Buzz: ESPN’s reports Rex likely to return

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

Today, Adam Schefter reported for ESPN that from some conversations with two unnamed sources characterized as one “well-placed NFL executive” and one “well-connected source” that he believes Rex Ryan will return in 2014 as the team’s head coach. 

From ESPN:

Based on conversations [Schefter] has had, one well-placed NFL executive said he believes Ryan will be back despite speculation that the coach would be fired after this season. Another well-connected source told ESPN that the atmosphere surrounding Ryan’s status has turned from negative to positive.

Although ….

What’s unclear is whether Ryan will enter next season on the last year of his contract or whether the Jets will give him an extension, sources said. Ryan would prefer an extension.

With a new general manager in 2013 and little track record for the type of decisions he and Woody make jointly, it’s hard to know how this situation has truly played out.  We’ll find out Monday, but can we assume Ryan is safe now?

Not two months ago, Idzik called Rex “our leader” but declined to talk about the future.  Woody was said to be “happy” with how the team was doing going into the Raiders game, but “not happy” with the team coming off their loss to the Panthers. Are these just still lives that don’t tell the moving story?

Public perception of what is going on behind closed doors might be fluid when it comes to the Jets and their fifth year head coach, but it is fair to wonder if too much has been read into this whole season.  Woody asked fans to be “patient” with the team back in the spring, and while Woody likes Ryan, there were some reports back last January about whether Woody was truly as adoring of Rex has he had been made out.  Has the media and public been reading too much into the whole season?

Our read on Ryan’s status with Woody Johnson coming off the 2012 post-season presser was that there was one main thing that Rex needed to demonstrate to Johnson.  In this hangover season, Woody wanted to see Rex Ryan learn from his mistakes.  Could Ryan not bite off more than he and the team could chew? Could he assess where he was deficient and find folks to put around him that would help the whole group succeed?  While a potential 8-8 season might not be considered a rip-roaring success, it has to be taken into consideration with this team and this offensive talent.  Also, the improvement from Geno Smith in the last three games has to be taken into account as well.  The defense hasn’t been as exposed as it was back in that Bills/Dolphins stretch.

Rex has done commendably with a team that’s issues started at the quarterback spot.  Fans seem to be in favor of keeping Rex. Idzik and Ryan have gotten on well this season.  So what would the use be of letting go of Rex, maybe a year too early? Ostensibly, there aren’t 31 better head coaches in the league. So why judge the coach and whether he’s reformed his ways on the merits of a roster that has talent issues when that can be largely upgraded in 2014? We keep coming back to that January 2013 presser Woody and Rex did.

But that was before Idzik. If the issue for John Idzik is that he wants someone he can control, then I still don’t see how Ryan isn’t already that person. If there are other grounds, then let’s hear those Woody & John.

There still might be a number of coaching changes below Rex that John Idzik has his hand in come the offseason, but at least for 2014 we’re not convinced that the removal of Rex Ryan should be one of them.




102 comments
marcus81
marcus81

ok let's keep Rex for another year with an option to extend him, BUT draft offense this year coming up and sign FA 's that can help the receiving game and add another O line man to allow Winters to improve his game before he starts again, if Jets do not improve the offense they will not be worth watching, it will be the same nightmare of an offense again. Jets should use the first 3-4 rounds on offense and let Rex get the later round defensive players and special teamers with the later rounds.

kevino
kevino

While this is good news on the surface, I'm not ready to discount the team making Rex coach without an extension or wanting to make changes in Rex's staff. Things they know Rex will not agree to, That way if Rex were to leave, they wouldn't look like the bad guys. They know it would be bad PR to fire a popular head coach.

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

Time for 40 winks. Tomorrow we kick Mr. Magoo and his teams arse in! 

McGeorge
McGeorge

>In this hangover season, Woody wanted to see Rex Ryan learn from his mistakes


I don't think he has.  But the Jets real problems are lack of personnel.  Get some receivers, a left guard, a safety, and a line backer,  and then we'll see how Rex does.


One of the beefs I have with Rex is the penalties.  That's coaching.


I'm not sold on him as a developmental coach either.


