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Buzz: Coach Rex Ryan not on the hot seat

Will Rex’s future be determined by whether the Jets can make the playoffs this season? While many (myself included) have speculated as such, Kristian Dyer of Metro New York reports that Ryan’s future is not necessarily tied to getting into the postseason.

But Metro New York has learned it isn’t “postseason or bust” for Ryan this year if he wants to extend his stay in New York.

Speaking on the condition of anonymity, a team source with knowledge of the situation said Ryan “isn’t on any hot seat” this season, despite the fact his Jets haven’t had a winning record the past three seasons let alone made the playoffs.

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“Rex isn’t on any hot seat and there is no playoff mandate even though he thinks and management thinks we can make the playoffs. That’s the goal every year,” the source told Metro. “But it isn’t postseason or bust for him. There are a lot of factors that go into it.”

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

To the source’s point, there are a lot of factors and to ignore Ryan’s obvious defensive talent, his players devotion to him and the team’s refusal to give up even when the playoffs seemed out of reach. But sooner or later the Jets have to get back to the playoffs and 2013 marked the third straight season that the Jets were unable to reach the playoffs.

For as much flak as the Jets get about their talent level, the team is much improved offensively and the way the head coach, offensive coordinator and general manager are attending pro days, looks to be getting better within the month at the wide receiver position.

Jets are piece or two away in the secondary from a top defense and their offense projects to be much better. The talent level on this team is on the rise, despite the moves they didn’t make in free agency. While Ryan’s future might not be held hostage by making the playoffs, it’s hard not to think that his future won’t be hurt by it.




67 comments
boozer
boozer

Look! It's a floating head coach!

jaym
jaym

FIRE REX!!!!

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

I don't think ever was on a hot seat other than in the words of made up articles on the subject.

twin
twin

REX isn't going anywhere! Next article.

Wilkershakes
Wilkershakes

Another point is it all depends on the QB.  All the rest is almost irrelevant.  There's only so much you can put on a HC if they the QB play is below average or disastrous.  

Wilkershakes
Wilkershakes

This is the situation for most coaches in the NFL.  Not on a  'hot seat' unless the team self destructs.  I don't put anything into this.  

chuco
chuco

Why would he be on the hot seat he always coach his but off and it's not t his fault he didn't have any playmakers and a horrible salary cap and so so scouts

dabronx
dabronx

Rex is a good coach and gets allot out of his players. The Jets would be silly to let him go. I'm not crazy about Woody but I like the patience and belief he has shown towards Rex. Rex is a winner and seems to be evolving as a head coach.

MS
MS

Rex is a much better HEAD coach now than when he first got here. In fact, I'd argue last season was a more impressive coaching job than the first two AFC Championship teams (from a coaching perspective). His outrageous personality and game time decision making has drastically improved. 


Over the years talent worsened on offense and arguably on defense, yet Rex has established a pretty strong (young) core to take us to the next level going forward.  He's also had to deal with Rookie QBs that were masked by good defense and probably the most annoying media in the league. Its not an easy job...

davem
davem

If u wanted be positive, you could say Rex has only had 1 losing season during his entire tenure.... Or you could always go the other way and say he hasn't had a winning record in 3 years. Glass half full vs half empty

williamg1
williamg1

Was this a message to Rex or the fans?

funkymonk
funkymonk

Good. Rex is a great coach, I love the personality he imbued into the team, and I hope he's the HC of NYJ for a long long time. He's done more with less than any coach in the past 5 years, except maybe for Arians with the Cardinals last year (he deserved Coach of the Year more than Rivera did, IMO).


Okay, off topic. I'm convinced the Jets will be wheeling and dealing in this year's draft, even if that's not Idzik's typical MO. We have 12 draft picks; there is no chance of 12 rookies making our final roster, so using all of those picks seems like a waste. The Idzikian way to deal with it would be to trade for future picks (ie give up one of our 4th for a 3rd next year, or 6th for a 5th, etc), but I can also see him moving up in pretty much any round to target a specific player.


NYCPEinGermany
NYCPEinGermany

I'd imagine his future will be hurt by not making the playoffs if the team falls apart on him, but if they give good effort throughout the year and don't make it simply because they don't quite have the talent - or more likely, are besieged by injuries - then I doubt it makes much difference.

Brian
Brian

Every team in the league believes they are much improved during the off season. Every team in the league is going to be permitted to draft players this year. And as we know, not every team in the league will see results, in fact, many will get worse. Could that be the Jets? We shall see.

Brian
Brian

Of course he's on the hotseat. How can he not be? The objective is to win the SB. There are only 2 coaches, Lewis and Smith, that have been around longer than Rex without winning the SB. Harbaugh, McCarthy, Belichek, Payton, Couglin and Tomlin have all been around longer, but they have rings (some multiple). It's a results rings. Time for Rex to back up those SB guarantees or be gone.

Ceifus Hornswoggle
Ceifus Hornswoggle

I'm more afraid of Rex leaving than Rex getting fired.  Everyone knows that dominate CBs are what makes Ryan's defense work.  And without a solid defense, this team is 4-12 at best.  We haven't had an offense that can consistently score more than 14 points a game in half a decade.  I can't imagine Rex wanting to stick around much longer if the rest of the front office is untalented.  And I don't see anyone throwing their support being the GM.  I think we're all being patient with him, but deep down, we all know he's a mistake.

John Speak
John Speak

Seriously. Your name must match your reality. Could also be that you're a trolling fan of dead fish, I mean the Dolphins

Bytor
Bytor

@Wilkershakes  I've been beating this drum as well. It always comes down to the QB. I'd hate to be in Cincy's shoes right now. How bold would it be for them to tell Dalton to take a hike when his contract expires. 


