Buzz: Jets to pursue Chiefs guard Jon Asamoah?

Earlier this week Tony Pauline shared that the Jets might be moving back to a more run-centered offense in 2014 and as an outworking of that direction, the Jets might have interest Kansas City Chief guard Geoff Schwartz once free agency begins in earnest at noon today with the negotiations window preceding the official start of free agency on Tuesday.  Could the Jets have their eyes on a different Chiefs guard too?  Manish Mehta of the NY Daily News wrote late Friday night that the Jets are reported to have interest in Jon Asamoah.

Asamoah, a third round 2010 draftee out of Illinois turns 26 this summer, and he has started 31 games as a fifth year player.  During the 2013 season, Asamoah lost his starting spot to the talented Geoff Schwartz when Asamoah had to sit with a shoulder injury in November.  Reports out of KC were that Schwartz played so well in that one game that the Chiefs coaching staff made the decision to keep him as the starter over the final five games of the regular and post-season.  The Chiefs offense started to pick up speed around that same time, which is hard to tie to Schwartz’s role and more with the players becoming familiar with Reid’s scheme.  All the same, the coaching staff likely figured if it wasn’t broke, don’t fix it.

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

Among all active guards, Asamoah ranked 20th in PFF’s positional rankings starting 12 games for the Chiefs at right guard.  Compared to Willie Colon, he’s good but not as sound against the pass, but he is a stable contributor against the run rather than being a liability as Colon was for the Jets in on running plays in 2013.  A player like Schwartz would be a better all-around talent for the Jets, but might come with a higher price tag.  Among all free agents, Asa ranked 60th in the Around the League free agency 101, and 61st on PFT’s Hot 100 list while holding down the #5 spot among guards in Rotoworld’s top free agent list.

I would love the Jets to bring in a more well-rounded talent at the right guard spot in 2014 and not force the issue with a player like Oday Aboushi or Will Campbell just yet.  Free agency is about filling holes and signing a good interior linemen at a reasonable price is one sure way to make life easier on whoever is running the football or standing in the pocket.




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Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

No matter who they go after i am certain of one thing, there is no reason what so ever to even mention the names of Oday Oboushi or Will Campbell as they will almost definitely be road kill before next season starts.Oboushi and Campbell should have been on the practice squad ,at best, as they were obviously so bad they never suited up for even one game? With how poorly Ducasse and Winters were last year these two must be horrible if they were buried behind them plus Caleb Slauderhoff.

bob
bob

Sure you can draft guards  in the 3rd round and  in the latter rounds and develop them and its always the same story they all can run block none of them can pass block..Top talented guard that can mall ya as well as being "great pass blockers" will be drafted 1st maybe 2nd round guys its just a fact!

williamg1
williamg1

Football is a game of attrition. During Rex's time as coach, his teams that performed the best, were the teams that experienced little injury (2009, 2010). You have to expect injury, and build solid depth to protect yourself. Tanny got lucky in 2009 and 2010, but in 2012 injuries caught up. The Jets don't need a ton of big-time players, but need to create quality depth. Can you imagine what would happen if Mangold or Brick went down? That scares the hell out of me. 

williamg1
williamg1

What's the deal with Sproles? Is he worth going after? Didn't follow him in 2013, so I don't know what the deal is. 


williamg1
williamg1

So basically you take away B. Moore from his right, take away Slauson from his left (and replace with a rookie) and then have a rookie QB running your offense, and we wonder why Mangold's play slipped a little. Please solidify the guard spot. 

j3tsfan29
j3tsfan29

I'd rather have shwartz for a few reasons. One being Hes better then asomoah, two because then we could say our shwartz is as big as yours! The O line should be a major priority and cost shouldn't matter. When I say it shouldn't matter I don't mean pay a player an unwarranted contract. If he warrants 11 mil pay him that and let's get back to the best o line in football. Please don't sacrifice the trenches because of being cheap. Also, anyone know what the hold up is with the Howard contract?

MarshRandy
MarshRandy

Not gonna miss all the Colon penalties

harold
harold

With Colon being so good at Pass Blocking might the Jets consider signing Colon for RT and spending the same amount for a Guard and Tackle as just for Howard.  This would still maintain a consistent presence on the Line.  Remember Colon was one of the best tackles in football before the injuries.