But he is a great defensive coach.  A lesser defensive coach would have not won as many games.

mustang66
mustang66

the Jets should be able to put very good team on the field next year. They have 12 draft picks that they can use or even trade some plus they have in excess of 40 million dollars in cap room. they should have no problem getting a couple of receivers, a lineman, and some DBs

to add to the core. keep the continuity with Rex and Marty and let's see what they can do with some skill players and a defensive backfield.

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

Looks like we can hit the double tomorrow, a win and knocking the phins out, and word that Rex will return!

John Ledo
John Ledo

question is does rex want to come back..ok ok let me esplain...rex might look at that schedule for next year and say to himself darn with this offense no way am I beating the lions, packers, pats twice, Broncos,  chargers, bears, ravens...I might be gone next year anyway. Getting a top notch qb is a crap shoot and who knows what Geno will do in 2014. You cant sell sanchez again to the fans. Now lets say the lions come knocking and give rex certainty that they would hire him...does Rex say listen to a team with a much better offense and a very good front line defense or does he decide to stick it out with just a band aid extension? Could be a situation where idzik trades rex to the lions ala herm to the chiefs. 


Just playing devils advocate

mustang66
mustang66

I have yet to see anybody mention that Rex Ryan is ONLY coach in jets history to have a winning record

bob
bob

Ok then so I guess where gonna play football tomorrow every things good  everybody happy now...that's good. 

here2win
here2win

So I was at the pinstripe bowl today and Brandon Colemen looks like Braylon Edwards but only taller almost like Plaxico Burress but faster, and if he had a half decent QB throwing him the football he be a sure fire top 20 prospect. When the ball is thrown to him it almost seems unfair, I for the life of me can't understand why the Scarlet Knights don't throw to him more often they had a goal to go situation today and they took him off the feild, maybe they were trying to make ND think they were going to run but they throw a pass. Didn't make sense to me tho.

The Jets need this guy so badly just because, the WR class is as good as its been in years and if the team can come away with 2 WR and 2 TE's it's a step in the right direction. Im not forgetting about the guys the Jets have stashed away like Dwight Jones and Marcus Davis tho.Can anyone tell me if the Jets have had a offensive skilled player make the pro bowl since Curtis Martin? And I don't mean as an alternate..... Speaking of alternate the fact that Mohammed Wilkerson is an alternate for the Pro bowl is a joke.

I will wait for the official word on Rex coming back as opposed to these reports today, I believe this site reported or had got word that Seahawks OC and or their DC was in line to be the Jets next HC, what happen to that?

testiculon
testiculon

Continuity is huge, he backed down from boastful Rex this year and really seemed more like a real manager.   Let's see what he can do with an offense that can score at will.

dylan_f
dylan_f

Vangorder is Notre Dame bound. Looks like outside of Mornhinweg (and I think Thurman will be back too), there could be some large changes to the staff which would likely be a good thing. The only other guys who should clearly be brought back are Dunbar (who might be in high demand elsewhere), Thurman (continuity is more important than anything at DC with Rex at the helm), Weeks, and maybe Lynn. The other big spots (particularly Kotwica, Lal, Lee, Mcdonald) may be worth changing.

joemustgo
joemustgo

Give Rex a one year extension so there's no risk of losing him if next season goes well and no big buy-out if it doesn't.

Tyrone Garcia
Tyrone Garcia

Im very happy the Jets for once will stick it out with a guy especially when He has shown positiveness when having a good team/

asrwolves
asrwolves

bringing rex back will not remedy anything. he hasn't proved much  in the last 3 seasons , other than how not to prepare for games. Apparently, the jets losses aren't in question here . however, rex being as passionate as person can be with his players and fans, removes any doubt as to his future value as a leader ,but that 's why he's so popular. it's not  the embarrassing losses, it's the bravado in which he possesses', lead fan and players alike, to adore him. 

as a jet fan ,this looks more like a desperate move other than logical one.

realjetfan
realjetfan

I don't always listen to ESPN, but when I do, I make sure Adam Schefter is the source. The guy's pretty legit.

Bernard Mclaughlin
Bernard Mclaughlin

I hope this is right, I love coming to Jet Home games, but if this Admin dumps rex I will dump my season tickets, I will never come to a home game until Woody/idzik are gone if they dump Rex and will spend the money I do at 10 games a year at away games.  listen to the fans Woody, we are the ones who have been fans before you owned it, will be fans after you sell it and we buy the things that put $'s in your pocket, not John idzik.

