NCAA Football: Senior Bowl

Boyd adjusting to Jets ‘totally different offense

Jets sixth-round draft pick QB Tajh Boyd has stated that adjusting to an NFL offense is no small feat.

“I’ve got a lot of work to do as far as me understanding,” Boyd told Randy Lange of NewYorkJets.com.

“Just the type of offense is totally different … you’re running a true West Coast offense and working with Coach Mornhinweg, who’s in the same class as Mike Holmgren, Bill Walsh and all those guys.”

During his time at Clemson, Boyd didn’t take snaps from center in Clemon’s pistol / read-option offense and so it makes sense why there’s many specific things that will take time and repetition for the rookie from Clemson.

“Everything’s pretty precise, whether it’s the footwork or the read. Once you start to look at the plays and the concepts and why they’re built like that, you start to understand why everything is so precise,” Boyd said.  “You want to go out there, you can’t be a perfectionist, but at the same time that’s who I am naturally. So you get to the point where you just want to get everything … it takes time. I’ve got to understand that, to be patient a little bit. But I’m doing everything I can so that I’m ready and I’m confident when I go on the field.”

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

Boyd will have Rex Ryan pulling for him (TJB, May 10) because Rex was such a champion to bring Boyd in in the first place during the lead up to the draft.

Boyd will be competing with Matt Simms for the third quarterback spot.  Simms saw his star dim slightly last year after he played well in the preseason, but struggled to move the offense for the Jets in mop-up duty for Geno Smith.  After battling Matt Simms for the third spot, tackling the team’s backup role would be the plan for 2015 – and seems likely if the team can afford Boyd the time to dig in.  Boyd’s known as a good leader, smart, meticulous and with some physical gifts … but for him it all hinges on how well he can demonstrate his early learning during camp.

Boyd’s college offense had the benefit of two excellent receivers and a lot of bubble screens and simple option type reads.  While Marty Morhinweg’s offense does contain some of those elements, it’s much more a modernized West Coast as Boyd explains.  It’s going to take him time.

SportsOnEarth’s Mike Tanier wrote an excellent article about Tajh Boyd and the right landing spot for him in the lead up to the draft.  Tanier thought it would be best for Boyd to latch on with a strong offensive coaching staff with a team that was looking to groom a long-term backup.

Maybe more than anything, this takes us inside the head of where Geno Smith was a year ago.  Smith had to make an adjustment to Mornhinweg’s offense and it took him time, as we saw from his play on the field last year.  Also there is the element of perfectionism.  During his play last fall, Geno’s concern for making a mistake might have caused hesitation and thus made it harder for him.  The hope is is that the game will slow down more for Smith (and for Boyd) with more practice and study.

 




15 comments
kniff
kniff

Glad to have Boyd, as we should always have some new blood at QB,  but I'm tellin' ya' Matt Simms should be taking at least some snaps with the first team, to see how he's looking with the new receivers...Hey, I haven't written him off yet, by any means... What if he looks sharper than Vick or Geno one kooky day? Shouldn't he get taken a little more seriously?


with strong blocking and ramped up WR corps, this kid might just be a starter, and not just "Phil's kid"


We seem to all agree Geno deserves the benefit of the doubt after last years arsenal, why not Simms??

tsjc68
tsjc68

@kniff

We seem to all agree Geno deserves the benefit of the doubt after last years arsenal, why not Simms??


Because at least Geno has a track record of great QB play in games that actually count and matter in college.  Simms doesn't have that.


If you put all the gametape from all the games (HS, college, preseason pros, regular season pros) from Geno Smith and Matt Simms side-by-side there's just acres more footage of Geno doing good things than Simms doing good things (and acres more footage of Simms doing bad things than Geno doing bad things).


Simms has value as an upside play thanks to his armstrength, but he's just not in Geno's class as a developmental QB and has a long way to go to equal him.  We can give Geno a higher confidence rating based on past success.  Simms's moments of brilliance are fewer and further between.  They're more dissimilar than similar.


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TL:DR version:

Q: We seem to all agree Geno deserves the benefit of the doubt after last years arsenal, why not Simms??

A: Because last year's arsenal was basically the first time ever that Geno played poorly for a long stretch of time, raising the likelihood that it was just an adjustment period.  It wasn't the first time that Simms ever played poorly, though; thus, he gets a smaller benefit of the doubt.

bradysucks
bradysucks

@tsjc68 @kniff


whatever tsjc68...


So now you're gonna talk about Geno's record of winning games in college after saying for years that college production is irrelevant (see Tebow) to the pro game


Simms certainly has an NFL arm and if he learns the offense why not let him compete? It isn't as though Geno has cemented his position as the team's future QB......For all we know Geno will be benched early in the season.....


Nobody knows

rstysanchz
rstysanchz

@tsjc68 didnt the university of tenn. drop chris simms for tyler bray ?

tsjc68
tsjc68

@bradysucks

Let's recap.


Kniff: Why doesn't Simms get the benefit of the doubt that Geno gets?

Me: Because when you look at Geno's college GAMETAPE, it looks much better than Simms's GAMETAPE.  There's more evidence from the GAMETAPE of Geno doing good things in GAMES than Simms doing good things in GAMES.  Geno's GAMETAPE indicates good pro quarterbacking skills, something that Simms's GAMETAPE does not indicate.  That's why they're valued differently as NFL prospects, BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEIR GAMETAPES.

Bradysucks: Yeah, but Tim Tebow won a lot of college games and had great stats.


