Buzz: Jets interested in TE John Carlson?

Per Mike Garafolo of Fox Sports, the Jets could be set to get in the mix for veteran tight end John Carlson, who was released by the Vikings last week.

Bent, TheJetsBlog.com

The 29-year old signed a five year, $25m contract with the Vikings two seasons ago, but was a big disappointment. He had just forty catches in two seasons in Minnesota, although 32 of them were last year. After being drafted in the second round of the 2008 draft, he had 106 catches and 12 touchdowns in his first two seasons with the Seahawks, but just 71 catches and three touchdowns in three seasons since then.

Carlson provides a big target at 6-5, but isn’t known for his blocking. Despite his reduction in productivity over the past few years, he did show the ability to contribute last November in a come-from-behind win over the Redskins where he caught seven passes for 98 yards and a touchdown.

It’s unlikely Carlson will ever rediscover the level of productivity he achieved earlier in his career, but he is a player John Idzik must be familiar with from his time in Seattle, so the fact they’re bringing him in for a look suggests he believes Carlson must have something left in the tank.

As a released player, Carlson wouldn’t count as a qualifying UFA addition for compensatory pick purposes and the Jets don’t need to wait until free agency begins if they want to sign him.




106 comments
Rich Laurelli
Rich Laurelli

The Vikings released Letroy Guion, that's who we should sign. I'm tired of watching Douzable jumping offside every game.

Tooned In
Tooned In

No no and no. The only familiarity Idzik had with Carlson was being part of the team that showed Carlson the door out of Seattle. He was one of the many failed picks that typified the softness and non-physicality of the Seahawks at the end of the Mike Holmgren era. The current Seattle regime thought so highly of Carlson that they signed Zach Miller as soon as they took over. 


What I want to know is what Minnesota saw of his play in Seattle to justify that contract. He must have the greatest agent in the world.

bob
bob

Wait doh minute............... Carlson no block?

lagoo
lagoo

I'm not even remotely interested in anyone the jets are reportedly interested. I hope we don't sign any of these guys. Besides Vick I'd sign up for that

harvlis
harvlis

I'd pass on Carlson.  If he was known as a blocker, and we could get him on the cheap, okay.  I would pick up a WR or two in free agency, as it takes a year or two for most receivers to get used to the pro game.  Then, I would look to get one of the top TE's in the draft. 

Marvel
Marvel

I feel RB is getting little ink this off season but may be one of our biggest concerns.


Ivory is a #2 or 1B at best. Seattle borrowed our blueprint but let's not talk about that... We need to improve the RB position  if we wanna be like the guys that stole our plan.. 


Normally I subscribe to the Shannahan (sp) find them late theory, but I say we identify a #1 back and spend a day 2 pick on one.




(there Isn't one in free agency )

bklyndude
bklyndude

@jake100   Gotta go with Mo.  

He knows he isn't going anywhere.  The Jets need him.  Mo knows what's going on and will wait until the time is right for the team. 

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@jake100  It's funny that on a team like the Pats,Saints ,Niners it's considered par for course for a team to use an option but on teams like the Jets,Bills etc. it's considered cheap. Talk about an unfair double standard.

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100  Oh god, go take a shot of whiskey and calm down, Joey. This is expected. They're going to exercise the 5th year, keep lines of communication open and revisit his extension/new contract after the season. If he pumps out another all-pro level year, I can't see them holding out on extending him another season. 

harvlis
harvlis

@Rich Laurelli I don't think you were watching, Rich.  Douzable played very well for us, last season.  If we can get him for a reasonable price, he would be a bargain.  This is not to say that Guion is not a solid player. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 That article stinks. Serby writes for the paper that was leading the charge on the "circus" narrative. The title and first half of the article are all about the dogs, then he shifts gears and writes that it's "definitely not about the dogs! I swear!" before going into his half-assed argument. 


I don't want Vick, but there are more coherent and less misleading ways to argue against it. Serby Sucks. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100  Upgrade the #2 spot to a more dynamic RB and receiver? You have yourself a killer ground game. 

