Babin eager to play for Rex Ryan’s defense

The New York Post’s Brian Costello posted an article on Jets pass rusher Jason Babin and the role he might play for the Jets and how moving from the Jaguars to the Jets could be a big upgrade for the veteran pass-rusher.

“I think the exciting part for me individually is how Rex and [defensive coordinator Dennis Thurman] utilize me within the scheme, one,” Babin said. “Two, I’m excited to see where it goes because this will be a situation where I get a lot more opportunities to rush the passer versus [what he had with] Jacksonville.”

Babin managed 7½ sacks last year, but said his production suffered as opponents took big leads on the 4-12 Jaguars and then ran the ball for most of the second half.

“When you’re losing by a couple of touchdowns every game … there were quite a few situations where the backup quarterback finished because it was a mercy situation,” Babin said.

The 34-year-old said it feels totally different with the Jets. He is excited about what he can do in the Jets’ defense.

“You could feel it from Day 1,” Babin said of the optimism around the team. “Just look at the defense. That’s why I came here — Rex Ryan and the defense. I’m going to enjoy myself these last few years.”

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

We really liked Antwan Barnes and what he could offer the defense, but it looks likely that Babin is an upgrade as a pass rusher for the Jets.  While we don’t think Babin will have a role with the Jets base defense due to the way he plays and the value he can bring in stopping the run, his role will be one that shows up on the box score week in and out.

Babin will see significant time on third down or in down and distance situations.  Babin is a good pass rusher demonstrating explosiveness and power.  If Calvin Pace can glean 10 sacks in a season with the Sons of Anarchy, then we imagine that Babin can boost that level of production.  Consider also that the Jets will be able to bring both Coples and Babin as rushers, which means that someone is going to come free and push the passer of their spot, if not disrupt the play in the backfield early and often.




95 comments
williamg1
williamg1

Of course Gary Myers would write an article about Michael Sam. 

hitchhiker
hitchhiker

I just watched the Karl Dunbar video & he mentioned Rex values making the QB uncomfortable in the pocket over sacks, which I thought was interesting.

If Coples plays to his potential, the addition of Babin (who is in a near perfect scheme & role considering his skillset) gives the Jets a fierce pass rush.

Pablo Bruno
Pablo Bruno

Yea, I liked what I saw in the Giants game, I'm not sure if it's because the Giants linemen were that bad or it's that we are that improved in the pass rush, hopefully the Giants linemen are better then that and we just dominated, that would be big, because teams will have to resort to quick outs, if the pass rush can keep teams from having enough time to look deep, I think we have a shot of  averaging 17 pts a game, considering we play big time passing offenses this season it's good. And our offense would need to compliment that by scoring 24 pts a game, which I think they are capable of.

jdb4
jdb4

This is partly why the lack of corners on this team is being over blown.  Improved safety play as well as a consistent pass rush with mask it.


The corner position will be addressed after week one when veteran salaries are no longer guaranteed

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

" Consider also that the Jets will be able to bring both Coples and Babin as rushers, which means that someone is going to"....lose a ton of snaps !!

Finished that for you Brian!!

jdb4
jdb4

@williamg1 

Does he blame ESPN for ruining the guys career?

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@hitchhiker 

" Rex values making the QB uncomfortable in the pocket over sacks, which I thought was interesting."

It's NOT interesting....it is a weak attempt at making his "Boys" look better than what they are !!!

A sack IS the culmination  (the epitome) of  a pass rush!! Like Dunbar says....it is THE $$$$$ move !!!

williamg1
williamg1

@jdb4


“you lose games fastest at quarterback and cornerback,”

-Rex Ryan

Brian Serviss
Brian Serviss

@Hanknaples @hitchhiker shut up already. If the Dolphins, Bucs were to say this you would think it is the most genius plan in the NFL. 


We get it. You hate everything and anything to do with the Jets 

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@williamg1 @jdb4

“you lose games fastest at quarterback and cornerback,”

Willie, haven't I been saying that all along???

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brendan @ Cang

Wouldn't that be considered  "Subtraction by Addition??

Cang
Cang

@Brendan @Hanknaples Pace wasn't gonna get a ton of 3rd down snaps anyway (if what I was hearing was correct)

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@jdb4 @hitchhiker 

" So incomplete passes don't count?"

Never said they didn't count jdb4...just said Sacks is the REAL $$$$$ move !!!

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brian Serviss @hitchhiker 

Now you're pulling a Brendan and insulting people when you can't respond intelligently?/

And just when I though Brendan was cleaning up his act with me and having one less belligerent poster!!

Disgruntled Jets Fan
Disgruntled Jets Fan

Incomplete passes <<<<<< sacks <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< interceptions (which are often created by pressure)

What I want to see are INTs.

hitchhiker
hitchhiker

@Hankphinsfan Dunbar also said sacks are the money move, so you are correct there, but wrong otherwise.

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brendan 

Simple math. 

Lets see..7.5

        -  10.5

         -------------

         = (-)  3.0

Brian Serviss
Brian Serviss

@jdb4 @Hanknaples @hitchhiker if the defense has an opportunity to sack a QB but instead it leads to an incomplete pass or a 1 yard pass, I don't think I'll be too angry that they didn't get the sack

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brian Serviss @jdb4 @hitchhiker 

I hope you never become a Players Agent, Mr Serviss!!!

