Daily Links: Are we all in agreement?

  • Five SB panelists, including three ex-Jets, agree Sanchez should go [ESPN NY]
  • Winslow should avoid suspension [Star Ledger]
  • Is Mike Vick a fit as a potential week one stopgap starter for Jets? [NFL.com]
  • Joe Namath plagued by health issues resulting from concussions [NY Daily News]
  • Ex-Jet Marquice Cole acting as unofficial tour guide for Broncos [The Record]
  • Beverly: Thinking back to SBIII “never gets old” [Randy's Radar]



129 comments
frustjetfn
frustjetfn

What a mess: Sanchez should go, but he's the best and only proven NFL QB on the team. As GM, it's up to Idzik to clear up this mess and after a year's grace period he must step up / show his stuff this year.

So will he let the team hang with an unproven, inconsistent second rounder or will he take deliberate steps to improve the most important position on his team? We've all seen he's so low key he makes Woody seem like Mohammed Ali in comparison, but is there clear, concise, analytical decision making in his make-up? We'll soon find out. A GM can't hide forever; especially in the media capital of the world.

a57se
a57se

Would you trade this years 2nd round pick and a conditional 3rd round pick in 2015 to the Pittsburgh Steelers for Ben Roethlisberger?

levi
levi

Should we bring back Winslow? Geno seemed to have good chemistry with him.

a57se
a57se

I don't see any good options for the Jets at QB unless they try and trade for Rapistberger.........There have been some rumors that Pittsburgh would be amenable to moving their resident Rapist as his contract is coming up.

Even doing something like that would leave me conflicted as I can't stand the guy but realize he would be a huge upgrade.


Besides that unlikely scenario, I am not that keen on bringing in some 30+ something guy to have as a back-up in case Geno craps the bed in 2014. He doesn't need a mentor who can't play, he has coaches that he should be relying on.

I'd rather spend a late round pick on a developmental QB and continue coaching up SImms and Geno. Let's see how much progress Geno can make with another off-season program under his belt and more hard work with David Lee.

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

Brendan and I lock horns on this game Sunday. I say a powerful offense in a O friendly league, will be too much for the Hawks. Brendan stands by his Defense wins championships, we shall see. It will be one hell of a game.

Brendan
Brendan

@frustjetfn  I will never understand how people act like he didn't do anything in the past 12 months. 

frustjetfn
frustjetfn

@a57se Yes. I'm not a Big Ben fan, but the S@B gets the job done by being impossible to bring down (i.e. extending plays). I do think Garoppolo could be the same type of QB on the NFL level and while not my favorite in the draft, should be available.

levi
levi

@a57se  Thats an awful lot to give up for a back up QB. Geno is the starter.

frustjetfn
frustjetfn

@a57se Interesting. If the Bucs go all in for Carr & have no ties to Mike Glennon, I'd pull him in if I had the chance & let him compete w/Geno. I liked his attributes (huge, strong arm, game smarts) going into last year's draft & now he has some pro games under his belt. - In the wild & crazy GM-changing NFL, you never know who'll become available. Stranger things have happened.

a57se
a57se

@levi  

NO. We don't need Pee Wee Herman on the team.

frustjetfn
frustjetfn

@Brendan @frustjetfnIt's not all or nothing. He did what he could under severe constraints, but this year is when he has enough freedom to put his stamp on the Idzik regime.

Brendan
Brendan

@frustjetfn You are not getting a SB champion QB in his prime without giving up a 1st. 100 out of 100 people should answer yes to that question, but that's like asking if I'd like a free million dollars. 

frustjetfn
frustjetfn

@levi @a57seBased on what, blind belief that he will develop into something special? Too bad the NFL still keeps score and W-L records count. A team's success is based on production on the field, not belief. No way Geno is a proven NFL caliber starter at this time.

bradysucks
bradysucks

I'd bring back Winslow if he takes the veteran minimum. He is a talented receiver and should the Jets draft a guy like Ebron at TE I'd be all for a 2 TE set with Winslow and Ebron. That is a tough match up for a defense and would help open thing up for the wideouts

levi
levi

@a57se Haha I wonder if anyone will sign him...

