used in the slot. OBJ is not strong for a WR. He could have trouble against press coverage on the outside as a rookie

bradysucks
bradysucks

You sure about that? I remember reading he did

bradysucks
bradysucks

And there are many more successful teams that DID draft their franchise QB

Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

@a57se @Hazard2012 @Brendan  I agree 100% I think of all the guys mentioned for this type of roll he will turn out to be the best.Could he use to add a few pounds? No question, but after him personally dismantle a very talented Alabama team in last years bowl game I really like this kid. Archer certainly has the straight line speed but Sanders has that stop & go,change of direction and instant acceleration that gives defenses fits.

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@Brendan @Hazard2012  


Yes, Dri Archer, too.   I think they'd be a perfect fit for MM, especially now that CJ is in the fold.   He'd bring a whole other dimension to ST and the O...well worth one of our 12 picks.  

Brendan
Brendan

@Hazard2012 No, he and Dri Archer have been talked about quite a bit on here the past few weeks. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Don't remember, but since Richardson is being used as a D-Jax comparison in Marty's offense, I figured it was relevant. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Marvel Yeah, I've used Antonio Brown as my Lee comp for a while, I think that fits pretty well. 

juunit
juunit

@Marvel @juunit 

Yes. Before the single knee injury that did not prevent him from coming back in a few weeks or participating in the combine. 

Marvel
Marvel

@juunit

 before the knee issues,?


oh



Regardless he's a wco fit.



juunit
juunit

@Marvel @Brendan 

Except when he had a QB who could actually throw the deep ball. You know, the time he lead the country in big plays. 

juunit
juunit

@a57se @juunit@bradysucks 

Well, he said in an interview that he was trying to run before he caught the ball. So while the injuries and QBs definitely played a role, he also owned it and said he wasn't as good as he should've been. So, can't blame outside factors 100%. But it would also be naive to ignore them.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se 15-20? Last I saw he was up to 185 or so, which would be 10. 

Marvel
Marvel

@Brendan

 I like how you used the word elusive. IT seems like he's better after the catch as opposed to taking the top off the defense.

juunit
juunit

@WW85 @juunit@bradysucks 

You can say that about just about every prospect though, except the flabby linemen. 

In no particular order, I'd probably have to say: Lee, Watkins, Evans, Robinson and Benjamin.

Brendan
Brendan

@WW85 Really? I don't think I'd want him putting on weight that pushes him over 200 pounds. His elusiveness is one of his best attributes, so maybe a couple pounds of muscles would help, but I hesitate to pack muscle onto someone with his frame. 

juunit
juunit

@a57se @juunit@bradysucks 

If you consider that he missed games and extrapolate his numbers to a full season, he would've had a 1000 yard season. And that's not even taking into account that he was playing injured or with a crappy QB. Yet I see lots of people talk about his "terrible" year in 2013.

WW85
WW85

@juunit @bradysucks  Every scouting report I've read says this he needs to bulk up to protect himself in the NFL. Juunit, who are your top 5 WRs in this draft?

bradysucks
bradysucks

For the record....I will be cheering if the Jets draft Lee

juunit
juunit

@bradysucks  

Yes, he did hurt his knee, which is why he missed time this year. He came back a little early, played through it, and looked to be returning to form at the end of the season.

But the "rumors" about his health are stupid. I've seen people call him injury prone and he's missed games once. I just saw you say he's had multiple surgeries when he's had zero. People are unbelievably clueless about Lee. 

I won't be at all surprised if a report comes out tomorrow saying Marqise Lee was born on Mars and any team that drafts him will have their houses invaded by murderous ten foot tall fire ants. 

bradysucks
bradysucks

Okay...my bad...I do know that Lee has had leg injuries...

By the way - I like Lee very much...but there are rumors about his health

juunit
juunit

@bradysucks  

100% sure. He has only ever missed time once, which was this season. He didn't get any surgery and returned to the field after a few weeks. 

