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Ryan Looks at Pressure to Relieve It

While most coaches would take a cautious approach in the wake of the loss of their best defender, Rex Ryan could get more aggressive.  While his former head coach Brian Billick explained to the New York Times that given a similar situation in 2007, he dropped his safeties into two-deep zone and it “killed him” to do it.  Now he’s the head coach and according to what he told reporters yesterday, he might not take the same path this time around.

Via Ben Shipgel of the New York Times.

Instead of taking a more conservative approach, as many would probably expect, Ryan said he might be more aggressive, mentioning how his father, Buddy, coached teams in Chicago that harassed quarterbacks despite an anonymous secondary.

In theory, that strategy makes sense: if the Jets feel exposed at cornerback, increasing their pressure would be a way of preventing the quarterback from dissecting the diminished secondary. In practice, the counterargument is fierce; the Jets, supported by three weeks of evidence, have struggled at generating a consistent pass rush, recording 3 sacks and 10 quarterback hits — 5 across their last two games.

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

The last part there is key.  To force a passer to make a quicker decision, the defense needs to generate effective pressure to force the the throw too early.  If Ryan can’t get his defensive front to get that pressure, then taking a more aggressive approach becomes a moot point.  The Jets must get penetration up front to allow ease the burden on the secondary.  So far the Jets haven’t been able to do that properly and any secondary without Darrelle Revis in the game is going to suffer for it.  With Darrelle, the Jets had the luxury of placing a lesser value on pressure.  Now more than ever it comes down to pressure.  Pressure on the quarterback and pressure on the coach.



18 comments
Eamonn Scollan
Eamonn Scollan

Hoping a franchise tackle us there at 12. Need to give Eli time for GMEN to have a shot.

James D Kimberlin
James D Kimberlin

Seriously, why is there this infatuation with wanting to trade Eli. I don't get. People are jaded about how GOOD he is. He won 2x SuperBowls, can make every pass, is Personable and not a trouble maker. Why why why .



bleedblue4
bleedblue4

And you know we don't agree on Donald, he's an excellent 3 tech but that's not what the Giants play. He fits the Tampa 2 defense I think taking Donald would blow up in their faces. 

Bo Beck
Bo Beck

You make some good points, you also give some reason's why trading Eli would e the right choice. Yes the salary and injury hurt the odds. Then again Eli is declining and if we look at Eli's career he really has had only 1 elite season. Yet he is a proven QB that Jac and Cle are dying for. I really don't see trading Eli as a bad thing. The talent that could be had in this draft is amazing. If they do trade Eli you can end up with Matthews and Dix in the first round. Or Mack and Martin, Watkins and Ebron any combination your heart chooses. Mack and trading back 3to 4 slots to 15-17 would be my choice more picks and the versatile Martin.


I truly believe with the new system that will be implemented Freeman will be ok. Especially if Finley is signed and Benjamin is taken in the second. Which I would move back into the first and grab him. Which you can get a 2nd in the Eli deal and draft a CB/S. You can fill a lot of holes with young cheap talented players which is what the Seahawks did. And trade a pick for Mallet or Cousins.

bleedblue4
bleedblue4

You make some good points, you also give some reason's why trading Eli would e the right choice. Yes the salary and injury hurt the odds. Then again Eli is declining and if we look at Eli's career he really has had only 1 elite season. Yet he is a proven QB that Jac and Cle are dying for. I really don't see trading Eli as a bad thing. The talent that could be had in this draft is amazing. If they do trade Eli you can end up with Matthews and Dix in the first round. Or Mack and Martin, Watkins and Ebron any combination your heart chooses. Mack and trading back 3to 4 slots to 15-17 would be my choice more picks and the versatile Martin.


I truly believe with the new system that will be implemented Freeman will be ok. Especially if Finley is signed and Benjamin is taken in the second. Which I would move back into the first and grab him. Which you can get a 2nd in the Eli deal and draft a CB/S. You can fill a lot of holes with young cheap talented players which is what the Seahawks did. And trade a pick for Mallet or Cousins.

bleedblue4
bleedblue4

@James D Kimberlin Those two super bowls were a while ago. And every throw c'mon now guy Eli has had 1 elite season that's all. Stop overlying this guy, Both Super bowls had more to do with the defense then the offense. You do what is need to win, if a mediocre QB who is on the decline and making a ton of money needs to go to improve your team then so be it.


Please look at his stats and tell me how good he is. How many interceptions did he throw last year, how many in his career? Your making this guy out to be god when the truth is he is Joe Namath and that's not saying much.

James D Kimberlin
James D Kimberlin

@Bo Beck What do you think you'd be getting back? Seriously the reasons you want to trade him Older, Declining... what are you gonna get a 2nd round choice.  Every reason you can give to get Multiple 1's 2's and 3's are the very reasons you keep him!


 And who would replace him Freeman, are you kidding me, have you watched football in the last few years.


It would be the worst trade ever!

