Could Su’a-Filo be a realistic option for the Jets in round one?

On NFL Network’s analysts’ mock draft, Marshall Faulk raised some eyebrows with his pick for the Jets.

“You want to control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. You need to be able to block for your quarterback. I like Xavier Su’a-Filo,” said Faulk, before referencing the Jets’ first-round pick last season, Dee Milliner. “If I’m a GM and I drafted a corner last year, and you got to see him struggle all year, I just don’t think Su’a-Filo will struggle. It’s kind of a safe pick, but it’s a need as well.”

Two weeks ago, Rotoworld analysts Evan Silva and Josh Norris identified guard as one of the top three needs for the Jets and pegged Su’a-Filo as the top day one option. Earlier this week, TheJetsBlog’s Brian Bassett also named Su’a-Filo as a possible day one option. The Jets did not bring Su’a-Filo in for an official visit but, from what we hear, they do have some interest.

Bent, TheJetsBlog.com

While most mocks seem to have the UCLA guard going in the late first or early second round, he is considered by many to be the top pure guard in this year’s class. Having said that, there are a couple of tackles that are ranked above him who might also project to guard. The Jets may be seeking for an immediate upgrade over Brian Winters, who struggled in his rookie season at left guard, as well as a long term replacement for right guard Willie Colon. The 31-year old Colon signed a one-year deal to remain with the Jets but is coming off a torn biceps injury.

Su’a-Filo is an athletic player who plays with a nasty streak and can protect the passer or get out to the second level. He’s played both at tackle and at guard in college, but looks like a natural on the interior. However, Faulk’s colleague Dave Dameshek reacted to his pick by saying “The boo-birds will never be louder if the Jets take a guard at No. 18.” It may be that the Jets would trade down from 18, or up from 49 back into the first round if they were going to select Su’a-Filo, but we’re interested in your take. Please respond to the poll and expand upon your answers in the comments.




220 comments
harvlis
harvlis

No problem taking an O lineman who can step right in and start. Its not a glamour position but, it is the key to allowing your skill players to be at their best. We could get the best WR in the draft but, if the QB has no time, the receiver will not be able to excel. I'm with Faulk.

damion
damion

The jets dont need to be locked into any one player at 18.....if there moving up for a WR thats a mistake outside of Watkins and Evans no other wide outs warrents moving up. Maybe Just maybe Ebran if he falls out of the top12 then moving up a couple spots is fine with me.

#Tradedown 

jimjets
jimjets

ok, f it. cant stop thinking draft!!!!     guys I'd be happy with -


ebron, dennard, gilbert, amaro, cooks, ODB, lee, the guard with the funky name, michael sam cuz I think thats a cool story and seeing him succeed in NY would be way cool, jeremy attochcoa (or howveer you spell that) best safety available, best prospect qb avilable and whatever depth picks we can use.    NO trading up - yes trading down

SackDance99
SackDance99

Folks here like to talk about Jets draft blunders in the 1st round, like at tight end (Brady, Becht, Mitchell) or RB (Thomas, Vick), but seem to forget the guards Dave Cadigan (1988) and Mike Haight (1986).  In fact, besides Randy Thomas in 1999, it's a position that the Jets have generally missed on for the first 2 rounds.  So, no guards at 18.  If we were talking later in the 1st round and without any skill position players available, I'd be all for an offensive lineman.  But, in a draft this deep at WR and CB in terms of talent, it would be a crime to pass on the best available WR or CB, unless a true stud (a guy generally considered to be in the top 10) falls to 18.  No OG in this draft fits that profile.

greggreen
greggreen

i think its safe to say. i Never wanna draft a guard in the first round. They are failed tackles and this current trend in the nfl, that guards are becoming top 15 talent is absolutely nuts 

boomer
boomer

Can we trade our beat reporters?  I'd package Cimini, Manish and Myers and send them to Jacksonville for a 7th rounder or a bag of practice balls.

Steven Windeler
Steven Windeler

BPA. That is in a grouping. Su’a-Filo has a value in the end of the first round. If all the WRs, TEs, Safeties, and CBs in that group are gone then he should be picked there.