Pat d
Pat d

Getting Evans in the draft would be better than any of the FA WRs. Evans isn't in the class of most receivers

jma020
jma020

@Marvel  Playing Defense and running the ball isn't our blueprint.  

harold
harold

Ivory is a one when healthy, he played extremely well for us in the second half of the season. He provided tough running with explosive plays.

Disgruntled Jets Fan
Disgruntled Jets Fan

@Marvel Ivory is fine in his role.   #1 in yards after contact running outside!

 What we need is a pass catching back, like what Goodson was supposed to be.

juunit
juunit

@Marvel  

I'm not too worried about it. There's a bunch of RBs who I think fit our needs. So even if we do wait until the 4th, 5th, 6th round to get one, we can come away with a real quality player assuming we take the right guy. 

a57se
a57se

@Marvel  

I agree but doubt we'll do that.

harvlis
harvlis

@Pat d Of course, if we could get one of the top receivers, like Evans, you get him but, I don't think he will be there at 18.  We don't even know if the two TE's will be there. 

j3tsfan29
j3tsfan29

Knowshon Moreno, he sure caught some passes last yr.

a57se
a57se

According to Walter Footballs prospect meetings list the Jet have talked to ONE RB, Ladarius Perkins who I just don't see as a no. 1 RB....

Bytor
Bytor

@Brendan @jake100  Hey B, I think you may be underestimating the distraction. Philly's a major market, but it's nowhere close to NY. If they really believe in Geno, why take the risk on a distracting backup. Kinda been there done that with disastrous results. Just get a Tavaris Jackson, draft another and move on. Let some other team deal with it.

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 That's just wrong, Joey. What happened this year with the media? Nothing. They tried to stir up stuff, but were met with the stone cold demeanor of John "Destroyer of Worlds" Idzik. 


How many controversies were there last year? How many times were the Jets on ESPN for non-game related negative things? It's a new day, man. Idzik literally gives them nothing. tsjc (god bless him) used the best analogy I've seen to date on Idzik's approach to the media, taken from The Departed:


My theory on the media is that they're like mushrooms, feed 'em sh-- and keep 'em in the dark. 


There is no circus. Vick or no Vick. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 It wasn't poison for Philly, did you look at it from that way? 

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 Joey, please understand this: the circus is not real. There is no circus. The NY Post, but printing something like this is setting the groundwork for a "circus" narrative. They're praying that the Jets sign Vick so they can use this story as a "source" and rip the team for it. 


Vick coming to the team would not bring a circus. Philly has had him for four seasons, the team isn't dealing with protests every week anymore. Sure, there will be some initial backlash, but like anything else in life with our current society, it'll blow over when people find the next thing to get upset about. I'm not belittling the outcry, but we all know that's how it will happen. 


I don't want Vick for football reasons, but the team could do a lot worse. And for all his faults, he still does some things as well or better than anyone. Throwing on the run, something Geno excels at, is something that Vick does effortlessly, and is probably his biggest strength as a passer. There are things Geno can learn from him, so if the team does sign him we shouldn't immediately move to "circus" talk. Let the media do that and get shut down by Idzik, again. 

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@Brendan @jake100  It's funny how so much more is expected of backs. HOF backs needed 25 carries a game to have a 100 to 200 yd. game and yet in today's game we expect  a back to get in a rhythm and be a number one back without number one carries.

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 I want them to get a good player to share the load with him, but Ivory should still get the majority of carries. Split them up, definitely, but get the ball in his hands 15-20 times a game. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 His "history of injuries" is greatly exaggerated. He had one injury that landed him on IR that carried over into the start of the next season (2010 into 2011), but since then his only injuries that have kept him out have been hamstrings. 

harold
harold

He is a big time running back. Period.

