Calvin Pryor’s Louisville highlights

Here’s Calvin Pryor’s Fox Sports draft profile video.  For a longer clip with more clips of him in coverage and against the run? See this one from NFLDraftGeek.com on YouTube.

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

Watching this clip again, it’s interesting to see that at points during his career at Louisville Calvin Pryor wore number 25, the same number that another Louisville safety wore with the Jets going on ten years now … Kerry Rhodes.

Pryor is obviously an extremely physical football player, maybe even the most physical player among defensive backs in this draft class.  In coverage, Pryor is said to be good enough with more limiting range than Ha’Sean Clinton-Dix, but with quickness enough and ability to pluck the ball out of the air.  Pryor is at his best when he can take a direct path to the ball and as a result he’s been susceptible at times to play actions, but given time with NFL coaches that should get addressed.  Pryor is aggressive, physical and can play both up around the line of scrimmage and deep in one-high safety sets; traits which Rex Ryan historically has been fond.  While everyone (myself included) expected the Jets to go corner or receiver, in drafting the safety the Jets addressed the greater need (the secondary) and must feel confident in some of the pass-catchers that might be available to them tonight in the second and third rounds of the draft.




301 comments
Nick Congello
Nick Congello

Had a weird dream last night that the browns traded hoyer to the texans for a 3rd round pick.. That would be pretty cool

harold
harold

We should have traded back for a 3rd rounder. 


D. Bucannon and Gabe Jackson or fill in the blank to me would be much better than Pryor alone.  I just don't get why we are not being more critical here.  Hopefully Pryor becomes a consistent Pro Bowl performer.  I feel even if he becomes a good but not great player this will be looked at poorly because we did not use the board well. 

NYCPEinGermany
NYCPEinGermany

It surprises me that so many people don't like this pick.


All I've heard for months is that this is a deep draft at WR & CB. So if there are a lot of really good players at these two positions, there's no reason to take one in the first unless you are completely sold that the guy is elite. Since the draft is a crap shoot and there will be a slew of really good players at these positions well into tonight's activities, it make so much sense to me to draft the best player at a position in which this draft is not deep and worry about WR & CB today. 


If the strategy is: create a pool of guys you like at a position and as long as there is not a drastic run on that position, draft another position and address the first position later, then I could see us going TE, OLB or OL in round two (though personally I am not convinced as some others are that OL is such a dire need and as far as I'm concerned we can addfess OLB a little later as well). Then if the pool of players with similar grades at WR &/or CB starts thinning out, trade up. 


I like Idzik's intelligent approach - we don't HAVE to draft a WR in round one just because many fans have the letters 'WR' burned into their pupils. After the top three were gone, I found the remaining WRS to be pretty interchangeable anyway (all have big pros and some cons/questions).

MarshRandy
MarshRandy

Texans looking to trade out of #33

Pat d
Pat d

It was probably already mentioned but there is a very good chance Houston takes Carr

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@harold  


I wish we had moved down, too, and clearly Idzik seems to have explored all sorts of possible offers, but apparently none were enticing enough to get a deal done.   I can envision Cleve at 26, NO, 27, Carolina 28 all likely dance partners, but sliding down that far may have jeopardized the certainty of their getting Pryor.

a57se
a57se

@NYCPEinGermany  

You are so right....we should of drafted a Center in 1983 because it was the best QB class.....

bklyndude
bklyndude

@Brendan @harold

Harold is assuming that because the Saints moved up to 20 from 27 and Arizona took Bucannon,  the Jets could have accepted that deal and moved down to 27 and drafted Bucannon.

We don't know if Idzik even liked Bucannon.  He may have liked Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix but didn't want to risk losing both players.

NYCPEinGermany
NYCPEinGermany

@a57se

Yes, A57 - of course my statement stands for EVERY situation/circumstance that ever occurred since the beginning of time.

I also did mention 'after the top three' were gone. If the top QBs were gone when we picked in 83, center (or another position) might not've been a bad option, though QB is a different animal then every other position, IMO. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Great contribution, 57. Nothing like mocking a well liked TJBer's opinion without offering anything worthy of discussion. 

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@a57se @NYCPEinGermany  


Still lots of options left.    I've been running more simulations and just took Van Noy at 49, then followed with Latimer, Exum, Duvernay-Tardif and TJ Jones through the 4th.   

tsjc68
tsjc68

@MarshRandy @Pat d  Two of these teams up near the top of the second round are probably going to take Carr and Tom Savage, and hilarity shall ensue.

Brian Serviss
Brian Serviss

It would be great if they had a QB or if Hoyer is the starting QB

tsjc68
tsjc68

@WW85 @tsjc68 @MarshRandy @Brendan  I think Pettine had no choice.  I think the reason Pettine is the Cleveland coach as opposed to everyone else they were interested in is he's the guy who said "Yes" to the question "Would you be okay with us giving you Johnny Manziel as your 2014 quarterback?"

Brendan
Brendan

@WW85 Well, your problem is you think Pettine had a say in this. 

Brendan
Brendan

@bklyndude He also said he likes Tanny's style better, so there's that. 

bklyndude
bklyndude

@Brendan @a57se

He's just mad at Idzik for not trading away picks to move up for Beckham. 

