Audible: What camp battles are you watching this summer?

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Players arrive in Cortland on Monday and many fans make their annual pilgrimage to Cortland. With camp about to get underway tomorrow morning, the full squad will be as Rex says “getting after it.”

With that in mind, are there any camp battles at which you’re going to be paying close attention? Whether it’s for starting spots, backup roles, or as core special teamers, we want to hear it.

How will the WR position shake out? What will the offensive line look like? Who will be starting opposite from Dee Milliner come September.

Let us know!




134 comments
rock316nyj
rock316nyj

Very intrigued by the battle at CB beyond Milliner, not sure anyone has a spot secured...can see Miles out playing a Landry or Jarrett to win a spot at safety also

Dan Leyes
Dan Leyes

I'll be looking to see who wins the "Big Ugly" Contest the Jets have in camp each year. With Vlad gone, who do you guys think are the frontrunners for this award?

a57se
a57se

Damn...Beckham should have been a Jet...he is already on his second Hammy...

jaym
jaym

The battle between Cimini and Manish on who can write the dumbest speculative story about the Jets

SackDance99
SackDance99

I'm always interested in the guy that doesn't get any pre-camp buzz, but then wins a starting job, like Snacks did last year.  Whose this year's Snacks?


My candidates:


Zach Sudfeld - Amaro will get every opportunity to win a starting spot, but Cumby could be edged out by the 6-7 Sudfeld. Amaro at 6-5 3/8 and Sudfeld at 6-7 and that's some serious size at the TE position.


Daryl Richardson - At his best, he was a much better RB than Bilal Powell, who is just the epitome of average.


Darrin Walls - In some ways, he's Dimitri Patterson, but 5 years younger.


Patrick Ford - A classic deep sleeper, but having been with both the Jets and Pats and possessing great size, I could see him leap-frogging Aboushi, Campbell and Schlauderoff for that potential OG spot if Colon can't make it.

bonozoffa
bonozoffa

The battle I LEAST look forward to is the battle of "football smarts, reason, and general human intelligence" vs Manish, Cimini, and the rest of the "hack posse" known as the Jets beat writers.

Denzil Ludford
Denzil Ludford

The battle I'm looking forward to is Tajh Boyd & Matt Simms for the QB3 position! According to Rich Cimini Simms is on the bubble. I disagree, I love his arm & mobility. If Geno is getting 75% of the snaps I don't see them getting a fair amount of reps to distinguish the winner of the spot. A matter of fact Simms would have an edge; having a year under his belt in M.Marty Offense.

rexryguy
rexryguy

how about the starting 5 on the o-line? i trust 'brick and mangold to take care of business but Breno, winters, and colon are all question marks to me. Last year (especially towards the end of the year) I thought the pass protection was limiting the potential of the offense. from what i understand Breno is a slight downgrade from howard, colon is serviceable yet declining, and winters is below average but getting better. we have gotten deeper on our line but you can only start 5; I am curious to see if our starting 5 is better or worse than last year.

Paul Samuels
Paul Samuels

The battle for that second WR spot has to be the most intriguing of all. Who will step up to line up across from Decker. Since I consider Kerley as more of a slot guy, I hope Nelson or Hill can step up so that the Jets have some height on the outside. With AMaro and Cumby locked in as the TE's, both 6'3, the Jets should be able to get back to consistent play down in the redzone. Of course, the QB comp is pretty interesting too. 

hitchhiker
hitchhiker

Chad Young vs T-Bo. I'm not sure how indicative Young's highlight film is of his play on every down, but the dude punishes defenders. I'd love to see Young beat out the unimpressive T-Bo.

a57se
a57se

@Dan Leyes 

Rontez Miles if he is still on the roster for that...

a57se
a57se

@jaym 

and their battle to see who keeps the best score in the QB controversy...

a57se
a57se

@Denzil Ludford 

I would think Boyd would have the inside track as he was a Rex pick and he is more like Geno and Vick than Simms in style.

Plus boyd is an Idzik draft pick, not a holdover Free Agent from tanny...

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Denzil Ludford To clarify, Geno will be getting 75% of the snaps with the ones.


Simms and Boyd will each get plenty of snaps with the twos and threes, which is sufficient to allow one of them to win a backup QB#3 job.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Paul Samuels

It's funny, because I find "Who will be WR#2?" to be probably the least interesting, personally.


Because 

A.) Marty will use a healthy dose of  3 and 4 and 5 WR sets, and 

B.) so frequently when in 2WR sets will have twins on one side of the field,


I expect Kerley (in the slot) to be the WR#2 in terms of actual snaps and targets and expect a healthy dose of all the other guys who make the final roster (be they Nelson, Hill, Evans, Enunwa, Ford, Saunders, whatever) to all get snaps and all get opportunities.


I'm just expecting all of them to get thrown in there in varying doses, week-to-week, as secondary options to the big two chainmovers of Decker and Kerley.

