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Jason Babin signs with Jets

Jason Babin has signed a two-year deal with the Jets, according to his agency (Eastern, July 22). Reporter Kimberly Jones was first to report the signing (NFL, July 23).


July 24: Babin officially signed his deal with the Jets:

https://twitter.com/JasonBabin93/status/492373263038025728


The defensive end visited the Jets on Monday (Jones, July 23).

Babin played in 16 games with the Jaguars last season, racking up 7.5 sacks and 31 tackles. He led the Jags in sacks.

The 34-year-old has played in 130 games for six different teams in his career, compiling 62.5 sacks and 269 tackles.


More: Scouting Jason Babin




239 comments
Robert Epperly
Robert Epperly

Great signing....welcome Jason, last year 19 QB hurries and 7.5 sacks, should have been 9.5 but robbed by refs, while being DOUBLE TEAMED...my new favorite player, a kickbutt dude..

Joseph Garofola
Joseph Garofola

Pff said that Babin was the most underrated DE in the league last year.

This guy is easily capable of leading the league in QB sacks. He also creates a lot of turnovers when he's in the opposing teams back field.

Joseph Garofola
Joseph Garofola

I have Babin doubling his sacks from last year. He easily gets 15 sacks or more on this D line. The Jets are definitely getting ready for a super bowl run.

marcus81
marcus81

Babin could be a passing situation player like Abraham was for the Falcons the last few years he was there, and Patsies don't get their paws on him

Cooper12
Cooper12

8th time he is changing teams. 8th time! I know this site is strictly Pom Pom waving, but I'm skeptical.

rexryguy
rexryguy

very good signing, at very least we got deeper on the defensive line

Monty
Monty

This is a great move.. they're going for it. You dont sign Babin if you dont think youve got a shot at winning your division.. I like thier confidence.. 



Wilkershakes
Wilkershakes

Really good signing.  Isn't 7.5 sacks for the Jags equal to 21.3 on the Jets team?  At least, that's how the calculator converted it.    

jdb4
jdb4

Championship!

williamg1
williamg1

Who the hell does the opposing teams' offensive lines double team? 

upstater
upstater

I suspect this move became necessary when the league decided to cut down on defensive holding.

Brian Liotta
Brian Liotta

Just having Babin on the field will make the offense be concerned. He will open up opportunities for the other guys just from reputation.  If they don't assign an OL to him, he will go right through TEs and RBs.  Excellent signing.

harold
harold

Good move for the Jets...You can never have enough Pass Rushers!!

Paul Samuels
Paul Samuels

He is 34, how much more does he have left? He was cut twice this off season by the Jags. Is he just there to ramp up the competition for the young guys? 

Brian Serviss
Brian Serviss

@Cooper12 why do people try to correlate someones skill with how many teams he's been on? Revis has been on 3 teams in 3 years, is he no longer good? Deion Sanders played for 5 teams, is he no longer one of the best CBs to play the game? 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Cooper12 "I know this site is strictly Pom Pom waving"


What on earth gives you that idea?


It's a low level move for a journeyman who has been pretty productive over the last few seasons.  It's a low risk move and if it doesn't work out it's not like the whole season is riding on it, after all, he wasn't even on the team as recently as yesterday.

a57se
a57se

@Monty 

Is that why the Jaguars claimed him in 2012?

SackDance99
SackDance99

@Wilkershakes Because the Jets are impossible to run on, Babin will have more opportunities for sacks together with better players in front of him.  Last season, teams passed @ 58% of the time against the Jets and, with any help from the offense, that figure could go well over 60%.  Teams passed 51% of the time against the Jags because of their poor run defense.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@williamg1

If they were smart, the OL would doubleteam Dee Milliner, because by doubling Milliner, you counteract Damon Harrison's constant creation of favorable matchups for the CB#1 and thus neutralize Harrison's ability to allow Milliner's ability to play shutdown CB on an island thanks to Harrison's play up front.


Sincerely,

Interested Jet

tsjc68
tsjc68

@gbrownn

Keep in mind that that particular PFF article is one about fantasy football, not about any of their actual PFF evals or signature stats.


They're focusing on what defensive players accumulate fantasy points (sacks, INTs, tackles) instead of their usual approach of measuring things like graded plays, pass rush pressure productivity, etc.


(PFF does like Babin, sure, but they gave him an overall negative grade for 2013.)

SackDance99
SackDance99

@Paul Samuels It's very hard to project what guys can do in their 30s.  Let's assume Babin is a designated pass rusher.  A good historical comparable could be Kevin Greene, who had 52 sacks from age 34-37, and each season had double digits.  Other good pass rushers who produced well into their 30s are Chris Doleman, Reggie White, Bruce Smith, and Rickey Jackson.  IMO, health is the big issue because Babin was an 18 sack guy...anytime you average more than a sack per game for a season, you're an elite pass rusher.  If he's healthy and used properly, Babin could be very productive for up to 2-3 more seasons, like Greene, who never had as many as 18 sacks in a season during his illustrious career.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Paul Samuels

He is 34, how much more does he have left? 


For the low price of what's assuredly a low-money, largely non-guaranteed 2yr deal + (probably) Lowell Rose's roster spot, we're about to find out.  A worthy tradeoff for Babin's upside, which even at 34 produced solid pressure last year for the Eagles and Jaguars.  And all we need him to "have left" is a few good passrush snaps per game, he's not a starter.