"Sorry son, you're decidedly average and we don't feel like paying you $15MM/year. Buh bye."

Bytor
Bytor

@dabronx  If Rex Ryan ever gets fired or leaves, he'd have 10 head coaching jobs lined up as soon as he leaves Florham Park grounds. 

a57se
a57se

@davem  

If the Glass is Half empty or half full I say the darn glass is just too big.

twin
twin

@funkymonk I agree with the wheeling & dealing!!!!!!!!! CANT WAIT.......

Hoz
Hoz

@Hanknaples  His defense will be better if his offense stop going 3 & out all game, I'm just saying.

maynard
maynard

@Ceifus Hornswoggle That's ridiculous to say hes a mistake. he has been here one year and the team has improved. He has solved our cap problem and we have money. What the hell else did you expect him to do . we have 12 draft picks, we got the top FA Wr, top FA QB, we replaced out RT even up, resigned important  vets and we have money to spend, to sign long term young stars, add FA's after the draft and camp cuts, and money to spend next year to fill holes we didn't through the draft.  Tha tis not a mistake hat is an A+ I yr  report card


Wilkershakes
Wilkershakes

@Hanknaples   Yes, "all THREE phases (Offense, Defense and Spec. Teams) must play as ONE", this makes perfect sense.  I'm sold.  


FIRE REX!

Wilkershakes
Wilkershakes

@Bytor @Wilkershakes   And probably would be a wise decision...that depends on who the next guy is.  It's weird to say this but Mike Brown is saying the right things so far. 



WW85
WW85

@Bytor He might get a job in the same complex. 

Zartan
Zartan

Dude did not go out and spend money on the FAs ppl wanted, boo whoo.

I love that Idzick got rid of the circus label (in less than a year).dude is about football and not making headlines.

I was a Sanchez backer and it pissed me off listening to fans bash him. Sanchez has superstar talent but he lacks the leadership to run the offense (keep everyone in line), therefore he fail in NY.

Ceifus Hornswoggle
Ceifus Hornswoggle

@NYCPEinGermany @Ceifus Hornswoggle 

Knowledge is related to the past; I'm talking about intuition and gut instinct.  I wonder if there's anyone here who feels much confidence in the man.  And look at his past - he hasn't lasted anymore than 4-5 years at any position he's taken.  I think he's riding on his father's coattails more than anything.  He's yet to prove that he can guide an organization.

Bytor
Bytor

@WW85 @Bytor  Hah, never thought of that. The only thing worse would be if he got the head coaching job in New En.....I can't even go there. 


Really, how would the Lions not fire their current coach on the spot and bring Rex aboard without an interview.

maynard
maynard

@Hanknaples @Bytor Have you ever considered being quiet?  His defense has suffered primarily from the offenses inability to mount drives and the horrible negative take away ratio we have suffered due to our offense and inability to sustain rives and low time of posession There is a direct correlation:

    Defense rank                         Giveaway'takeaway rank             time of possession rank

2013      11                                                 30                                          21

2012        7                                                  29                                         18

2011         5                                                  20                                         9

2010        3                                                    7                                          8

2009        1                                                   17                                         9



2009 was also a year when we had clicking on all cylinders in DB, LB and DL  with a strong running game, but if you look at the above, the longer teams are on the field on defenses and due to 3 and outs the worse stats loojk , UNLESS theyb are a really good defenses with a great coach



a57se
a57se

@Hanknaples  

Hank, Tom Landry was the 'father of the modern defense' in the NFL. Buddy invented the 46 defense. lombardi was a terrific coach but he was not an innovator...he just worked his guys harder then most and demanded perfection....so did Landry.

a57se
a57se

@Hanknaples  

Tom Landry and Buddy Ryan were better defensive coaches.....dick LeBeau is pretty darn good as well and Rexy is pretty high on that list too....

Bytor
Bytor

@Hanknaples @Bytor  Wow your own island huh? Will it have an internet connection? 


More importantly, will you be able to cover a #1 reveiver?...:)


Aaaaand we better all be invited. BTW, I like my Ketel One martinis slightly dirty with 3 olives.

a57se
a57se

@Hanknaples  

Actually every team has a HC, a DC an OC and a ST Coach.....so there are three coaches who run the three phases of the game plus the head Coach...you should know this already Hankie!

Bytor
Bytor

@Hanknaples @Bytor  Rex doesn't draft the players, the GM does. He may have some input, but the GM pulls the trigger.


Aaaand when the D gets statistically better this year will you come back here and say he's wonderful?


Aaaand when the O becomes statistically better will you come back here and say he's wonderful?


Aaaand will you be chock full of excuses when the Jets finish ahead of the Dolphins yet again?

Bytor
Bytor

@Hanknaples  Every team has approximately 18 coaches. 


What fantasy land One Identity are you talking about?


Did you ever consider that Rex did a pretty good job considering the players he's had and the circumstances?


Oh and by the way, what's the identity of that South Beach team?  

boomer
boomer

@Ceifus Hornswoggle @NYCPEinGermany  Yea, I do.  He hasn't lasted more than a few years in any one spot because he kept getting offered positions of increasing importance because. get this, NFL ownership thought he was doing a good job.


Any you know what happened at the places he went?  The teams won and they won a lot.  Tampa Bay, Arizona, Seattle ..  all of those franchises won consistently when he was there and 2 of them won Super Bowls with rosters he helped build.


a57se
a57se

@Hanknaples @Wilkershakes 

So the pick sixes thrown by our QB count against the defense?

Nor the fumbles taken back for scores?