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

Why do I have this feeling that our oline will give me agita again this season?

jdb4
jdb4

Screw it, pay the money to Schwartz.

harold
harold

His play dropped off a little.  But he is still a quality player.  We may kick the tires on him.

j3tsfan29
j3tsfan29

Oh how I've missed your negativity.

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@harold   I dont think we can bank on Colon to last a whole season with his injury status and on the wrong side of 30. To be honest, I was amazed he made the entire season. I don't think the odds will be defied again. I want him back cheap as reliable depth.

buckets
buckets

@jake100  Because you want a perfect offensive line.  It wasn't a huge problem last year until Winters derped his way into being a starter.

Brendan
Brendan

@jdb4  He's going to get more than Asamoah, probably. 

williamg1
williamg1

@harold  Seems like he'd be perfect for what we need -- especially with Goodson's uncertainty. 

harold
harold

16 games last year and he was never really on the injury report all season.  He got hurt many Lineman do.  Many need minor surgeries after the season.  A Biceps injuries is not a major injury for lineman.  A triceps or torn Pec is much more severe.

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@buckets @jake100   Not true, I just want one that is stable and consistent with some adequate depth. Ranked #25 by PFF, and major questions at guard is far from perfect. 

j3tsfan29
j3tsfan29

Technically it has. Teams can negotiate starting today!!

j3tsfan29
j3tsfan29

I'd be fine with that. I'd rather pay more for a quality guard then pay less for crappier version.

williamg1
williamg1

@jdb4 @Brendan  I hear you. I just think that more than anything, the Jets need to provide Geno with as many weapons possible, right now, to help him grow. 

jdb4
jdb4

@Brendan @jdb4 

I can't argue against the proven commodity side.  Sproles could likely offer 2 maybe 3 good not great seasons.


I just believe the money would be spent wisely elsewhere.  


I don't think they Jets are contending for a Super Bowl this year, only a playoff run, so I think investing in a rookie who needs one season of development would be wiser.

Brendan
Brendan

@jdb4 Nope. Like Harold said, Sproles is proven. 

harold
harold

@jdb4

Sproles is a proven player.  So if you can get him at a reasonable price you would consider that a better bet than a rookie.

But I certainly understand your point.

Brendan
Brendan

@Disgruntled Jets Fan That comment wasn't even that negative. That's one of the bigger holes in Colon's game, he draws a lot of flags. 

j3tsfan29
j3tsfan29

You do realize that when tackles get up in age they tend to slide inside to guard? Because he once was a good tackle doesn't mean he is to this day. In fact I'd rather sign a fa then being back colon even for a guard spot.

harold
harold

We just counted on him for 2013.  I am not saying not to have a quality backup.  But Colon is a quality Tackle.  He is a better tackle than guard to be honest.

So if we used him for Guard.  Why wouldn't he serve as a quality starter at tackle?

Again just different scenarios.  But one I think might be worth investigating.

j3tsfan29
j3tsfan29

Please no!!! Colon is a good player but to count on him at his age with his injury history to hold down the tackle spot against pass rushers? If were not going to keep Howard the best thing we can do is sign up roger saffold.

harold
harold

He had leg injuries before mostly.   He is a good player.  He is a quality starter still.  With a good player inside him, I think he would be fine for 1 or 2 years

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@harold  Thats what I mean, he defied the odds last year. He also has a history of injuries. I dont want to rely on him to play the entire season. I think he would be great cheap depth though.

harold
harold

@williamg1

Now 4 months is the same as year?

You are really pushing it.

Plus he would still be able to do leg exercises and core exercises.  So is he really losing that much?

I understand the concern so you bring in a quality player who can start as well.  But it doesn't mean you overpay for Howard.

j3tsfan29
j3tsfan29

Sorry for the double post. Thought it didn't post because it dropped to the bottom...

j3tsfan29
j3tsfan29

I didn't say asamoah was a crappy guard, I said he's a crappier version. I'd rather have shwartz with a more expensive contract let colon go bye bye and sign roger saffold who can play every position except center for backup.

harold
harold

@a57se

As always you know I am giving scenarios. 

