Buzz: Holmes cut imminent?

According to a report on PFT, the Jets are expected to cut Santonio Holmes within the next few days.

Other media sources seem to back this up:

Bent, TheJetsBlog.com

This wouldn’t be a major surprise because Holmes has a 2014 cap number which is excessive given his recent production and the Jets can create significant extra cap room by letting him go. Getting cut in February wouldn’t necessarily preclude Holmes from returning later on a lower salary, as Calvin Pace did last year, but it seems unlikely.

Holmes got off to a great start with the Jets after being acquired for a 5th round pick in 2010. He had a series of clutch plays to help the Jets reach the AFC Championship Game for the second straight year and then signed a blockbuster deal after the season. 2011 ended in disappointing fashion as the Jets lost their last three games to miss the postseason, with Holmes – who had been named a captain at the start of the season – seeing his frustration boil over in the last game. 2012 began well, but ended prematurely when he suffered a career-threatening Lisfranc fracture in his foot. In 2013, he unexpectedly made it back in time for the start of the season and did have one or two good moments, but ultimately had an injury plagued season with disappointing production.

Always a polarizing figure during his time with the team, I personally felt that Holmes got a raw deal from the media, with whom he shared an obvious mutual contempt. We’ve heard multiple accounts from behind the scenes that Holmes was a terrific mentor to the young receivers on the team and is a good teammate. However, he’s not been a popular figure among the fanbase over the last few years, so many people will be glad to see him gone.

Holmes ultimately will have earned approximately $25m over four seasons with the Jets.




174 comments
biggreen32
biggreen32

Hey Guys - Sorry for the irrelevant post.  Does anybody know somebody who has defaults on PSL payments?  I lost my job and am facing that situation and the Jets have some tough language in the contract so wondering how hard they are going to come after me.  Thanks in advance.

Bent
Bent moderator

 ***PSA - Looks like we can comment on newer threads now.  Apologies for the inconvenience.***

bob
bob

I just bought Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones new book.


Its called meddling with the donkey.



a57se
a57se

Schefter is reporting that the Salary Cap will be $133 million this year and that they are projecting $140 Million in 2015 and $150 million in 2016...That is some pretty good growth!

$11 million for Orakpo doesn't seem so horrible now......

a57se
a57se

OMG! The Panther sign Graham Gano to a 4 year, $12.4 Million Dollar Deal!!!

Fork Folk!!!

Find another kicker!

a57se
a57se

How long before the NFL is shutdown if Sean Gilbert becomes the head of the NFLPA?

Talk about trouble on the horizon...Yikes!

I hope the players don't get seduced by his play.....

a57se
a57se

So I read the Over the Cap piece about Coopers' contract and my take is that Cooper is not as established as Tate while Sanders is probably behind both these guys.

I would not be surprised if Tate gets a better deal than Cooper while Sanders doesn't.

a57se
a57se

So, how did everyone like the Cimidiots' 2013 Free Agent Grades?

I thought they were fairly accurate, amazing considering the source!

levi
levi

 Play like a Brown? It just doesnt roll off the tongue like play like a Jet.

Bent
Bent moderator

***PSA***


Apologies for the lack of a comments section on our latest couple of posts.  Not sure what's going on there, but we're looking into it.  Continue the conversation here if you like.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se  It'll get more attention if you re-post it in the daily links thread.

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@a57se  There will be less FAs on the market now, teams that could not afford to keep their players, now will be able to. Idzik will really be tested now like all GMs not to go crazy on the jacked up prices and bidding wars. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@jake100  From below:


***PSA***


Apologies for the lack of a comments section on our latest couple of posts.  Not sure what's going on there, but we're looking into it.  Continue the conversation here if you like.

a57se
a57se

@jake100  

No one seems to know, that is why everyone is posting here!

Good morning Joseph!

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se  We have a turd in the punchbowl.  I repeat, we have a turd in the punchbowl.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se  Barnes gets a D?  Played well and then suffered an unfortunate injury, but remains under contract at a reasonable rate.  WHAT A TERRIBLE MOVE.


I also thought it was convenient that the good acquisitions Idzik made (Nelson, Ivory, Reed) didn't meet Rich's criteria.

juunit
juunit

@Bent  

Richie Incognito smashed his own Ferrari with a bat. Think anyone still wants to sign him?

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@a57se @jake100   Good morning 57 and crew. I switched to wireless and I am having trouble with a weak signal from an old router, I thought it just might have been me, but right before your post, I got the hint, that is the reason that everyone is posting here.  I need a new router, this is driving me crazy, I keep losing internet access.  


Thanks Bent/57

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent "First order of business. Everyone holdout. That'll show them!" 


*fast foward two weeks*


"Okay, the league owners are seemingly content to wait it out while all of us living paycheck-to-paycheck run out of money. I am resigning as of today, fight the good fight!" 

a57se
a57se

@Bent @a57se 

The Barnes grade was severe though missing most of the season makes it hard to give him a good grade no matter how well he played when he was healthy.