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@jaygo @a57se  We are going to compete at every position,no one will be handed a starting position they will have to earn it.

                                                                                         John Idzik

a57se
a57se

@jaygo

What is your beef here? My comment that you just responded to or the past?

I basically said we should see how much Geno progresses this year and you have a problem with that?

Pat d
Pat d

If the officials let the Seahawks play they will win. In fact it could be a blow out of at least 14 points

Brendan
Brendan

@jaygo Lynch will be a man possessed. They are going to be showing him photos of a swimming pool filled with Skittles all game on the sideline. Run, baby, run!

Brendan
Brendan

@frustjetfn Right, so why can't we give him credit for the good work he did under severe constraints? That's just as important to a GM's skillset as "how do you spent a crapload of draft picks and free cap space," no? 

a57se
a57se

@SackDance99 @a57se

Fair points all, so what would you think the Steelers would take for him?

They may not want to pay him what he thinks he is worth........I posted a link to a report from Charlie Campbell about Ratface and the Steelers....they may just want to move him and get what they can.....what do you think he is worth?

SackDance99
SackDance99

@a57se @Brendan@frustjetfnBig Ben has been in 3 SBs, won 2 and is by anyone's measure an elite NFL QB.  Alex Smith?  No comparison between the two and I was pounding the table for the Jets to trade for Alex last year.

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @frustjetfn 

That may be true but it is the same basic deal SF took from KC. Ratface is in the last year of his contract as well as having a history of being accused of rape.

Joe De Sr.
Joe De Sr.

The Jets will never be a winner with Geno at QB !

harold
harold

@levi @frustjetfn


I doubt very seriously the Steelers will trade Ben without getting at least one and maybe two first round picks in return.

levi
levi

@frustjetfn Yes, it was a joke. Ben is a good QB and would certainly be an upgrade. That being said I wish the Jets could get there own QB and develop him. Im not saying thats Geno Im just saying I want my own QB not some guy who will always be known as the rapist who won a SB in Pittsburgh.

frustjetfn
frustjetfn

@a57se @frustjetfn@leviLOL. I sure hope so, but there are some blind faithful who believe any story line the team is forced to sell because they have no other options. We dedicated fans have to be the ones to hold management's feet to the fire & keep them striving for a winner. - I admit, true believers / unquestioning minds / lemmings scare me. :)

Pat d
Pat d

Actually I don't see many sacks. With pressure up front and disrupting the receivers at the line is what is needed from the Seahawks D.

a57se
a57se

@Pat d  

You think their defense is that good? Unless they are sacking Manning left and right, I don't see a blow out happening.

a57se
a57se

@Pat d  

The Denver O is nothing like the 49'ers O. 

Pat d
Pat d

The Denver D is nothing like the 49ers D. I laugh when people say if it wasn't for this play then they wouldn't have won

a57se
a57se

@jake100

Hey Joey, doesn't that sound just like the Jets rushing offense in 2009 when they led the league?

Brendan
Brendan

@jaygo Lynch is one of the few non-QB's who can go into a zone that normal humans don't have and just win a game on his own. Not "on his own" literally, but he can have such a tremendous, clock-eating, tackle-breaking, yard-grinding, back-breaking performance that it breaks the will of the Broncos and thus, their chance at winning. 


Very few players are in this category that don't touch the ball every play. 


It will be really fun to see how the defenses hold up. Both teams know what the other wants to do, it'll be a battle of wills out there. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 But since you can't eliminate a 58 yard run, he didn't average 2.5 yards. 


Chip away at an elite run defense with a guy like Lynch and it starts to crack. He's too big, too fast and too agile. 

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@Brendan @jaygo  

The Denver run D is no joke, they rank one notch better than the Hawks. If not for the Lynch 58 yard run, he would have only averaged about 2.5 yds per carry vs the Niners.