Brendan
Brendan

@Marvel His only injury last year was a hammy that he tweaked before the season started, though. It's not like he got blown out shoulders or anything. He hits like a truck, but people underrate how elusive he is. People don't usually get square hits on him unless he wants them to (which usually is a bad thing for that other guy). 

bklyndude
bklyndude

@Marvel @bklyndude   I could see the team looking for an upgrade or serious competition for Powell who has proved to be a good soldier but limited compared with top RB's.  We don't really know about Goodson and whether he is in the teams plans this year or not.   

That's good that we along with everybody else don't know what the hell Idzik is thinking at this point.

Marvel
Marvel

@a57se

 His running style isn't built for a 16 game projection.. 

Marvel
Marvel

@bklyndude

 Ok, would still like some upgrades. Powell being one play away from #1 isn't that pleasant of a thought.

Brendan
Brendan

@Marvel I just think Ivory with 200+ carries is omg. 


And now I'm going to eat something. 

bklyndude
bklyndude

@Brendan @Marvel    If the passing game improves this season,  Ivory will again be the least of this teams problems.

Marvel
Marvel

@Brendan

 I think  our #1 RB should be a pass catching threat as well. 

 You make food points,  I would feel better if Ivory was the 2nd option.

juunit
juunit

@Marvel @Brendan 

I'll echo everyone elses' opinion on Powell. He's a 3rd RB. And with Goodson being a total unknown right now with injury/court stuff, I think we definitely need a guy to compliment Ivory and keep Powell on the bench. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Marvel I'm actually not that high on Powell. I think Goodson will be great if he's healthy, but they can't rely on that. I think they should draft someone in the mid/late rounds that is a good receiver. But Ivory is the sledgehammer, If they can get the OL working early, he'll be devastating. 

Marvel
Marvel

@Brendan

 I'm sure u like Powell and we all are unsure of Goodson..


can I assume u don't feel the run game needs much improvement?


Bent
Bent moderator

@Marvel @Bent  So limit him then.  Play to his strengths and he'll make good contributions.

Marvel
Marvel

@Bent

 Ivory is a Bull.. just think he's limited

Brendan
Brendan

@Marvel Yeah, if he can stay healthy he's definitely a #1 in my mind. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se You're the worst. "Most of the time" Ivory got the block asked of him. Over 87% of the time, actually. He gave up 1 sack and 5 pressures. 

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

Doesn't matter, it still is a fact. Just like the Jets haven't won a SB since 1969 nor have they been in one...these are facts regardless of who has or hasn't been with the team.

a57se
a57se

@Zartan  

It;s OK, Ivory couldn't most of the time and he was useless out of the backfield on passing downs as well.

But he's our bonafide no. 1 RB.....Pitiful.

Zartan
Zartan

Watch Tyler Gaffney, has good vision and great speed for 220pds. I will say though, don't know if he cuold pick up a blitz.

harold
harold

Ivory is a big time back

Brendan
Brendan

@jaygo Somewhere in this mess I did say that they should draft a RB in the mid-to-late rounds. I still hope the team finds a dynamic RB to replace Powell as the primary backup/start if Ivory gets hurt, I just think Ivory is a legitimate starting RB. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se I don't see the connection. How many people have been with the team that entire time? 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se I'm not debating anything, I just hate when people say the Jets "haven't done _____" for so so long. 

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

Why are you debating this? you are talking apples and oranges t for no reason...Geex.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Still used draft picks. And I don't see what scouting decades ago has to do with today's team. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se They traded draft picks for Martin, he was pretty good. 

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

Like I said, no surprise from a team that hasn't drafted a quality RB since Freeman McNeil.....

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Or they see the value in not spending valuable assets on a position that has one of the highest turnover rates in the league (turnover as in rosters, not fumbles). 

a57se
a57se

@Bent @a57se 

OK, that isn't on Walters list.

Perkins is ranked no. 423 by CBS while DJ is no. 577

That is like undrafted Free Agent unkinown player level...... that is the best we could do inn this draft? No surprise there from a team that hasn't drafted a quality RB since Freeman McNeil.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se  


DJ Adams Portland State.  They're high on him as a sleeper and have definitely met with him once or twice.