Bernard Mclaughlin
Bernard Mclaughlin

This is actually a test of Idzik as whether he is a serious NFL executive.  The prevailing wisdom is "get your own guy". That in fact is the easiest way to do it, not the best. Any scmuck GM can let a Coach go to 'get his guy".  A good one, if he has a good coach of a bad/average team will make that Coach "his guy"A good executive, before he fires someone first looks to see , what are that persons strengths, and 'have I put him in a position to maximize those strengths  so he and the company can succeed."   rexhas undeniable strengths for the jet organization:


1. His players will run through walls for him

2. players outside the Jets want to play for him

3. he is a defensive genius

4. Fans love him , mainly because he appears to love the team as much as we do.

5. when given a good team and a rookie QB who wa bad he took teams to the AFC Championship games


so what are his weaknesses?


1. he is inclined to hyperbole when talking of his team(probably because of strength 4)

2. he is not an offensive minded coach

3. when given a bad, talentless team full of rookies and an erratic rookie QB he only is on the verge of a .500 season.


people have said "he stays with bad players too long".  Not a weakness, but a necessity when the "bad" player is the best at the position you have


 Idzik , if he is a good exec, should

a) work with Rex on keeping his mouth shut on things that could inflame opponents and put pressure on players

b) make sure he has an OC like Marty Morningweig  to run the offense

c) Give Rex a say in choosing players , but don't let him have the final say  and subconsciously tend to get defensive players

d) run a first class scouting department , that gets players  that will eliminate  his having to stay with bad QB's(see above false weakness)

e) keep this Coach, who Goddamn it, is the best and most exciting Coach we've had since Tuna

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

There are so many emotions involved in this game and it can play into the Jets hands!

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

This game will be decided by 3 points. We are a much better team than the first meeting, and Geno is maturing.

juunit
juunit

Hooray! 

And now I get to watch my Canes get stomped by Teddy. Boooo!

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@McGeorge 

Dont forget a CB. I  agree with your post; it's mostly about the pieces!

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@mustang66 

Exactly , it's all about getting some weapons on offense and  bolstering  the secondary. 


My focus tomorrow is on Geno, Milliner, Winters and Allen.

kevino
kevino

@Johnsbodybyvi Ledo You're reading way too much into this. Each year between the draft, & free agency there is too much turnover to just blindly say certain teams will be good in 2014 based on their 2013 record. If you want proof of this, just look at the NFC south this year. The Saints were supposed to be rejuvenated under Sean Payton. The Falcons were supposed to be Super Bowl contenders and the Bucs were supposed to be much improved with Revis and the rebuilt secondary. The NFC South were supposed to be a big reason why the Jets were going to struggle so much this year. The Jets ended up beating all three teams, and lost to the only team they supposedly  had a chance to beat based on last years record (Panthers).


There are too many variables that go into a season. Teams get old, teams get injured, teams get lucky in the draft, etc. Fans like to assume teams will be good from one year to the next, but players and coaches know better.

klecko71
klecko71

@Johnsbodybyvi Ledo devils advocate usually involves even the smallest amount of logic.


a coach looking ahead to a schedule the next season??

a coach getting a better offer... who is still under contract so if somehow that team got caught "negotiating" with a coach under contract, they would get in jussssst a bit of trouble.

a coach not worth taking that risk

a coach who has pledged his love and loyalty to the team that gave him his first job and has been lobbying to stay since the season began.  so if somehow he did reject an offer from the jets and left he would be slammed publicly by the same fan base that overwhelmingly loves him and wants him back

a coach (and a GM) who are not dumb enough to try to sell sanchez' return even at a cheap price 


if they tell Rex no extension...which is unheard of... then its a different story.  at least he has to get some kind of deal for 2015 so if he gets fired he gets something


marshrandy
marshrandy

Probably because he's the 3rd coach in Jets history to have a winning record

John Ledo
John Ledo

@mustang66 nfl is a what have you done lately kinda business and rex has failed during the last 3 seasons

__fense
__fense

@jaygo Man, I really hope that was the plan all along, rather than the happy coincidence I'm assuming it is.

jdb7
jdb7

@here2win As a Rutgers grad, I really hope the Jets don't draft Coleman.  I'd even prefer Jordan Matthews over Coleman.

jdb7
jdb7

@asrwolvesYou are looking at this from a very narrow perspective.  A coach can only do so much if he and his staff don't have the talent on the field. 


