Buzz: Status of Jets assistant coaches becoming more uncertain

Back on New Year’s Eve, Rex Ryan was asked about his and his coaches’ status with the organization, Ryan didn’t make any commitments, but did speak in positive generalities about his staff.

When asked about Dennis Thurman’s future, Ryan answered for his coordinator (as well as his staff) by saying that “I think it would be pretty clear what the Jets think of our coaches here in the next few days.”

That might be increasingly evident, especially in light of ESPN’s Adam Schefter report on Saturday.

And our Jake Steinberg tacked on this little bit of news.

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

“Offered extensions” could be interpreted in any number of ways.  It wouldn’t be contradictory to Schefter’s report to conjecture that the the Jets might be in talks with the Jets assistants even if they haven’t hammered out details.

Still, the deadline for exclusive negotiations has passed.

I don’t know all the names of the expiring contracts but DC Dennis Thurman, RB coach Anthony Lynn, DL coach Karl Dunbar, WR coach Sanjay Lal and STC Ben Kotwica were among those names.

It might end up being much ado about nothing, but the question can at least be raised as to whether or not GM John Idzik is trying to delay new contracts for Rex’s coaches as a means to passively move them off the staff.




52 comments
funkymonk
funkymonk

Dunbar's a keeper, could go either way on Lynn, but I think Lal has got to go. I was optimistic when he came over from Oakland, where it seemed the team's main strength was developing WRs; however in the 2 seasons he's been here, he's gotten absolutely nothing out of Stephen Hill, or really anyone not named Kerley (and he was already showing his talent before Lal showed up).

hofstra97
hofstra97

After reading Collision Low Crossers, I have a new found respect for assistant coaches. Although I hope to keep Dunbar, DL is Rex's strength. He tends to get attached to his guys and we could use some fresh eyes looking at the defense.

a57se
a57se

Was anyone blaming Dunbar last season when the D'Line couldn't stop a nosebleed?

Kirk Michael
Kirk Michael

Agreed Dunbars the man and should be DC. Thurman should look else where for a job like Pettine or something. If we lost Rex the only way I would ever be able to get over it is Dunbar as the DC!! 

frustjetfn
frustjetfn

Dunbar would be the only one who would be real depressing to lose. The man has a proven track record in establishing a dominant line wherever he goes and based on the techniques he teaches our young line will become an even more dominant force.


As an outsider, it seems like Idzik is an extremely slow mover. We don't know if this is by design or if he's a plodder, but if we lose talent that we could've / should've or otherwise would've kept and his slow moves cost the Jets more to keep the same talent, then he's hurting the team. Only time will tell.

harold
harold

Also what do you guys think of drafting Donte Moncrief from Ole Miss in the middle 2nd or early 3rd round of the draft.  I watched several offensive game -tapes and he looks really solid.  Good not great speed, Very solid hands to make the easy and tough catches.  Saw one drop in 3 or 4 games tapes and it was tough sideline catch.  Listed at 6'3" 222lbs.  Looked closer to 6'2"  but still good size and hands.  Need to vary his route running.  Looked like he only ran stutter go's, post, comebacks and bubble screens.

Bent
Bent moderator

FWIW - Dunbar has been saying "we" and "us" a lot in interviews and tweets, as if he's assuming he'll be back.

dylan_f
dylan_f

The Jets have been oddly cheap over the years, considering their market. Three consecutive first time head coaches, three consecutive first time NFL DC's, refusing to move on from Schottenheimer until his contract expired, two consecutive first time GM's, having Bill Parcells be hired as a consultant in their own division without any reports of them making him an offer.


I can only hope that if the Jets do move on from guys on their staff, they'll invest money into getting a really solid coaching staff. Outside of Bill Callahan, they've never really hired strong coaches as position coaches, like we've seen other teams do with guys like Mike Tice and Hue Jackson. Keep Dunbar, and maybe keep Thurman, but hire somebody strong as a WR coach who can also help make sure that things are being noticed that Rex might miss while helping with the defense. And hire a strong special teams coordinator who can really reshape that unit. I'd even love to see them get someone like Munchak as O-Line coach and move Devlin back to TE's/assistant OL, but I'm guessing that won't happen.

Bent
Bent moderator

When Steiny tweeted about Dunbar earlier today, someone responded with "definsive line had poor techniques according to Pete Carroll and too many penalties."


Has anyone else heard about Pete Carroll criticizing the technique of our defensive linemen?


(If he has, my own view would be that this is ridiculous).

Kyle Ely
Kyle Ely

We cannot lose Dunbar man even if we have to make him D-coordinator

levi
levi

A lot of these guys may want to weigh their options. Take a look at how some of the other coaches that worked under Rex and moved on have done. Some of these guys will get better offers. I think we all agree that Dunbar should be kept and made happy.