Billy Suede
Billy Suede

You mean Joe namath, the hall of famer? The one that Eli has one more ring than?

Eli may not be god or his brother but he's done more than enough to earn more respect than he gets with some entitled giants fans.

bleedblue4
bleedblue4

@James D Kimberlin @Bo Beck No it's the reason you get rid of him there are to many holes to fill on this team. He eat's up to much salary and is getting older. If you for one minute believe this team has a shot of beating Seattle or SF your nuts. You fill your holes become a better "TEAM".  You could get a 1 a 2 and a 4. And if you read what I wrote you'd see who I'd replace him with. Cruz and Nicks made Eli as well as Plax, just like Cruz and Randle to go along Benjamin who could also be moved to TEwould make anyone of the 2 I mentioned a good QB for this team.

spider43
spider43

@Billy Suede  .....  True. But leading the league in interceptions (and the high amount of interceptions he's thrown in the last 3 or 4 years) is reason enough for most people to be fairly critical of Eli as an "elite" QB. I believe an elite QB carries the team on his back and into the playoffs most years. Missing the playoffs 4 out of the last 5 years isn't totally all to blame on Eli, but he certainly hasn't helped either.

Billy Suede
Billy Suede

@spider43 @Billy Suede  pats are a bad example given the  fact their division has been abominable the last decade. one could argue the patriots could easily go 5-1 every year just playing the afc east and then remain steady against the rest of their schedule to earn a playoff spot.


i agree with you otherwise. i just balk at that faction of giants fans that lay all the blame at eli's feet. those sentiments didn't suddenly start this year. these fans always had an issue and this year gave them enough ammunition to pounce. 

spider43
spider43

@Billy Suede "you don't make the playoffs every year because as soon as you win, someone wants to get paid..."


Generally speaking, that seems to be true on the face it, but there is at least one example I can think of that proves it CAN be done (Patriots). They routinely underpay and let players walk away via free agency, yet they never have any problems attracting free agents to join their team because they win year-in and year-out. Despite winning only one Super Bowl in the Tom Brady era, they routinely make the playoffs, and THAT is a key for becoming a championship caliber team... you can't win a Super Bowl unless you make the playoffs in the first place.


Meanwhile, the Giants have missed the playoffs in 4 out the last 5 years. There's a LOT of blame to go around for the reasons behind that, and I agree that trading Eli now won't solve the problem about getting back to the playoffs. But even with Eli, we haven't been making the playoffs. It's not any one player responsible for that;  it takes a total team, coaching staff, and front office to make that happen, and the results of the last 5 years speaks for itself. The changes the Giants made this off-season reflected at least a few of the changes that were needed, but I would argue they needed more. Only time will tell whether there will be even more changes forthcoming in the next off-season. If the Giants can't make the playoffs this year, more heads should roll.

Billy Suede
Billy Suede

@bleedblue4 @Billy Suede  that's not how the nfl works in the salary cap era. you don't make the playoffs every year because as soon as you win, someone wants to get paid. just ask the steelers and the ravens. the seahawks will learn that soon enough when it comes time to pay russell. the fact of the matter is the giants won two rings in the last seven years and eli (whether you choose to accept it or not) has two mvps. everything else is background noise. 


eli has earned the chance to prove last year was a fluke given the fact he had no offensive line, no hakeem nicks for the most part and a tepid at best running game. 


if he struggles again, all bets are off after this season. furthermore, trading eli is a foolhardy move as that's pretty much a tacit admission the giants are punting  on 2014 since they'd essentially be starting a rookie quarterback or a retread like josh freeman which we know will not happen since john mara put out the mandate from reese down to coughlin. 


being a realist means dealing with the facts, not interpretation via personal bias. 



bleedblue4
bleedblue4

@Skookaloop lmao another know it all, I seen your post in the past and preferred to ignore them with how ignorant they are. Not to mention seen many others call you out as well. Not to mention how many times you flip flop in what you feel.


So going any further in this discussion with " You " would be a waste of time.

Skookaloop
Skookaloop

@bleedblue4 @Billy Suede  

MR.BleedBlue,

One of the Greatest Things about NFL FootBall is,

No matter How LITTLE you Know,

you can Still ENJOY the Games...........

bleedblue4
bleedblue4

@Billy Suede Namath made the HOF fame because of 1 super bowl that's all. Another overrated NY QB, don't believe me look at his stats. And just like Namath Eli is a decent QB at best. I never seen him as an elite QB and he isn't. Now did I say he sucked no I didn't, overrated big time.


For all of you who forget the N.Y Giants won 2 SB's not just Eli. Without the defense in both games they lose both. I want my team in the playoffs for years to come with a shot at winning SB's every year. And if trading an aging, declining QB is the way to do that then I do it. Whoever don't believe an extra 1,2 and 5 doesn't help this team fill it's holes nothing will.


They are not good enough as they stand sorry if I'm a realist they just aren't.