You know Buffalo was willing to mortgage their future because this is such a good WR class and Buffalo is so smart.

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@tsjc68 @Brendan @Hazard2012  


Like it!  Getting either Archer or DAT in this draft is a top priority, imo.  Like parking a quality OL like Thomas on IR for next year.   I know you like Cockrell (like I like Moncrief), but I'd still take Exum there if I could instead.   

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Brendan @Hazard2012  

#49 KVN

#80 Latimer/Moncreif/Landry/Adams/Matthews/T.J. Jones

#104 Archer/Thomas

#114 Ross Cookrell

#137 Brandon Thomas

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@Brendan @Hazard2012  


So would I, though must admit I could have taken Moncrief there instead of Latimer and, knowing how I like Donte, would have in the real world. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Hazard2012 If they get Van Noy and Latimer I will start kissing strangers. 

a57se
a57se

@Cordell C  

Blackmon had tons of red flags coming out of college......it wasn;t and hasn't been a surprise.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Cordell C  Yup.


Still, they walked away from 14 years worth of 1st and second round picks with Luke Joeckel, Blake Gabbert, Suspended Justin Blackmon, and two Day 3 picks this Saturday.


That's just pathetic.

Cordell C
Cordell C

TO be fair Blackmon is a talent they couldn't have predicted the suspensions

tsjc68
tsjc68

@WW85 @bklyndude  Odell Beckham or Brandin Cooks would have helped as much as Sammy would have, and the Bills would have been able to keep their 2015 1st and 4th rounders.

WW85
WW85

@bklyndude Sammy Watkins will help EJ or any QB tremendously. The Bills are basically an averageish team right now & this makes them better.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@WW85 @tsjc68  Yeah, what makes the Bortles pick so egregious isn't just that they made a horrible reach on a very flawed QB prospect because they got enticed by his measurables and upside and completely glossed over the glaring flaws in his gametape...


... it's that they did so immediately after wasting the past three years on Blaine Gabbert, the EXACT SAME TYPE OF SITUATION.


If there's ANY NFL team who should know better with Blake Bortles, it's the Jags.  And yet, they learned NOTHING, even after all the mistakes they just suffered through.


Disgusting.

WW85
WW85

@tsjc68 Horrible. But at least Watkins will contribute. Bortles will be running for his life for 3 years & then get quietly cut

tsjc68
tsjc68

@WW85 @tsjc68  The Bills spending THREE TOP 120 picks to get Sammy Watkins instead of spending just one to get Odell Beckham or Brandon Cooks... yeah, that's pretty freaking stupid.

WW85
WW85

@tsjc68 This pick is much worse than the others just because the talent in the top 10 was so insanely obvious & also that Bortles or someone very similar would have been there day 2. Just the most horrendous pick I can ever remember being so obviously horrendous. 


I also thought the Bills giving up their 2015 #1 was horrible but tat least Watkins will be a good fit.

bklyndude
bklyndude

@tsjc68 @MarshRandy @Pat d

This explains a lot.  

It's hard to miss on so many players given that they are always picking so high.

MarshRandy
MarshRandy

@tsjc68 it's kind of surprising because it seemed like they were getting on the right track. Back to square negative 50

tsjc68
tsjc68

@MarshRandy @tsjc68 @Pat d  In 2001 and 2002, the Jags took two stellar DTs in back-to-back drafts (Big John Henderson and Marcus Stroud).  Here's what they've done since then:


-Drafted Byron Leftwich immediately before Jordan Gross, Kevin Williams, Terrell Suggs, and Marcus Trufant

-drafted Reggie Williams in the top 10

- drafted Matt Jones, the Colt Lyerla of quarterbacks, at #26 and moved him to WR

- drafted Marcedes Lewis one pick before Nick Mangold (and 60 picks before Owen Daniels)

- drafted Reggie Nelson 

-drafted Derrick Harvey at #8 overall and then, 40 picks later, went DE again, taking Quentin Groves at #52

- drafted Eugene Monroe

- took Tyson Alualu #10 overall

- drafted Blaine Gabbert over Andy Dalton and Colin Kaepernick

- drafted Justin Blackmon

- drafted Luke Joeckel at #2 overall, even though the best player they had on their roster was LT Eugene Monroe whom they just drafted three years prior

- traded Eugene Monroe for two Day 3 draft picks

- drafted Blaine Gabbert again


That's 14 years of high draft picks, only three of which haven't been total disasters (Nelson, Monroe, and Blackmon) and of those three non-disasters, two are already off the team altogether and the third might spend more time on the suspension list than the active roster as the football version of Steve Howe.


Never change, Jaguars.  Never change.

WW85
WW85

@MarshRandy What? You don't think Bortles is better than Mack, Matthews, Evans, Gilbert, Ebron, Lewan???  Jax could have taken him in rd 2 probably. 

MarshRandy
MarshRandy

@tsjc68 @MarshRandy @Pat d  I'm still laughing at the Bortles pick. What a disaster. Apparently Jax had Bortles higher than Clowney on their board....