Brendan
Brendan

@hitchhiker Young being a viable receiver would make him way more valuable than T-Bo. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan Hey I called that!


THE MAYOR OF THE PUP LIST!

a57se
a57se

@Brendan 

So do guys on the PUP list still take one of the 90 roster spots?

bonozoffa
bonozoffa

@Bent a battle as old as time itself....or as old as the media, at least.

Denzil Ludford
Denzil Ludford

If the Jets are following the Seattle model of competition. Like they did with High paying Matt Flynn and third rd pick Russell Wilson. Then all Matt Simms needs to do is light it up in camp regardless if he's a Tanny pick. I can't wait.

Paul Samuels
Paul Samuels

@tsjc68 @Paul Samuels Kerley is the "#2", but who will line up in those 3WR sets will be interesting. Ford is no more than a special team player, and I fully expect Saunders to overtake his role by mid season. 

hitchhiker
hitchhiker

@brendan He didn't catch many passes in college, but I don't know if that is due to the system or a lack of ability.

He had a few catches on his highlight reel, & while they weren't the most graceful, it looked like he "attacked the football" & secured the football before going back to knocking defenders down, fwiw.

He might be a capable short yardage/goal line RB too. I'd HATE to see Boss Hogg get hurt filling that role.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@a57se @Brendan

Active PUP, yes.

PUP/Reserve clears them of the 90/75/53 man roster limit, but they can't come back until Week 7.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Marcus Armstrong @tsjc68 @Paul Samuels

Sure.


I can see one of those guys (Hill, Nelson, Ford, Saunders, Evans, Enunwa, and Amaro, who is basically a big WR anyway) emerging as a legit good NFL wideout throughout the course of the season and slowly supplanting one of Decker or Kerley as a favored target of Geno down the stretch, but at first I expect most of the targets to go to Decker, Kerley, and Chris Johnson.

Brendan
Brendan

@hitchhiker  Yeah, I noticed on his tape that he's a capable pass catcher. Might never be anything more than a safety valve, but if a FB can block well and catch an open pass in the flat, he can find a role in Marty's system. 

a57se
a57se

@Bent @a57se @Brendan 

Are there situations where a guy could come back during training camp but not count on the 90 man roster until he comes back?


tsjc68
tsjc68

@__fense @a57se @Brendan

There's two PUP designations, the PUP/Active and PUP/Reserve. 


You can be placed on PUP/Active as long as you have not practiced and can be removed from it at any time.  You stay on the 90 (or 75) man camp roster while on PUP/Active.


When you go on PUP/Reserve, you must miss the first 6 weeks of the season. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent @Brendan Uhh, I guess you could cut a guy and then pretend you had him in on a tryout basis.


During the season you do can get roster exemptions for certain returns.

a57se
a57se

@Bent @a57se @Brendan 

how about the NFI list? Do those guys count against the 90 man roster?

I just noticed the Bengals made a lot of moves recently with the PUP and NFI lists..then they signed that kidd Lakendrick Ross...

tsjc68
tsjc68

@a57se @Bent @Brendan

Again, all those various designations (Did Not Report, Physically Unable to Perform, Non-Football Injury) come with either an Active designation or a Reserve designation.


All those guys all these teams put on the PUP or the NFI lists today were all Active designations.


If you go on the Reserve designation, you don't count against the roster but there's restrictions in terms of how many regular season games you must sit out before you can be re-activated.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent @Brendan The NFI list is more to do with the team protecting themselves against being liable to pay the player while they remain injured.

a57se
a57se

@tsjc68 @a57se @Bent @Brendan 

Yeah, in the transactions report I saw for the Bengals, they didn't specify Active or Reserve...just that 6 or 7 guys were put on the PUP list and 3 were put on the NFI list...

a57se
a57se

@Bent @a57se @Brendan 

OK...I was just wondering if there was some way to put a guy on one of those lists, bring in a guy to check out,. then if he doesn't work out...dump him and take the original guy off the list...weird, i know.

a57se
a57se

@Paul Samuels

Yup and if you notice, my response was directed at 68...

The first guy listed in the response is the target of the comment...

see here I deleted all the other names except yours...

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @tsjc68 @Bent @Brendan FWIW the Bengals still have 90 active players on their roster, including Ross.  The PUP and NFI guys are presumably within that 90.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@a57se @tsjc68 @Bent @Brendan

If they don't specify, assume it's Active.


Teams aren't going to rule a guy out for Week 1 until absolutely necessary.  You probably won't see any reserve designations until the cutdown to 75 at the absolute earliest.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@a57se @Paul Samuels

I will not stop calling Amaro a big slot WR, because just like Jimmy Graham or Eric Ebron or Aaron Hernandez or any of the other F tight ends, that's what he is.


A big slot WR.

a57se
a57se

@tsjc68 @a57se @Bent @Brendan 

Thanks for the info...

I have been edumacated...