Malty by nature
Malty by nature

Really I just want Dunbar back, what he has done developing our D-Line has been great. The rest are replaceable parts, but hes the best in the game at what he does 

NYCPEinGermany
NYCPEinGermany

passively moving dunbar off the staff would be a travesty 

Joe/Orlando
Joe/Orlando

I'm kind of curious how "offered extensions" could be interpreted in any number of ways.  So far, I count one way.

a57se
a57se

BB, are you just trying to stir stuff up?

Are you REALLY a JETS FAN??


dapoktan
dapoktan

@frustjetfn yea.. he seems to take his time.. which would be fine if he got results.. but I'm a little underwhelmed by his management of the staff, drafting of players, and signing of FAs so far.. hopefully as he has had more time settled in, he'll have a better off-season this time around... but losing a number of talented Asst Coaches that have a repertoire w/ Rex doesnt seem like a good start.

a57se
a57se

@harold 

He is similar to Adams but I think Adams is better.

davem
davem

My wife graduated from ole miss and I watch most of their games. I like moncreif. He's solid. Not gonna blow u away but solid. Treadwell, freshman last season, is the real playmaker at WR but moncreif is a good possession WR and would be a good fit for the Jets IMO

davidus1
davidus1

@Bent I just called Pete. He's not sure. Loses track of all the poorly disciplined defenses that he criticizes.

djf1
djf1

@levi agree.  I can't see them letting him get away unless it's a promotion.

Brendan
Brendan

@NYCPEinGermany I can't imagine them just letting him walk. Their DL is the team's strength and no one is better than Dunbar at coaching up talent on the DL. 

Brian Bassett
Brian Bassett moderator

@Joe/Orlando  that they haven't offered extensions could mean that:

1) They haven't "offered extensions" ... at all
2) They haven't "offered extensions" ... but they have expressed interest in re-signing the coaches in a given time period

3) They haven't "offered extensions" ... but they have offered the coaches deal-points that are not acceptable

4) They haven't "offered extensions" ... but they have offered the coaches deal-points that are acceptable

5) They haven't "offered extensions" ... that the coaches/agents deem as worthy of signing

Brian Bassett
Brian Bassett moderator

@a57se I am a closet Bills/Dolphins/Patriots fan who writes on a blog almost every day since 2004 as an attempt to get in the Guiness Book of Records as "WORLD'S BIGGEST INTERNET TROLL"

davem
davem

Moncreif also has his own song made popular by the Ole Miss student section, which u can YouTube... Always a plus in my book:)

levi
levi

@djf1 You know a lot of people bash Rex but he is building quite a coaching tree so I assume GMs realize this.

levi
levi

@Brendan @NYCPEinGermany  I agree, however the talent on this D line probably makes his job easier. As you know Rex has a lot of experience coaching up D lines too.

a57se
a57se

@djf1@a57se 

So am I!

Tell me something, how much smoke do you need to see before you think there MAY BE a FIRE?

harold
harold

@davem


In the games I watched Moncrief was the best player on the field.  He was impressive and looked like a solid pro prospect.   Thanks for the additional insight

Bigfoo7
Bigfoo7

Maybe he does.

See what I did there.

levi
levi

@Brendan As I said I agree and I definitely want him back. As do the players.

Brendan
Brendan

@levi Easier, perhaps, but more talent equals higher expectations. People had very high expectations for the Jets' young DL this year and it might have actually surpassed them. Dunbar is worth every penny, probably twice as much in fact. 

a57se
a57se

@levi

i am glad to hear that but it always makes me laugh when someone does question my fanhood as I get bored watching Football that does not involve the Jets........I am a Jets fan more then I am a Football fan.

levi
levi

@a57se Well I have no doubt about what team you are passionate for my man.

a57se
a57se

@levi

Well people have seen the same from me and questioned whether I am a fan......

levi
levi

@a57se I see. I thought it was odd you would question his faithfulness to the Jets. I mean you have seen his rants after tough losses or poor decisions I assume. 

a57se
a57se

@levi@a57se 

Hell no....I was being facetious. I think there is a power struggle going on between the Idzik camp and Rex. Idzik is trying not to back Rex into a corner but that is, in effect, what is happening.

levi
levi

@a57se haha I bet you have a lot of experience at it too.


Ok, but is that a serious question to Bassett?

a57se
a57se

@levi@a57se 

Well if you are applying that cowboy quote to me, I can back it up.

levi
levi

@a57se "How'd you get so old with that mouth of yours?" -Some old cowboy quote I cant recall....because Im getting old.