Coaching Staff Update: Everyone retained, LB coach replaced, STC job still vacant

It’s beginning to look like things will fall into place now that the ink is dry on Rex Ryan’s extension.

UPDATE: The Jets have now officially announced the current position. Essentially everyone returns in the same role with Bobby April III promoted to linebackers coach to replace Brian VanGorder and the special teams coordinator role currently vacant.

Bent, TheJetsBlog.com

While it looks like the staff will remain mostly intact, it’s as yet unknown whether everyone will be returning in the same role. Adding further intrigue to Bassett’s previous reports that the Jets had (or have) some level of interest in Defensive Backs Coaches Kris Richard of Seattle and Teryl Austin of Baltimore is a report that the Jets asked (and were denied) permission to speak to Redskins defensive coordinator Jim Haslett. (Note: Austin just become the Lions’ new defensive coordinator and the Redskins are reportedly keeping Haslett in his current role despite rumors his job might be in jeopardy).

The only departure so far has been special teams coach Ben Kotwica, who moved on to Washington and linebackers coach Brian VanGorder who took a defensive coordinator job with Notre Dame.




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UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

Time for my morning workout..... going down all those grueling store aisles for my game day snacks and beer, I am a workout warrior, lol 

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

The Jets 40m in cap space, 11 draft picks, a growing young QB, and now continuity with the coaches being re-signed, we are coming baby!

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

Great news with the coaches! This is great for the young Dline and even more of an impact for Geno having continuity. Now lets get ready for some great football today baby!

HomeoftheJets
HomeoftheJets

Mcdonald was a Rex hire not Idzik he's an up and coming coach within the league and the talent he had to work with wasn't that fair for a first year man, I expect him back considering Austin from Baltimore left for Detroit and Richard won't leave seattle to come to us. SanJay Lal is another great coach who did a good job in Oakland and came here for more stability. Considering he's had no receivers to work with its very easy to say he's done a bad job, but honestly he hasn't had much to work with. If you think Stephan Hill is someone to work with then your a comical football fan. 


@HomeoftheJets

MetFanSince68
MetFanSince68

How about Mike Pope for TE coach? I think he is more qualify than Steve Hagen.

harvlis
harvlis

Isn't it the way of the world, the Jets want to interview the Seattle D back coach.  He has dynamic players and suddenly he is a hot commodity.  I wouldn't know whether he is a good coach or not but, the Jets should make sure that the success of the coach is due to the coach and not the players.  They credited Tony Sparano with the Wildcat, when he wouldn't know a wildcat from a house cat.  Sparano had zero experience as an OC and we wasted a season with him.  Let's hope Idzik does a better job with coaches than Tanny. 

roto22
roto22

What u thinking about mike singlterr as lb. Coach yes or no

thehelmet
thehelmet

Get Westhoff back and I'll be really excited

a57se
a57se

Everybody getting ready for the E-W Shrine Game? Get a look at Jimmy Garrapolo of Eastern Illinois! Looks a little like Vinny T!

frustjetfn
frustjetfn

Dunbar was the priority here and Lynn was nice to have, but as far as Thurman is concerned, I agree with the critics who said more value can be added by bringing in an outside heavy. since Rex is calling all the shots on D and Dennis is an echo bringing no new perspective, Rex can use another voice to inspire his creativity, Other than support, I just don't see Thurman as value-added. Dennis, in turn, should move on another team and system, to become a DC (ala Pettine) and latter on maybe HC.

funkymonk
funkymonk

I hope the "Lal is expected back" is false. I've seen zero development of our young WRs over the past 2 seasons (not willing to credit him with Kerley). Surely there's a better WR coach out there.

dylan_f
dylan_f

I guess Lynn's return means the Jets won't spend on an established assistant coach (unless Lynn gets a reduction in title). Oh well.

Bent
Bent moderator

@jake100 You said that last week too.

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@jaygo 


I don't care what anyone says including some beat writers, as long as the Jets move in the right direction AND THEY ARE!  We groove in 14!

levi
levi

@HomeoftheJets I wouldnt say San Jay has done a bad job but his group hasnt done well and whether thats the talent he has to work with or not I dont know. I dont think his WRs did that well in Oakland either and I believe they had a talented group. Although its hard to say because both teams had crappy QBs throwing the ball. Im certainly not upset that hes coming back but he was one I wasnt worried about losing either.

Bent
Bent moderator

@bob Again - nobody picks the Jets!

Peter Whelan
Peter Whelan

I'd say he has a good start with Marty M.

Bent
Bent moderator

@harvlis  Sparano wasn't hired because they erroneously felt he deserved credit for the wildcat, he was hired because he was a respected OL coach long before the wildcat days under Parcells, who is close to Tannenbaum.  The Wildcat angle was played up by media guys who haven't got a clue what they're talking about.