I just think that may be a one way to really help us get two quality players for the price of one.

Hey we used to let Hunter play.

j3tsfan29
j3tsfan29

I didn't say he's a crappy guard. I said he's a crappier version. I'd take shwartz over asa and I would sign roger saffold as well. Colon can go bye bye and shwartz plugs in his spot with saffold able to play every position except center he could play guard or tackle.

a57se
a57se

@harold  

Brendan.....as usual.

Though in this specific case, I agree with him. We're not signing Colon and a guy like Asamoah....

williamg1
williamg1

@harold  You can't just take a year off of weight training, and think you can pick up where you left off. 


I'd imagine that he has problems doing simple pushups right now, just from the atrophy. And that exercise doesn't even use his bicep. There is no way he's going to get back up to strength in a couple of months -- especially at his age. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Colon did exactly what I said he would, so not sure what your point is. 


@harold  You want to move him to a position he hasn't played in 5 years coming off a serious injury. I just stated I highly doubt the team would use that strategy. 

harold
harold

I am missing your point? 

Is it for me or Brendan or both?

harold
harold

I stated in the thread above we would need a quality back-up.

So your point has no point.

I am talking about his recovery from this injury.

I am not making him out ot be Lou Gehrig.

Brendan
Brendan

@harold  I like Colon, but acting like he's not an injury concern is ridiculous man. He's missed two full seasons because of injury and he's in the middle of a months-long recovery for another serious injury. Stinky Feet is not a sure thing and the team can't risk a starting spot on a guy who might miss time with injury. Howard's started 32 games the past two years, that's what I'm looking for. 

harold
harold

But one at which he was one of the best in football. 

He was moved for injury not skill.  He was still performing at a high level.

harold
harold

That was speculation and even if it is, again he had immediate surgery and we have heard nothing to suggest he is not going to be available for OTA's in May as orginally expected. 

And I have certainly not heard anything even in the link you sent which I read by the way at the time to suggest he would not be ready.

Brendan
Brendan

@harold  I'm surprised that you're surprised people are questioning the idea of Colon starting at a position he hasn't played consistently since 2009. 

harold
harold

He has been in wieight training programs for 10 years in the NFL.  He will be fine by the start of the season.  Many guys were okay with bringing back at guard.  I am proposing him at a position he plays better and many seemed to question the move. 

Surprised is the word.

williamg1
williamg1

@harold  Torn bicep = no upper body workouts since the injury. 


So, naturally, he's atrophied in his upper body. But not just upperbody, he can't do squats or deadlifts. 


He's way behind any healthy guard. And for an older player, their offseason workouts become all the more important. 

Brendan
Brendan

@harold  Where have you read four? That's a 6-9 month recovery, usually. 


And even if it's May, you think the team leaves their RT slot open until then? 

harold
harold

He also has a long history of playing well.

I am not proposing a 5 million a year contract.

But just like last year, if we can get his level of play at his salary than he is a steal. 

williamg1
williamg1

@harold  When you hit a certain age, injuries don't always heal as quickly or as well as when you're younger. 


And, besides, Colon has a long history of injuries.

harold
harold

That is incorrect.  He should be ready for OTA's in May. 

The recovery time for his surgery was only 4 months. 

He already knows system so no big deal.

Brendan
Brendan

@harold  The thing is, Colon won't be ready for a while, so the team would be banking on zero complications and him returning to form post-surgery. That's a gamble I don't see the team taking. 

harold
harold

Asamoah at 3.5 million per year is a good investment.

Along with Colon at 1.5 million would give us a solid right side of the line for 2014 at probably less than what Howard wants alone.

Brendan
Brendan

@j3tsfan29 Asamoah is most definitely not crappy. He's a very good, 25 year old guard. Schwartz is also a very good guard and only 27, but he's probably going to get a big offer from KC. 


I'd rather sign Asamoah to a more reasonable contract. 

jdb4
jdb4

@j3tsfan29  

Agreed. The one spot I'm always happy a team overspending a bit on is for quality offensive line play.