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318 comments
Andrew Torres
Andrew Torres

As long as he doesn't go to the heat in a Big 4 scenario then I really don't care where he goes.  Chicago, Houston, LA whatever.

chudogz1
chudogz1

It's funny how everyone here wants draft picks included in any trade, yet some on here say the draft is a crap shoot...people that obviously don't watch college bball.... Thankfully, they are not the GM... Hopefully Phil already cut the "scouts" we've had because they clearly were not too good at what they did...

goldbuddha
goldbuddha

My theory. Melo wants to be courted and experience free agency, that can only happen sincerely if the league believes you really may leave. Done.

Melo will get wined and dined. Gifted and courted. The Knicks will start making moves to make it look like they're trying to recover from the loss. Teams will start making moves to clear space. All of a sudden there are a lot more role players available on the market. Melo makes his decision. ...he stays. Knicks make moves no one saw coming. 2014-2015 is so much more fun in NY than anyone could imagine.

rb3b3
rb3b3

At first thought i was crushed when i heatd the rumors of melo leaving ny. Melo is my favorite player. However after watching the spurs offense in the finals, i dont care if melo leaves. The ball will never move here in ny or any other team melo plays on the same way the ball moves in the spurs offense. Its a thing of beauty and melos strength is iso. Im sick of iso, i want to see the ball move here in ny the same way the ball moves in San Antonio!!!!!! Melo if u leave i wish u the best, but dont cop out saying your heart is here but..... If ur heart was truly here you would be a knick end of story. Lebron and the decision part 2 except melo will not win wherever he hoes unless its to the heat.

barnaby87
barnaby87

Moke thinks it will be an 3-4 team S&T that sends picks to the knicks (along with cap filler obviously)

darealeric
darealeric

Update:

"Most Knicks fan rejoice..."

jax13
jax13

Yep this just sux....the waiting game is excruciating.

I hope they get something for him if he leaves.

Oh yea, n win a chip along the way ;)

Ray Jorge
Ray Jorge

Melo is not going to Houston his good friends with Kobe and there is "NO WAY" Kobe endorses Howard!!!

manchu
manchu

@Andrew Torres 

You should care where he goes.. I don't want him anywhere near a bulls uniform. He can go to Houston or LA

zebeto
zebeto

@JesusBlasTheKnickWay i dont get folks animosity against lin ..............when compared to our current Starting PG (felton) , dude looks like tony parker .

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@OLDKNICK 

Melo has been stating he will opt out for the entire season. Perhaps Phil and the Knicks team think they can resign him.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@OLDKNICK

It means none of us should believe anything we're reading right now.  Just wait and see until Carmelo makes his decision official.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@JesusBlasTheKnickWay. I think he realized he screwed up by making us trade the farm for him and now we will get nothing for him, so wherever he goes still holds assets to get another good player, something that NEVER happened here... Our roster needs a pooper scooper and a doggie bag..

chudogz1
chudogz1

@knega. Daryl Morey knows Dolan is our GM, and he's always desperate!

1harris1
1harris1

I agree. The Post is reporting tonight that last night's meeting with Melo went well , and that the Knicks brass is confident that they're going to be able to keep him . Everything being said now is really nothing but conjecture at this point.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@knega Grunwald is spelled wrong... It's D O L A N

chudogz1
chudogz1

@illmatix. Amare is great because he keeps getting injured and coming back, talking the best game ever, and getting the most $$ from us... Melo is no good even tho he tries hard night in and night out, and had the worst starting point guard in the league. Tyson is great because he won DPOY, yet he hasn't learned one, I repeat one real offensive move EVER.... Not to mention we have the 45th ranked head coach in the league, because atleast 13 assistants are better than him, plus 2 water boys that have more bball IQ then WoodRow.... But since Melo plays ISO ball, which is all the coach knows how to coach, as evidenced in ATL, yet he's the real problem...??? Not sure how NY fans got labeled the best and most wise fans, they must have nominated themselves...

chudogz1
chudogz1

@goldbuddha. I sincerely hope you are right... Do what LeFlop did and make other players become available, for us... We don't have much to spend is the issue tho

chudogz1
chudogz1

@darealeric. The young ones that don't realize he's the best we've had since Ewing... #facts

jax13
jax13

Kobe also would endorse Phil n Dfish. That would mean he is staying right?

McGeorge
McGeorge

@manchu @Andrew Torres  Let him go to the Bulls.  The Knicks are rebuilding and wont be anything for a few years.

No draft picks, no good young players, it's going to be a while.  By that time Melo will have declined.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@knega. We would probably still be watching basketball this year

chudogz1
chudogz1

@knega. I'm not saying I don't want the picks... I'm talking about the "knowledgable" fans that say the draft is a crap shoot.... More like Amare was a CRAP shoot!!!! Antonio McDyes was a CRAP shoot... Allan Houston was and still is a CRAP shoot... Eddie Curry was a CRAP shoot.... I'd take the draft picks any day of the week over all of these "proven veterans"....

chudogz1
chudogz1

@knega. 3 of the worst contracts in the league in Amare, Chandler (brick hands) and BarnBoy, but no, it's Melos fault.... Not to mention WoodRow a.k.a ISO is alm I know on offense, and switch is all I know on defense!!!

goldbuddha
goldbuddha

Yeah but luckily we addressed the Coach, Front Office, and culture. The cancerous culture made good moves turn sour really quickly. Hopefully, the Zen Garden can produce some synergy and make the most out of a little until 2015.