Besides, everyone knows that David Lee - who is a Jet coach and deserves to be although that has nothing to do with the wildcat - was the guy who really brought it to prominence at Arkansas and he was on Sparano's staff.


If Richard is a good coach, then Idzik would have some idea because they would know each other well having worked in the same organization.

Bent
Bent moderator

@frustjetfn It will be interesting to see if Tim McDonald (who I believe is under contract still) is back as DB coach.  I got the sense there was a disconnect in styles between McDonald and Thurman, whose job he took over.  In that respect, McDonald could be seen as an Idzik original and Thurman a Rex guy, so maybe it is important that Thurman returns.  If McDonald does not, that could be an even bigger positive for Rex.

a57se
a57se

@frustjetfn 

You have no clue what Thurman does or doesn't do yet you make this claims as if it is fact! 

Amazing!

bob
bob

Heres my pic.....



I like what John Izik told all the player's about the Jets management  in the locker room after winning the Miami game to end of season he said.  



Where confident we know what where capible of doing and we know where we are going.



I say ooh dats a good one...







harvlis
harvlis

@Bent@harvlis Agree, the media took liberties with the wildcat info.  We can only hope that, if they choose Richard, he is a solid coach and not just a friend of Idzik.  In pro sports, sometimes I can't believe the coaching choices.  I will never forget when the Jets chose Rich Kotite.  Ugh.   

juunit
juunit

@Bent@frustjetfn 

Well, seeing how Thurman is a great DB coach. The DBs were terrible after McDonald took over and even McDonald's son who is now in the NFL has poor technique. I'd say McDonald should be fired yesterday. 

a57se
a57se

@Bent@frustjetfn 

I thought MacDonald was interviewed before Idzik got the job and was hired almost immediately after the Idzik hire....

frustjetfn
frustjetfn

@a57se@frustjetfnThanks! An inner circle is an inner circle and we all know Rex is using a hybrid of his father's 50 year old system AND took over calling the D last year. So I'm with the reporters who said that a young innovative voice like that from someone on the Seattle D would help.


Understand, it is NOT an imperative, but if Thurman was the complete DC then why did Rex take over? By doing so Rex diminished Thurman;s value to the team by his own actions.


BTW, I'm not down on Thurman, but I do know group dynamics and if the boss does the job of other team members then he's not letting individuals grow to their full potential. Rex should either let / trust Thurman do the total DC job or bring someone in to do it and "kick' himself upstairs to HC.

funkymonk
funkymonk

@a57se @funkymonk Kerley was on the team before Lal got there, and showed the most talent in 2012, when there was barely an offseason program. On the other hand, Lal was around for the arrivals of Hill / Campbell / Spadola / Hazleton / etc, and didn't get an ounce of on-field performance out of any of them.

Bent
Bent moderator

@jaygo @jake100 JayGo - just wanted to say we appreciate the gambling information you've been sharing with us throughout the season.  Always insightful.

GhostofBrowningNagle
GhostofBrowningNagle

@jake100@jaygobroncos just need to be sure to mix up their signals at halftime so the patriots can't benefit from watching the tape in the locker room ;)

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@jaygo @jake100 

I think the Broncos will win, all they have to do is load the box to stop the run. Brady doesn't have the potent air attack, he lost too many weapons. I actually think the Niners will win. The defenses are close but the niners have the better weapons on offense.  In any event, it will be a great day of football.

Pat d
Pat d

In fantasyland

frustjetfn
frustjetfn

@juunit@Bent@frustjetfnIf you want the best team, playing time, coaches jobs and everything else should be based on performance: not friendship, family, hope, speculation or favorite color. If that's the way you conduct biz, the only people who have a problem with that are those who can't stand on their own. Everyone else respects it and climbs aboard.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent @frustjetfn I don't think you need insider info to be able to state that DT is part of Rex's inner circle and Tim is not, but that does appear to be accuate based on what I've heard.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent @frustjetfn Quite possibly, but he still seems like more of a new regime guy than one of Rex's inner circle.

MetFanSince68
MetFanSince68

@a57se @levi With all due respect to you, Lal was hired by Sparano from Oakland, where he was their receiver's coach. I didn't think he was that good in Oakland, nor was he that good with the Jets. If the Jets plan to draft wide receivers this year, they are going to need someone with a better track record as a receiver coach than Lal. Someone like Mike Groh from the Chicago Bears.  

a57se
a57se

@levi 

I don't know what he has done to 'deserve' coming back but you don't know either.