The Free Agent signing period normally isn't thought of as extending all the way through the season so i can understand the omission. The cynic will assume it was done to make Idzik look worse.

I am not sure why Ivory is not on the scorecard but he may just think Ivory applies to the Draft instead of Free Agency?

harold
harold

That article was a waste.  He gave F to simple depth signing like Garay and Peterman.  These were simply fill out the roster guys if they make the team great if not no big deal.  Not sure they even deserved to be graded.

Lastly Kellen Winslow was not a D signing.  He was at worst a C.  He said he was grading on a curve.  He certainly was a downward one.

Brendan
Brendan

@juunit I think he followed that up with a trip to the Livefyre server room. 

davem
davem

My Chuck Norris idea was serious... Dead Serious.

davem
davem

If the Players Union hires Sean Gilbert to represent them, the Owners should replace Goodell with Chuck Norris.

a57se
a57se

@Bent @Brendan 

Well Gilbert wants to force the issue on the CBA and get the players out from under it. That will probably only happen with a job action. That would not be good for Football.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Bent  Mind boggling, the whole thing.  He advises Revis to leverage his way to a deal the league can't really afford and it's the meat-and-potatoes minimum salary guys who lose out in the long run.  If he can dupe them into thinking he's looking out for the interests of "the players" rather than an every man for himself entitlement that he thinks will be productive, then that would be a disgrace.


Who fits the bill so that Darrelle Revis can have platinum handles in his jacuzzi rather than gold ones?  Fans, retired players and the players at the bottom of the food chain (the majority).


...of course the owners are pretty much in the same position, because they're not likely to be the ones to lose out.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Bytor @Bent @a57se  I believe OTC projected 12m for Decker, which I thought was higher than I expected.

Bytor
Bytor

@Bent @a57se  Is Decker really going to get $10-$12M? I think I can convince myself that $10M would work. 


What do you think of these moves: Sign Decker, draft OBJ or Cooks, draft another bigger receiver in the third. OBJ or Cooks take over the slot when Kerley leaves in free agency.


*ducks*

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent  I know you wouldn't but let's say the team is dead-set on spending some money to bring in an established vet WR (possible) ... A or B?

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent  Sanders for 5-6M or Decker for 10-12M tho?

a57se
a57se

@jaygo @Bent  

" I think is also displays Cimini's lack of understanding of the Idzik approach honed in Seattle.  Seattle made 900 roster moves in the past 4 years bringing over 20 undrafted guys  and over 15 round 3 or lesser picks to the Super Bowl. Idzik got trained in the revolving door mentality where you bring in lots of D-1 guys with lesser resumes and pedigrees and see what sticks.  Looking at pre-season FA moves in a vacuum with a guy like Idzik is half baked."

That is a very fair point jaygo!

If I try and give the Cimidiot the benefit of doubt, I would think he did it this way because free Agency is upon us so he thought it would be good to review last years' free Agent signings....

Having read his columns for a long time, the guy is just an Idiot.....though I didn't think his grades were totally off the mark if you just take them at face value.

a57se
a57se

@Bent @a57se 

You'd have to ask the Cimidiot that one.......

Maybe because Free Agency is upon us this year?

maybe he plans on doing a similar report card when the draft approaches?

Maybe he has a secret plan to destroy john Idzik in the eyes of Jets fans?

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent Because this way he can wash out all the positive draft picks with the negative ones and he doesn't have to give either one a positive overall grade. 


I think the offseason was a net positive, but if you break it up you can argue the individual pieces as being below-average. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent  It's a trade, not a free agent signing.  But why not grade his "offseason acquisitions" not just his free agent signings?

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent Yeah. Put that in the Jets' locker room and the stink would never go away. The team being the Pats definitely makes it a special case, but I'd agree it was worth it for them. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @a57se  I was having this conversation with a buddy yesterday that is similar to the "Was Winslow a good signing?" argument, but on a bigger scale...


Was Aaron Hernandez a good draft pick?


Yes, right?  I mean, they still got four years of fringe all-star level production from the guy and on his way out he doesn't seem to have damaged the credibility of the franchise or torn apart the team, as embarrassing as that situation was.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se 


I'd give it either a C or a C+. Without the suspension it would likely have been in the B-range. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se He was 4th on the team in catches despite missing 4 games due to a suspension and being benched in favor of Cumby multiple times. 


He was clearly Geno's favorite target pre-suspension. 

harold
harold

Winslow played fine.  He got suspended.  But he helped us win a couple games on a min salary.  Can't ask for much more than that.

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

If 57 thinks its a good article then I know not to read it. Cuz we all know his narrative on idzik so I'm sure all it does is support that.

a57se
a57se

@harold  

All Winslow provided was controversy and bad press....the Jets hardly gave him any reps after his suspension.....

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent I just hope Hanker and Fonzie don't throw out their Gholston/Incognito combo jerseys. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@juunit  After what he did to that locker room, "wildfire" might be a better name for him.

Brendan
Brendan

@juunit  I'm not sure which one that statement is a bigger insult for. 

juunit
juunit

Haha. Maybe Richie Incognito IS Livefyre.