Basically If we can get him from 35 on he would be too good of a value to pass on if there aren't other players as good of a value.

This is why I want to trade down unless someone drops from the top 10 to 18.

Everything seems to be about value for Idzik as seen in the Sheldon pick, and the Revis trade. Hopefully he remains steadfast in this.

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

It's funny that what most consider a sure fire pick at 18 would be a t TE,I personally would view that pick more than all other positions as a wasted pick.Rd 2 would be the earliest I fell a TE should even be considered, I'm partial to rd. 3.

Marcus Armstrong
Marcus Armstrong

Is Steiny gonna come out with the rest of his Jets Interest lists soon? Waiting on those before I put my draft pick guesses in!

BDarc23
BDarc23

I expect that the team is picking a WR or TE, would be a little surprised if it was OL and would be shocked if it was QB or defense

Jeff E. Guy
Jeff E. Guy

@SackDance99   Anthony Becht played in the NFL for eleven years. In whose world is that a "blunder"? It's certainly not in mine.

damion
damion

how about if they took zack martin and moved him to guard?

a57se
a57se

@SackDance99  

If Taylor Lewan falls to 18, you'd be OK with taking him?

tsjc68
tsjc68

@boomer  The bag of balls has more trade value.  Those things aren't free, you know.

bob
bob

@Steven Windeler


If not this year we do need to start rebuilding the o-line with 1st round pics because D- Brick and Mangold are starting to get up there and young strong line man would really help.

Steven Windeler
Steven Windeler

@johnnyl65 I think the TE value will be in the late 2nd, or early 3rd. We would have to make a move to get that value.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Marcus Armstrong  We had some technical issues with this; Wordpress ate a load of data.  Hopefully he can still get a list of some description up, but he'd have to scramble to reinvent the wheel.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Marcus Armstrong  Speaking of guys we might be interested in, I've been perusing the TJB articles over the past week-plus that I missed and caught the Terrence Fede from Marist writeup.


Hadn't scouted him yet (small school guys are so hard to get footage for) but watched the highlight clip and like the upside.  If I made him a late addition to my big board, he'd probably slot somewhere in the 260s in the low teens at DE/DT, like right where I have Kelcy Quarles and Will Clarke.  Intriguing guy, love the size/speed ratios.


Just FYI.

Wilkershakes
Wilkershakes

@BDarc23   We were surprised by the Richardson pick last year, so who knows...I'm leaning to WR or CB.  

SackDance99
SackDance99

@a57se @SackDance99I don't consider him to be a top 10 talent in this draft and I don't know how he would fit on the Jets.  I wouldn't throw my bourbon bottle at the TV, but I wouldn't be pleased.

Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

@tsjc68 @boomer  Would love to hear your thoughts on using one of our 4th round picks on G Brandan Thomas from Clemson? Obviously the knee injury will likely make this a red shirt year but most had him late first-early second round talent wise. From what I've read he projects as a mid 4th to early 6th now due to the injury. Also, how about a guy like CB Aaron Colvin who like Thomas was injured and will likely slip as low as round 6,even though he had 2nd or 3rd round talent? teams like SF and Seattle have had great luck with situations like these lately and for us it would be like getting extra picks in next years draft when there ready to help us.

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@bob @Steven Windeler  


Not only are D'Brick and Nick getting up there but the quality of the rest of the line is suspect, at least.   There's enough depth at OL in this draft and Idzik has enough picks for him to look in this direction; especially if Rex and MM want to rely more on the ground game this year and take some of the pressure off Geno.  


Agree with Steve above re Su'a Filo (and Martin) being value picks late first early second for us; particularly if we've moved back and accumulated a few extra high picks.   Landing a top OL or CB target would be a nice way to spend them.    I do think Lewan might be tempting at 18, however, if he's there and our prime WR's and CB options are gone.



Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

@tsjc68 @Marcus Armstrong  I have seen every home game he's played at Marist as i live in the area and have actually done some scouting and recruiting for them. This kid is the real deal. He's a legit 6-5 270 and with a little patience he can probably play as a 3-4 OLB as he's very athletic. i dont see him as a DT in our present scheme as he's a pure natural 4-3 end with the athletic ability to make the move to 3-4 OLB.

I will be surprised and disappointed if some team doesn't draft him but he will no doubt wind up on a roster as an undrafted F/A  and eventually on sombody's practice squad for a year or so.

Marcus Armstrong
Marcus Armstrong

@tsjc68 @Marcus Armstrong  Aha. His size is a bit questionable to me.. That 270 area is a really weird tweener size for what Rex has been up to lately, but given that we have 3 unmovable 6th rounders, it wouldn't really surprise me to see us walk away with him on the team.

BDarc23
BDarc23

@Marcus Armstrong @BDarc23  I count out nothing as a Jets fan since 83 but I can't see a team that has been the worst passing offense in the league for 2 years going D again

a57se
a57se

@SackDance99 @a57se 

All the talk here is either the Texans trade out of the first pick or they take either Clowney or Mack.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@a57se @SackDance99If you draft Johnny Football, then you have to develop the offense around his talents.  I'm not sure a pure WCO would work.  How the Shanahans used RGIII is a good road map; a read option with less QB running and more designed break-off patterns by the WRs, especially going deep.


He's definitely not what I like in a QB.  Yet, on just the chance that he can do what he did at A&M in the pros is worth the shot.  If I were the Texans, I'd draft him and go all in on him.  Then, if I'm the Rams, I fleece the Falcons for Clowney (their 1st and 2nd rounders this year and a first next year, with a second the year after).

a57se
a57se

@SackDance99 @a57se 

You like Johnny FootBAWL! That is a surprise to me.....he is not your prototypical QB. I guess you like him for a WCO as that is the one offense you make exceptions for.....

I've said if he falls to 18, it would be tough NOT to take him.....

SackDance99
SackDance99

@a57se @SackDance99I skew who I think is a top prospect towards the offensive and defensive skill positions, then defensive linemen.  The only offensive linemen that I would put in the top are LT prospects and I want an LT who can also maul in the running game.  Robinson's in my top 10.  The rest are the usual suspects, except I upgrade CB and I like Johnny Football.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Marcus Armstrong @Bent  We're going to try and get it done between us.  Might have to be somewhat truncated, but we'll do our best.  Current plan is for RB/WR today and OL/QB tomorrow.


Speaking of Steiny, he informs me that the Jets met with Su'a-Filo at the combine, just to get back on topic.

Steven Windeler
Steven Windeler

@Marcus Armstrong @tsjc68 What Rex has been up to "lately" is the key there.

That implies that he used to do things differently, as in Rex finds versatile players and invents positions for them.

That's what he does.

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@tsjc68 @johnnyl65 @Marcus Armstrong @BDarc23  Actually not true Cro weakness in his height is lack of change of direction,which Gilbert is better at with a lower center of gravity and change of direction.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@johnnyl65 @Marcus Armstrong @BDarc23  Except a smaller Cro wouldn't be all that good of a player, since most of Cro's flaws are masked by his exceptional length.


Gilbert is already an extremely dicey CB prospect even before you consider that he likes to play the off-man game that Rex doesn't really prefer.

Marcus Armstrong
Marcus Armstrong

@johnnyl65 @Marcus Armstrong @BDarc23  Can't (Or worse, doesn't) tackle, has really bad instincts for the position, and meh ball skills. Great athlete, but he doesn't have the technique (or from what I saw, the willingness to play) CB.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Marcus Armstrong @BDarc23  That.


There will be starter-caliber WR prospects still on the board at R3#80, giving us a chance to gamble and go elsewhere with early picks.

Marcus Armstrong
Marcus Armstrong

@BDarc23 @Marcus Armstrong  There's a clear upper tier of CBs that aren't going to make it to 49. This WR class is absurdly deep, so I think it could make some sense to target 49 and 80 for pass catchers, and give 18 to the D.