To just blame poor talent on him isn't fair.

levi
levi

@a57se So you think Lal has done a good job and should be retained? If so could you tell us specifically why and what he has done to deserve such treatment.

a57se
a57se

@funkymonk@a57se 

I think you are being overly critical. We haven't brought in very good talent.....coaches are not miracle workers.

funkymonk
funkymonk

@a57se @funkymonk I understand that, but other teams seem to be able to find productive WRs from the undrafted heap. Rod Streater, Marlon Brown, and Tim Wright are at the top, but lots of teams found guys who even if not great talents, at least provided some level of production. We got absolutely nothing out of any of those guys.

a57se
a57se

@funkymonk@a57se 

You do realize that three of the guys you mention were not even drafted by anyone?


Bent
Bent moderator

@Joe/Orlando @Bent @a57se I think I may have even corrected someone else on the same issue when Lynn was first given that title.  Haha.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Joe/Orlando @Bent @a57se That must be a recent change then, but I see that position coaches are being blocked for coordinator jobs in and around the league so yes that seems accurate.

Joe/Orlando
Joe/Orlando

@Bent @Joe/Orlando @a57se 

I see what you're saying about blocking the Callahan interview,


But you did originally say that the assistant head coach title was one way of protecting an assistant from being poached, which is what I think is incorrect.


Also, I think you are incorrect about the DL coach to DC role example.  I believe that is considered a lateral move by the NFL now because they only make a distinction between assistant coaches and head coach.  I believe that move would require permission now, where at one time it wouldn't have.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Joe/Orlando @Bent @a57se "It" in this context refers to "blocking" interviews, not using an assistant tag.  And remember, when they heinously blocked Callahan (were totally within their rights, remember) the media made out that they were evil.


As for the rules you state, you are correct to state that OC to OC/Asst HC is NOT a promotion.  However, what I was talking about was (for example) if Dunbar was offered a promotion from DL coach to DC then they'd have to let him interview.  However, if he was a DL/Asst HC, then a team wanting to interview him for a DC role could NOT because the assistant HC tag would mean getting a DC role was not a promotion.


Essentially Asst HC and coordinator roles are seen as lateral and therefore on the same level.

Joe/Orlando
Joe/Orlando

@a57se @Joe/Orlando 

Not true.  An assistant can interview for a HC job without permission.  And I believe it used to be that an assistant could interview for a "promotion", which might be to "assistant head coach" without permission.  That is the part that has changed.

a57se
a57se

@Joe/Orlando@a57se 

Teams do not have to allow a coach under contract to interview for anything as far as I know.

Joe/Orlando
Joe/Orlando

@Bent @a57se @Joe/Orlando

How are the Jets made out to be wrong for doing it?  I think you're correct in that it's purely an in-house promotion based on merit because like I said, I don't believe the title offers any protection anymore.

Joe/Orlando
Joe/Orlando

@a57se @Joe/Orlando 

Well, what I think Bent was referring to is if an assistant coach was and OC for example, another team could come along and offer him the OC role and add "Assistant Head Coach" and it would be considered a promotion by the NFL.  Therefore, the current team could not block the interview. However, the rule was changed so that all assistant->assistant moves are considered lateral, so interviews for any such job would require permission.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Joe/Orlando It's one of those things that all teams do because they're well within their rights, but the Jets are the only one who are somehow made out to be in the wrong by doing it.

a57se
a57se

@Joe/Orlando 

I don't think there is any NFL rule about this. 

I may be wrong but I believe clubs usually have their own policy on letting assistants interview for other teams positions. The Jets denied several attempts in the past.

Joe/Orlando
Joe/Orlando

@a57se @Joe/Orlando @Bent 

I'm saying that making Lynn "Assistant Head Coach" no longer matters in terms of other teams poaching him.  At least I believe that is the case.

Joe/Orlando
Joe/Orlando

@Bent @a57se I believe the NFL changed the rule on lateral moves and promotions.  Things like"Assistant Head Coach" no longer matter in terms of whether a job is a promotion or not.  The NFL considers coaches either head coaches or assistants and any move that isn't assistant->HC is considered lateral.

a57se
a57se

@Bent@a57se 

Perhaps but I thought some other team was snooping around back in 2011.......Lynn is a Parcells guy.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent I'm not even sure that's why Lynn has it.  I thought it was kind of wasted on Lynn who I wouldn't have imagined has a lot of demand for his services around the league.  I always thought this was more of a genuine promotion to a bigger in-house role because he's more valued here than on the open market.

a57se
a57se

@Bent@a57se 

Oh, I know what it is used for and that is why Lynn has that role since 2012.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se It's one way of protecting a valued position coach from being poached for a coordinator role.  I don't know if Dunbar has any interest in being a coordinator but he could be a candidate.

a57se
a57se

@Bent@a57se@dylan_f 

Yeah, I didn't get what dylan was commenting about until after I had posted......could have edited my comment to make me look better.
I am not sure why we would want a different assistant HC anyway.......