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Can Stephen Hill’s knees impact the Jets WR competition?

Jets wide receiver Stephen Hill recently was featured by ESPN NY’s Jane McManus as he fights for his place on the Jets roster.  Other than adjusting to the NFL game and working with quarterbacks in varying stages of their career, one of Hill’s biggest setbacks has been the health of his knees.

So far those knees haven’t been a problem, will that factor influence Hill’s ability to impact this roster?

Via McManus on ESPN.com.

Hill didn’t have surgery this offseason, but said he spent the offseason strengthening the muscles around his knees and doesn’t expect the issue to reappear. It was Hill’s left knee last year, and both knees his rookie year. In both seasons, Hill was placed on the injured reserve because of knee injuries.

“My knee actually feels better than it did last year,” Hill said. “Because last year I didn’t take a lot of OTA reps and I went all through OTAs and now minicamp, so right now I feel strictly 100 percent.”

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

This year’s roster is deeper than ever before, but at the same time lacks much in the way of historically productive NFL standard-bearers.  Eric Decker will headline the group and Jeremy Kerley will ably complement Decker from the slot.  David Nelson came on strong as an in-season pickup.  Saalim Hakim’s speed is tempting and Greg Salas and Michael Campbell both looked good during the 2013 preseason.  Clyde Gates and Jacoby Ford will be in the mix for special teams work, but maybe little else.  In addition, the team has three May draftees in Jalen Saunders, Shaquelle Evens and Quincy Enunwa.  Expect at least two of those draftees to be picked up on the final roster.

There’s talent and depth, but it’s the lack of proven production that will take the league by surprise this fall.  This camp battle for the receivers should be one of the team’s best in recent memory.




115 comments
machoking
machoking

He's not even looking at the ball in this picture.... this friggin guy!

j_spikett
j_spikett

hill is a perfect example of why a you have to be more than fast and tall to be a WR. the most important thing you have to have is the ability to catch and the ability to judge the ball as it is in the air. another important quality is toughness. hill falls short on all three.

Mark Rawden
Mark Rawden

His knees aren't the reason for him dropping passes all the time. Hell, look at the picture, he's not even looking at the ball. 

j_spikett
j_spikett

hill is a BUST. he will be released I'm sure. they took 4 receivers in the draft so I'm sure they are not counting on him to be on the team.

hitchhiker
hitchhiker

After Decker, Kerley, & Nelson, the battle for WR roster spots will be FIERCE this summer. I'm looking forward to seeing the competition go down!

D
D

Im am curious to see what happens with him.  We have the best WR group we have had in a very long time. This group may be better than the FLY BOYS aka, Cotch, Bsmith, Santonio, and Braylon. Only time will tell. 

Kerley is a very good slot receiver and it will be good to see him not have to reach and step out of that role do to the shortage of quality wr's we had last year. Decker is border line a #1 but is very solid. Nelson is making the team.  Shaq Evans, and the kid from Nebraska, Quincy Enunwa are interesting because they are physical tall and have very good speed.


The point is all the additions takes pressure off him and all he has to do is stay healthy.  He showed glimpses of potential and im curious to see what he can do with a real group around him.  However, its clear he is on thin ice. 

marcus81
marcus81

yeah but Hill didn't drop any balls when Vinny threw him the ball, you gotta keep him

Tequila Joe
Tequila Joe

Demaryius Thomas a fellow yellow jacket didn't exactly light it up his first two years either. I'm not saying Hill will become Thomas (thomas was a much more productive college WR) but you never know. I have been highly critical of Hill but I am rooting for him. If he can learn to catch the ball he has a chance. His measurable's right now are really similar to Thomas' as well. Cross your fingers. The Thomas/Decker combo was pretty legit, wouldn't it be something to see a Hill/Decker combo putting up those kind of numbers. Of course that has a lot to do with Geno's progress as well. 

Robert Epperly
Robert Epperly

@Mark Rawden Good catch, he isn't looking at the ball. LOL. I noticed Hill last year played with determination and caught everything in sight. The QB's just did not trust him enough to through him more passes.

BDarc23
BDarc23

Could be. I'm still not ready to give up on him though.

D
D

@idothis2 all the draft picks and the decker signing should help him

Tequila Joe
Tequila Joe

@marcus81 Catching the ball in practice and when the lights come on is completely different. Rule of thumb: you need to do something at least 10,000 times before you get great at it. The fact that Hill only caught 49 passes in college is what really hampered his development. What he needs to do is eat, sleep and @#$$ catching a football 24 hours a day. He should give his mailman a ball, his neghbors a ball, his wife if he's married, the paper boy and everyone else he knows a football and every time they see him he should be going out for a catch. He'll be ready to go in no time.

tsjc68
tsjc68

Even if he never becomes DT he can still grow into a very good, useful member of a WR corps.

Like, I'd love it if he became AJ Green but I wouldn't be mad if he only became Marvin Jones or Mohamed Sanu, those guys still have value as complementary options that the defense has to worry about.

harold
harold

@Tequila Joe 


I know you aren't a huge Hill supporter glad to see you may give him a chance.  Look at the clips I posted.  He is actually catching the ball like an NFL WR.  I know it is just drills.  But that is where champions are built.

Brendan
Brendan

@harold Yeah, he's definitely catching with his hands in those drills. Hopefully he continues that when he's boxing out a smaller CB, that play could be butter for him. 

idothis2
idothis2

@D I think the coaches should implement a no body catch rule for Hill where he is penalized for not catching with his hands even in games. It may seem a little preschool, but it may force him to catch with his hands so it becomes 2nd nature.

harold
harold

@Tequila Joe @marcus81 


Hill has been a hard worker since he got here.  He went to Sanchez's and Geno's camp last year.  Went down to Fl with Geno again this year.  Just loves to play by all accounts.  He has been unlucky.