Cang
Cang

@Hanknaples Lots of Calvin's sacks were "clean up" sacks forced by the DL. Pace's main role was to hold the edge and fill his lane. Babin plays a different position, where his role will be mostly to pin his ears back and get the ball. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples Oh, Babin had the Jets' DL to play with last season while he was on the Jags? 

Brian Serviss
Brian Serviss

@Hanknaples and remember that comment about you not liking people insulting you instead of actually bringing something intelligent to the convo..... Contradiction at its finest 

Brian Serviss
Brian Serviss

@Hanknaples and I really hope you never become a GM, especially for a team that I cheer for. I'll have teams filled with Gholstons and Pattersons 

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Cang @Hanknaples 

 What happens when they run to the weakside or the side opposite of Pace? Who is going to contain the run?

  Interested Jet

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Cang 

" Pace's main role was to hold the edge and fill his lane."

And that is why Calvin is doubly valuable !!!

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brendan 

You're right....totally different beast...Like I said, it's simple math....6 DT's 3 Rush LB's and only four can play 4-3 !!!


$64 question,,,who's going to cover the slot??

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brian Serviss 

Brian Serviss, 

I think you are outdoing yourself today. I already said Rex Ryan ruined any chance of Gholston having any recognition of being a solid player. This starting with Hard Knocks when he got together with Tannenbaum and starting hinting towards the bust label after he said infamously "I think his ' ' dropped". I think you remember that right Brian Serviss. What coach in their right mind would say that about THEIR player? It is because GHOLSTON WASN'T RYAN'S PLAYER!! The fans as blinded and without any backbone followed suit.  This followed Gholston throughout the season beginning on Monday night against the Ravens in 2010 when Mike Tirico mentioned as soon as Gholston made a tackle on special teams in the opening minutes of the game.


  Interested Jet

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples Wilson, same as it's been the past few years. 


And what you seem to be missing is something Rex commented on about the pass rush. He wants bodies, lots of them, so late in games they're throwing fresh players at a tired OL. Having too many players than you can fit on the field is a good thing, Hank. 

Disgruntled Jets Fan
Disgruntled Jets Fan

Gholston is solely responsible for ruining his career. He was given more chances here than his play deserved.

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brendan 

Seems to me Rexy is a little confused.....he thinks that quantity trumps quality........like I said "Buddy's Defensive Manual" is obsolete in today's NFL !!

Brian Serviss
Brian Serviss

@Brendan @Hanknaples unless the Jets do it. Than it's horrible. Hank logic

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brian Serviss 

Why not....doesn't our Fearless Leader uses it every day to tell us how much better of we are??

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Disgruntled Jets Fan 

 Not with the same line Coples is playing right now. Coples is simply playing out of position. Gholston had to beat out Bryan Thomas and Calvin Pace before holding the job down. That is pretty difficult to do! At the same he has to live to his first round status which all the fans famously put him down for, calling him a bust!! Had Gholston had Harrison next to him he would be destroying the other team's offensive tackles and quarterbacks.

  Interested Jet

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples Rex has never said those words. And they have quality and quality. They have both. That's the point and that's why their defensive front is one of the best units, top-to-bottom, in the entire league. 

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brian Serviss 

"..Than it's horrible. Hank logic"

I believe the correct word is THEN (conjunctive adverb used to connect ideas)!!

Sorry to correct you!!

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brian Serviss 

Mr serviss  It doesn't take a genius to figure ou that if the offense doesn't give you time to execute ...you can keep all your Elephants chained to their stools !!!

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brendan 

Look, this is what I keep hearing over and over but outside of MoWilk and snask I just don't see what all the fuss is about....but we'll see soon enough, right??

And like I said, what good is it to have all these ELEPHANTS when you are NOT given the time to use them ???

Remember, more and more QB's are getting rid of the ball in under 2.5 seconds!!

In todays' NFL (like the song goes).....You need coverage, you need lots and lots of coverage..!!!

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Disgruntled Jets Fan 

The defense was never complete. Mangini tried to work three defensive tackles in 2008 with Jenkins being the starter and he was hurt before he got the jets and then was injured throughout the season, then Mosley, and Pouha. Then two were left in 2009 and 2010 and when Jenkins went down everything slowed down. I think Cris Collingsworth and Al Michaels (one of them did)  said it during the 2011 season opener against the Cowboys the jets got worse at the defensive tackle position once Jenkins went down.  It affected the whole defense. Just as much as you and the other jets fans want to crucify him I am willing to defend him. Now tell me who is the bigger diehard fan.


  Interested Jet

Brian Serviss
Brian Serviss

@Hanknaples please tell me you are just discrediting Richardson's pass rush ability and not his ability as a defender as a whole

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brian Serviss 

Absolutely don't want to lose you but I suggest you follow my response to Brendan....thanks!!

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Disgruntled Jets Fann

 Come back to me when you have something to argue about and not complaining about making excuses.

  Interested Jet

Brian Serviss
Brian Serviss

@Hanknaples @Brian Serviss you are more like your favorite coach, Philbin. Thinks he can win when clearly he can't

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brian Serviss 

No comprede amigo....why did you bring up Philbin if you did NOT want to talk about him??? 

Brian Serviss
Brian Serviss

@Hanknaples @Brian Serviss because I was comparing your winning to Philbin's, minimal. Never said I wanted to talk Fish football, fish depth chart, fish 53 man roster etc etc