... aaaaaaaaaaand, SCENE!!!!

Bent
Bent moderator

@tsjc68 No he didn't!


He did unseat Matt Simms though.

bradysucks
bradysucks

@tsjc68 @bradysucks



I just find it amusing watching you argue about Turnover Tina (aka Geno) being somebody who isn't extremely vulnerable to losing his job!! I agree with Kniff.....let Simms and Vick compete with Geno.....The best guy should play.....Nobody cares about their college tape....We care about the NFL tape


Geno is on thin  ice - luckily he has Stephen Hill and Clyde Gates to throw to still


(sarcasm font)

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Bent @tsjc68

We should bring in Deirdre Simms for a tryout, see what her arm looks like.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@bradysucks @tsjc68

Number of times here today where I said "Geno Smith isn't in danger of losing his job": zero


bradysucks
bradysucks

@tsjc68 @bradysucks


I happen to like Geno......but I would love a Seattle style competition for the QB job.....I feel like Russell Wilson doesn't even get a chance to start on most other NFL teams......but the Seahawks were all about playing the guy who had the best NFL tape and they gave Wilson a fair opportunity.....


Nothing I've seen from Geno makes me think he is better than Vick or Simms.......I'd love to see a TRUE open competition

tsjc68
tsjc68

@bradysucks @tsjc68

We had a Seattle-style competition for the job.


It happened last year.  Matt Simms lost the competition.  He's done nothing in the intervening year to un-do that loss.  The competition is now partially closed (to him, at least).  He's now competing for the right to re-open the competition, which is how every single non-insane football organization handles competitions.


You want a fully open competition between the four QBs on roster?  Tough nuts.  Fully open competitions are stupid, wasteful, and counterproductive.  Tailored, intelligent, limited competitions are much smarter ways to handle things.


Geno is competing with Vick (as he should be).  Simms is competing with Boyd (as he should be).  A tiered competition is utterly appropriate, given what we can actually expect from those four players given their individual histories and bodies of work.


This is how non-insane teams handle things (including the Seahawks, who had a PARTIALLY CLOSED competition with Flynn entrenched as the nominal starter until Russell Wilson FORCED THE CLOSED COMPETITION OPEN by outplaying Flynn.  If Matt Simms starts looking like Russell Wilson, don't worry, the competition will reopen quickly.)


Nothing I've seen from Geno makes me think he is better than Vick or Simms...


Let's tackle this in two parts:


VICK: Nothing I've seen from Geno makes me think he's better than Vick either, I'll agree with that.  What I've seen from each of them makes them about equal at this point, TBH.


The coaches have seen things in practices that I haven't seen that indicate that Geno is better than Vick, though, so I'm deferring to them here.


SIMMS: If "nothing you've seen from Geno makes you think he's better than Simms", then you haven't been paying attention.  Literally everything we've ever seen from Geno and Simms confirms that Geno is much better than Simms.


Literally everything.

bradysucks
bradysucks

@tsjc68 @bradysucks



Geno had a stretch of some of the worst QB play EVER in NFL history.......but the Jets stuck with him and he looked better at the end of the year....


We haven't seen Simms in enough games to know what he is yet.....He has a great arm and he was very good in pre-season last year when given the opportunity....His dad was a very good NFL QB which does count for something as far as I am concerned......I want to see more of Matt Simms....


Vick to me is clearly better than Geno but I understand why he won't play......He's on a ONE year contract and the Jets probably don't see the guy who tortures dogs as the future face of their franchise......By the way, I have forgiven Vick - He has to settle with GOD at some point.....but I think fans should give Vick a chance and support him 100%. Vick did the crime and served his time and should be forgiven

tsjc68
tsjc68

@bradysucks

We haven't seen Simms in enough games to know what he is yet...


You're right.


What we have seen, though, is enough of both Geno and Simms in enough games (both pro and college) to know that the likelihood that Simms is better than Geno is slim.


Until Simms shows more in practice to disabuse us of that notion, Geno can, will, and should get more chances to right his ship before we try  to give Matt Simms an opportunity to prove that we're wrong about him not being as good.


This is the way professional football works.


I want to see more of Matt Simms...


And perhaps you'll get your chance.  That chance will only come after we've given Geno Smith more opportunity to prove that he's not the answer, though, because Geno Smith's body of work up until now indicates that he's PROBABLY better than Matt Simms, so we can, will, and should confirm whether this is true or false before we "see more of Matt Simms".


This is the way professional football works.


College football too, btw.  Matt Simms the prep QB had shown more than Tyler Bray the prep QB, so Simms started over him until Simms proved unworthy of retaining the benefit of the doubt and Bray was given his shot.


If Geno Smith sucks, eventually he'll be benched and Simms will have a shot. 


The date when we're ready to make that move is "not right now".

bklyndude
bklyndude

@tsjc68 @bradysucks

All college football players are evaluated thoroughly coming out of college,  especially the QB's with strong arms.  Matt Simms went undrafted in 2012 and was able to impress  the coaching staff to beat out Greg McElroy for the third string job last year.   

He did show a strong NFL arm and will get a chance to compete for a spot again this year with Tajh Boyd which could turn into a very interesting battle.  I could see Simms on the team again this year with Boyd going to the practice squad and maybe making the team next year.  

Simms can be a backup on a lot of teams because of his arm.  If given an opportunity to play he needs to make the most of any opportunity to change the opinions of NFL evaluators who formed their opinions on how high of a ceiling he has.