If he gets his confidence up and doesn't have to think and can let his natural skills come through he will be fine.


Note I said his best catching in the Pros.


But in college he did this... First few catches are really high quality


http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=stepehen+hill+college+highlights&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=0996C2BA3EB67E261E440996C2BA3EB67E261E44



harold
harold

@tsjc68 


I think Willie Gault or Alvin Harper.  That is how I see him.  Maybe never dynamic #1 but a very good big play WR who can be a high level threat/#2 in the pass game. 


And if he can become more all the better.

Tequila Joe
Tequila Joe

@harold @Tequila Joe I want nothing more than for him to become a legit starting WR. I really want to be wrong about him. I never liked the pick in the first place and his initial play has justified my frustration, but I do hope we get to see film like that during the regular season.

harold
harold

@Brendan @harold 


That second catch made me dream just a little, now if as you said he does it with defenders draped on him like the other big WR's do we will have a really good player on our hands.

Marty Luc
Marty Luc

@idothis2 so you want the jets to TAKE money AWAY from hill even when he MAKES a catch?? 


because he didn't make the catch the way it's taught in the football textbook?


seems a little harsh, no?


penalize a guy when he does something wrong is agreeable.


penalize a guy when he does something unconventional but nevertheless correct, is wrong in my book.

jdb4
jdb4

@harold @Tequila Joe @marcus81 

It reminds me a bit of Gerald McCoy.  Gerald worked his ass off his first two seasons, but tore his bicep both of his first two seasons.  He never quit though and once he was healthy he has become one of the best DT in the game.


Point being that injuries really mask how good a player can be.  I'm optimistic Hill will put on a show this season.

maynard
maynard

@Hanknaples @Brendan @harold Short memories on guys like you. When drafted everyone knew it would take 2 yrs minimum for him to become  a Pro receiver.  That time table was slowed by injuries. if he is injury free you have a 3rd yr player with height , speed,  whose learned the route tree.   problem with jet "fans" loike hank is they need immediate gratification, have no patience and are prone to hyperbole. if he's as healthy as they say, he will make the team and then be evaluated on performance. if he realizes his potential 9and his work ethic seems to show he will) we have a receiver for a long time. If he drops, gets injured and just doesn't we move on.


idothis2
idothis2

@Marty Luc where did I say anything about taking his money? penalizing isn't limited to just money.

harold
harold

@jdb4 @harold @Tequila Joe @marcus81 


People forget Tim Brown had early injury issues and became a legend.  Don't write off young guys with this much talent based on injury alone.  He is getting better and hopefully he becomes a big factor for us.

tsjc68
tsjc68

Provided that he can actually move past those injuries and they're not just chronic, yes.

tsjc68
tsjc68

No true Scotsman.

harold
harold

@Hanknaples @Brendan 


Are you being serious?  Gates has had more chances then most.  He has lost us more games than he has won.  Hill at least can say he helped us win a couple games against the Bills

Brendan
Brendan

@harold Tread lightly, Harold, you're in the Hankzone. 

tsjc68
tsjc68

Again, when you have nothing to say because you've been hoisted on your own petard, you regress into petulant, weak, hamfisted name calling.

All you do here, daily, is embarrass yourself and annoy loyal listeners.

harold
harold

@Hanknaples @harold @Brendan 


I am relaxed just think Gates has been given chances with two different teams and has produced less than Hill.  Not sure there is much else to say.

harold
harold

@Brendan @harold 


I don't usually get in these insane battles.  Maybe I am just bored tonight...lol

Brendan
Brendan

@harold He's also been in the league a year longer than Hill has. 

tsjc68
tsjc68

I'll send my elementary school G&T mentor a thank you card for my extensive idiomatic vocabulary per your request, Hank. She's semi-retired now, teaching English in China last I checked.

tsjc68
tsjc68

And alive four years longer.

Tequila Joe
Tequila Joe

@tsjc68 TSJC68, your use of vocabulary is impressive but's borderline hubris and at the very least pedantic.

Brendan
Brendan

@harold Hank doesn't move goalposts, he straps dynamite to them and then still expects you to kick a FG. 

tsjc68
tsjc68

I just legitimately love words. Always did. I talk like this in everyday life, not just here (and most of my jobs have involved writing/talking for a living.)

Why use an acceptable phrase when a better one is available?

harold
harold

@Hanknaples @harold 


You said follow the bouncing ball.  I said watch the moving goalposts of your argument. 

Tequila Joe
Tequila Joe

@tsjc68  It's all good but it comes off a bit ostentatious. You do you. I understand your frustration with people but you don't have to take a  bombastic approach when trying to get your point across. If you really want to make a point make sure it's understood by all. The point of an argument and/or a conversation is conveying a point, not to show off your skill.

tsjc68
tsjc68

Heh.

No, my mentor was just a talented educator. I was fortunate enough to grow up in a well-resourced school district that just provided kids those things, free of charge, if necessary.

I even got to do a few years of Spanish instruction in one-on-one independent study, which was fantastic. (Regrettably I never used it after that so I lost most of it, which sucks).

It's impressive what normal schools can produce if we just give them adequate financial support.

tsjc68
tsjc68

To be fair, I think the only person here unlikely to understand the phrase "hoisted on your own petard" is Hank, who has general comprehension issues anyway. I may use flowery prose but I think I'm still generally understood by the non-insane.

Tequila Joe
Tequila Joe

@Hanknaples Drop a shot of tequilla in a beer and chug...Be careful though it can creep up on you...