He was cut twice this off season by the Jags. 


Who are rebuilding and who spent lavishly to replace his production with younger, more long-term solutions this offseason, so them giving him the boot makes sense, for them.  Chris Johnson was cut this offseason by the Titans; doesn't mean Chris Johnson can no longer be a productive and useful player in the right situation.


Is he just there to ramp up the competition for the young guys? 


That, and provide good production in subpackages while we let those young guys marinate, learn the system, and get healthy.

Brendan
Brendan

@Paul Samuels Not true. He voided his final two years to become a FA before resigning with the Jags, who paid him $500k to do nothing for them. 


He has plenty left as a pass rusher, which is why they signed him. He's probably the 2nd best edge rusher on the team right now, if not the best.

williamg1
williamg1

@Paul Samuels He's not a necessity. He's a luxury. Another toy for Rex. And he costs nothing. 

marcus81
marcus81

@a57se @Monty teams with the worst records have the first chance to sign released players, if they go unsigned a team with a good record can pick up that player

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Monty They claimed him at the end of 2012 when they were already out of contention, so by definition, no.  However, maybe at the time they had visions of him turning them into a contender for the following season for which he was still under contract.

Monty
Monty

@a57se @Monty let me rephrase for you because you have nothing better to do than police everyone 


well run teams dont sign Babin if you dont think youve got a shot at winning your division.


Now go read a book or something. Enjoy the day 

Bent
Bent moderator

@SackDance99 @Wilkershakes Ah, but if Babin comes in and plays the run poorly, then the Jets will become easier to run on!

jsadolph
jsadolph

@tsjc68 @williamg1 

That pretty much sums it up.  Now we won't make the playoffs, you just gave away the secret to beat the Jets this year.

gbrownn
gbrownn

Yeah im pretty sure he grades out well as pass rusher , not so well as a run defender. Last year they gave him a top 9 pass rush grade, FWIW

Denzil Ludford
Denzil Ludford

He'll be playing around possible 3 to 4 guys who are unblock able.

jimjets
jimjets

@Brendan @Paul Samuels well said Brendan. I just found out an I'm totally jazzed about this.  If this guy gives us what he had last year? 7, 8 sacks, hurrying qb's AND it helps our back end. Awesome siging IZZY!

Paul Samuels
Paul Samuels

@Brendan @Paul Samuels Okay, that makes me feel a bit better about the signing. I guess it's not that much money, and could have a nice payoff. 

tsjc68
tsjc68

@gbrownn

Correct.


And yes, PFF would probably continue to love Babin as an IDP fantasy football player, as Rex + all our defensive talent should allow Babin or Barnes (or both) to rack up some gaudy sack totals.

Brendan
Brendan

@tsjc68 I once spent an entire happy hour at DJai's in Belmar screaming "WHAT TRIBE ARE YOU IN?" at meatheads with massive tribal tattoos. 

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Paul Samuels @tsjc68

As Brendan noted above, he was only cut once.  He voided his deal to become a FA, then resigned with the Jags, then they cut him after acquiring other LEO options (notably Chris Clemons).


It's similar to the Drew Stanton situation with us, where he signed here with the expectation that he'd be the backup and then we changed the equation by acquiring Tim Tebow, and he asked out.


I wouldn't be shocked to discover that Babin asked out of Jacksonville, prompting the SINGLE release of him from his contract.

Denzil Ludford
Denzil Ludford

Interested in seeing what Jermaine Cunningham brings to the table.

Denzil Ludford
Denzil Ludford

Meaning he should have a productive sack season barring injury. Calvin Pace had 10 sacks & he's a edge setter. Imagine what Babin will get against TE's & RB's.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se The translation being Babin will be playing around 3-4 players who are unblockable (Coples, Wilkerson, Richardson, Barnes), which should help his value. 


Happy? 

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Brendan @tsjc68

I used to joke all the time that the Chinese characters on Marcus Camby's shoulder were Chinese for "shoulder".

tsjc68
tsjc68

@SackDance99 @Paul Samuels @tsjc68

Also a valid point.


I mean, just three years after drafting Blaine Gabbert in the top 10, they drafted Blake Bortles in the top 3.


They traded away Eugene Monroe for two Day 3 picks to clear a path for Luke Joeckel.


Ugh.

Rudibager
Rudibager

@Disgruntled Jets Fan @Brendan @tsjc68 Bar A is not worse than DJais....  Neither are worse than Headliners.


Bar A is actually awesome until late night when it's completely packed (which is impressive for how gigantic it is).

Brendan
Brendan

@tsjc68 My friend (who is Asian, but not Chinese) has a game he plays where he finds people with Chinese tattoos and asks them with a worried look "can you read Chinese?" And when the person inevitably says no, he responds with "oh....that's probably for the best, then." 


As someone with tattoos with meaning, I find it hilarious that people tattoo stuff on their bodies without knowing what it means first. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se ....seriously? 


You were one of the people portraying this as a miss for the Jets. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Only if you change yours to "I'm a miserable curmudgeon." 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Yes, you certainly did. Top choice was the guy who still isn't a GM anywhere (Tom Gamble) and you made a point to say the Jets let "another" GM candidate get away when Caldwell took the Jags job. You even used it to try to make it seem like the Jags job was more attractive than the Jets' vacancy.