Look at it this way.  Even though the Jets haven't made the playoffs the past three years, they haven't had nearly as much talent as the best teams in the league.  Yet, each season the Jets have been in playoff contention each December.

davem
davem

Two days Joey u posted

Guys, let's rock this Sunday, and the future looks bright in 2014. I will give you guys all a gift and now take a nice Hiatus. Peace out brothers and have a Happy New year! I might drop by on occasion, but for now, peace out! a57se, GROW A PAIR!

I'm gonna keep posting this so u can see how we all feel Troll

davem
davem

As I kid I always dreamed the Canes would one day play in the Belk Bowl. Orange Bowls, National Championships... Soooo boring.

Time to stomp Teddy and the redbirds

John Ledo
John Ledo

@DarrolRayFanClub @Johnsbodybyvi Ledo ok so go back and re read what I wrote...wheredid I say anything about the lions having a better front line then the jets? 


Didnt the chiefs contact herm? So yes its possible

John Ledo
John Ledo

@klecko71 @Johnsbodybyvi Ledo so you dont think Rex has peeked at next years schedule? Really? Of coarse he has. Love for the team? This is business man, Rex like every other coach, will follow the money. Agents and teams talk to each other all the time, not all of them get caught though.  

mustang66
mustang66

Cboth had losing records with the Jets

juunit
juunit

@davem 

Oh, he's gonna tear us up pretty much guaranteed. The question will be can Morris keep up, especially without Duke. 

John Ledo
John Ledo

@jake100 thank you at least one person thinks logicallyd. Rex might not want the pressure of a one and done especially if a great opening like the lions is available.  I dont what hes actually thinking but I can guarantee hes at least pondering his future

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@Johnsbodybyvi Ledo @jake100 @klecko71 


No doubt, especially after this season. Only Rex knows how comfortable he is and his true relationship with Idzik. He also might say, imagine what I could do with some talent on the Jets and give it a go. Only Rex knows, and you are right, he will be weighing everything.  

John Ledo
John Ledo

@jake100 @Johnsbodybyvi Ledo @klecko71 of coarse he does...you dont think rex is saying to himself...shoot thats a tough schedule next year? You dont think the idea of getting fired next season if the jets do indeed extend his contract, hasn't crossed his mind? Anyone human would think anout the best option going forward

__fense
__fense

@asrwolves @jdb7 You're not going to find a fan of any team That wouldn't rather their team won the games that they lost. There's only 16 games all season, so every game is important. The difference between what you're saying and every other NFL fan is that the rest of us realize that you can't win every game, that there are other talented people playing on the other side, and that losses are going to happen. Find me a head coach that never loses when he needs to win, and I'll pick him up from the airport myself.

asrwolves
asrwolves

@jdb7@asrwolves many believe rex is the solution. many also believe he's a detriment.

the facts cannot change, he looses when he needs to win. I'd rather he'd won .

jdb7
jdb7

@asrwolves@jdb7now, you are just being pessimistic.  The Jets are a 61 yard FG from being in playoff contention this season.

davem
davem

Screw this... I'm going to read a book.

juunit
juunit

@davem 

Meanwhile, Morris' head is already at the post game party at King of Diamonds. 

davem
davem

Ballgame. Teddy's just putting on a show ow

juunit
juunit

@davem 

Word on campus is he makes closer to $3m a year than the reported $2m he gets. Also, he doesn't have to pay for a parking pass. What an a-hole. 

davem
davem

He's doing more than Shannon did, but yea, not much. His agent seems to do a good job acting like other programs are interested in him.

juunit
juunit

@davem 

I have no idea why Al Golden gets paid so much. Far as I'm concerned, he's really accomplished nothing so far. 

davem
davem

Why did they go for it there, then?

davem
davem

Safety!!! Believe Juun. Haha