Unless he got surgery for something before he got to USC, he has never gone under the knife. 

SackDance99
SackDance99

@bradysucks Well, sure.  But, there are plenty of dynasties/SB winners that didn't draft their franchise QBs.  You can go back to Johnny Unitas, fast forward to Plunkett, Theisman, fast forward again to Young, Warner and Favre, and now to Eli, Brees.  Most folks think the ONLY way to get a franchise QB is through the draft.  It may be the best way, but is isn't the only way.

Bytor
Bytor

@a57se @Bytor  Yep, that's what Vick is for. My 4th or 5th round QB is someone that can replace Simms, learn the system and replace Vick in a year or two. That guy eventually becomes the primary insurance policy.


I think it's folly to think Manziel will come in here and not turn the ball over a million times with his style of play.

Bytor
Bytor

@a57se @Bytor @bradysucks  Because maybe in the 5th round you'll get a guy that develops into McCown, a guy that can hold the fort until we get a #1 guy.


I don't have a hard and fast rule, if Aaron Murray falls to the 4th, maybe I pick him. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Bytor It's also an impossible cycle, because if you write a QB off after a year no one is going to trade you a valuable asset for him. 

Bytor
Bytor

@bradysucks  If I'm drafting an insurance policy, it's in the 5th round and later. 


BTW, what makes you think JM won't have ridiculous turnover problems himself if we drafted him? If he did, would you suggest trading up for another guy that "might" be better than JM and trade him for a 2nd round pick?


This is a bad cycle to get into. Give Geno another year with some weapons and see what we have. If he's not "it", draft a qb next year. Patience man!

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks  I don't see what Peyton has to do with this discussion. 


Let's say I think Geno stinks (I don't), and I think Manziel is going to be better (I don't), but I'm not certain that Manziel will be elite (or, in your words "he could be Kordell Stewart") then there is no chance I'm trading multiple early-round picks for him, especially when those early-round picks would be vital in replenishing the holes that you've spent weeks and months talking about filling. 

bradysucks
bradysucks

I don't even dislike Geno. I think Geno has talent. I also think Manziel is one of those rare talents that comes along not very often....

I do not claim to know the future

If you remember at least 70% of the Jets blog regulars were against trying to sign Peyton Manning - they thought THAT was too risky (rolls eyes)

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks  But you spent all last night bringing up how poorly Geno played last year, so being better than Geno doesn't necessarily equate being a franchise QB. 



(I don't agree with the assertion that Geno is a poor player, just using your logic)

bradysucks
bradysucks

Correct....and I feel certain Manziel is better than Geno Smith

That is my belief.

No GM or person knows the future so "certainty" in a trade for a QB is a falsehood in and of itself

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks  


You don't target and trade up for a potential franchise QB unless you're sure of him. 

bradysucks
bradysucks

Brendan

Trading up and targeting a potential franchise QB is not uncommon in the NFL. There is always risk involved. Geno Smith has not proven himself yet and Vick is on a one year deal. You can act like it is insane to target a QB when you believe in that QB but I'd disagree....

If you hit on a QB it is worth the risk (at least to me)

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks  Lol. 


"I never proposed giving up on Geno" 


No, you just proposed trading 3-4 draft picks to move up for a QB you think "might" end up being better than him for the sake of "competition." 

boomer
boomer

@bradysucks  You don't trade up into the early 1st round forfeiting multiple draft choices when you have other areas of immediate need for an insurance policy QB.

bradysucks
bradysucks

I never proposed giving up on Geno...I simply stated yesterday that Manziel is a great insurance policy especially with Vick on a 1 year deal and Geno coming off a season where he had 21 turnovers and struggled to complete 55% of his throws.....

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks  And those teams generally don't cycle QB's on a yearly basis, or draft QB's early in back-to-back years, or trade multiple picks for a QB that "might" be better than the current young QB they have. 


Stick with Geno. Build a team. Evaluate.