JerseyFan1
JerseyFan1

AND they play team ball NOT ISO like Melo & Woody (did not involve other players).

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@Mel Brown @rb3b3

Parker - $12M/yr

Duncan - $10M/yr

Ginobili - $7M/yr

Diaw - $4M/yr

Green - $3M/yr

Leonard - $2M/yr


Now that's value.

rb3b3
rb3b3

Duncan almost 40 yrs old, manu close to 100 years old, im talking about this year. You dont have to be an ahole. My point is if melo leaves, i wouldnt be as upset as i was originally, as long as we can build towards a great TEAM for years to come!

theking
theking

@jax13  hopefully ... Houston would be a disaster and if he goes there I would probably lose all faith in him cuz clearly he is not watching what other teams are doing. now if harden is traded for rondo and green then I can see that possible but its not enough basketballs with harden around

chudogz1
chudogz1

@grunwald was trying to get Aldridge and was totally against BarnBoy trade... D O L A N then fired him... Grunwald put together the team the year before... We won 54 games, although we were old... He didn't trade away our future unless you're counting the 2nd rounder for Camby... Not saying he was the best, but D O L A N was calling the shots... He said it himself in Phil Jackson's press conference

chudogz1
chudogz1

@illmatix. These fans are not too bright... They will blame Phil and his 13 rings, because Melo left... They will change their screen names to say Melo was the man!!!

chudogz1
chudogz1

@goldbuddha. Unfortunately, we still have the doctors that remind me of the Mets doctors... They were/are horrible

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@pezhao @jax13

When asked specifically about Jackson potentially heading to the Knicks, Bryant was equally blunt.

“You know how I feel about Phil,” he said. “I have so much admiration for him and respect and I have a great relationship with him. Personally, it would be hard for me to understand that happening twice. It would be tough. I don’t really get it.”


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/magic-lakers-knicks-hire-phil-jackson-article-1.1719441#ixzz34fQaFtlK

jax13
jax13

But he will endorse Phil n dfishs ability to build a championship organization. That is what melo says is most important to him.

The knicks are still going to offer him more than anyone else.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@Mel Brown I don't think they watched the Olympics a few years back.. That ball was like a hit potato, with Melo on the court... He is great at ISO, but Jim Boeheim never ran ISO at Syracuse when we won a chip... Something Derrick Coleman, Billy Owens, Sherman Douglas and Rony Seikley could not do, all on the same team!!!

chudogz1
chudogz1

@BigChiefTriangle. And it is well known that Aldridge wanted out at the time. That is a fact

chudogz1
chudogz1

@BigChiefTriangle. I didn't say he had a great chance, but his vision was a lot better than Dolans... BarnBoy is trash, they should have given us 2 first rounders just to take him... And it's well known that Grunwald was against that trade... So for that alone, I don't throw him under the bus!

chudogz1
chudogz1

@ knega. Grunwald said it himself, look into it... He probably couldn't say much due to MSG restrictions... Dolan must have put some stuff in his contract so Grunwald couldn't air him out!

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@chudogz

I just don't think saying Grunwald "wanted" Aldridge is a good defense.  I'm sure the Knicks also wanted Chris Paul and other big names that they never had a chance of landing.

We can only judge Grunwald on the moves he did make - these include giving Novak a 4-year, $15M deal, giving up two 2nd-rounders for Camby, and riding with Ray Felton as Knicks' starting PG.  The Bargs' trade, whoever orchestrated the deal, was indeed disastrously bad.  Still makes me sick thinking about it.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@OLDKNICK. Thanks for reinforcing my thoughts...you have been around and saw it all

chudogz1
chudogz1

@Mel Brown. That was the team right there!! And Orr the shooter... They forget Melo broke an Olympic scoring record playing with the best players in the world, against the best players in the world... Like 36 in 13 minutes.... Un real

chudogz1
chudogz1

@BigChiefTriangle. I would take Novak at 4 mill per year and keep my first rounder, over BarnBoy and his 2 years at 11 per any time any day any minute... BarnBoy is hurt more often than not... And. If my memory serves me right, Gary Neal had just received a similar contract to Novak, for doing the same exact thing, so that was the going rate!

chudogz1
chudogz1

@BigChiefTriangle. We will never know if he had a chance or not... But we do know we wouldn't have had BarnBoy, and we would still have our 2016 first rounder... Yes, the Camby move wasn't the best, but all sorts of people were stroking Novak's Johnson the season before that, then when he came back down to reality and sucked against the 2 best Defensive teams in the league at the time, Miami and Boston, then it became a horrible signing...

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@chudogz

Neal got a 2-year, $6M deal from the Bucks.  That's reasonable for a backup guard that can shoot.  Not 4-years, $15M for a position-less standstill shooter that cannot even perform one other task on a basketball court - incl. moving.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@BigChiefTriangle. Kyle Korver.. 4 yrs, 24 or 26 mill, way way before he broke the 3 pt shooting record... Great shooter, that's it... One trick pony

chudogz1
chudogz1

@BigChiefTriangle. I would still take NoVaCaInE and his bad contract, with my first round pick, over BarnBoy and his triple salary of Novak's... That's my point

chudogz1
chudogz1

@BigChiefTriangle. I remember there was a similar player that got similar contract that year... Been off the trees for 2 weeks now, so my memory is shaky... You are right about the Neal contract tho, that was a good one...