Daily Links: Awesome sauce

  • Giacomini says CJ could be a 2,000-yard back again [SI]
  • Brick is the Jets fourth most important player [NJ.com]
  • Projected roster [ESPN New York]
  • Football Outsiders pick the Jets to regress [GGN]
  • Jets’ movie night was “awesome” [Newsday]
  • Jets camp is not just for football fans [SUNY Cortland News]



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MoSacks MoSnacks
MoSacks MoSnacks

There goes Cimini with such a safe roster prediction, not that I disagree with him lol. Although, I really don't understand why he excluded Trevor Reilly. No offense to McIntyre, but based on the analysis of Reilly he seems to have more upside with regard to pass rushing than McIntyre, especially when used in a pass rush package, which is likely all that either of them will be deployed to do.

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

Tis true, there are as many good outcomes as poor, but the bulk rests on the QB position and second, Milliner at CB so Rex has more flexibility with his defense..  


No doubt, the dline will be a huge help to the Dbacks, but we need the defensive intermediate zone to cover well against those quick 3 step drops, perimeter coverage and against the spread offense. That area is a little slow in coverage so it is worth keeping an eye on.  Offenses will be getting rid of the ball fast against us and using quick short to intermediate passes due to our dline and run defense, with occasional long passes to keep our defense honest, our coverage will be tested. Our LBs are not known for pass coverage and aside from Pryor who will be learning as a rookie, our safety's are also not know for solid coverage although Allen is looking good..


On the offensive side, as long as the Rbs stay healthy we have a very formidable run game, but the big question is the oline. If the oline struggles all will be for naught!


Hopefully, STs will be significantly improved, because the last couple of years it has slipped. The offense needs the field position as well as the defense, as our games will be close struggles and that can make the difference.


Like I have said and we all know, this season has many questions, more than in years past and can go either way. This season will be awesome and full of excitement and the unknown. 


To sum it up, as long as the line plays consistent and Geno takes the next step, and the two go together, we have a real chance at a post season. Also, the secondary must pull its weight. I remember what Mo said, and that was" they need to cover so we can get to the qb." He was not throwing anyone under the bus as he stated ALL must play together. The key veterans must beat father time as we have a young inexperienced team, so the vets will be instrumental in how the team performs. Lastly, lets hope we beat the odds with a few key players who are injury prone. I am ready to roll!


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Brendan
Brendan

FO predicted the Jets to be worse than the 5-6 win predictions the typical media was giving. 


I appreciate their work and I reference it all the time, but I think this is a case where the unquantifiable plays too big a role, and by that I mean Rex and the coaching staff. This is pretty much an All-Star team of NFL coaches, with guys respected league-wide on both sides of the ball. I think that's a big reason why the team wins close games. The team is very good at adjusting on the fly (offensively less-so, but hopefully that continues to change) and Rex could motivate the players in a way that is apparently matched by a small number of coaches. Guys play above themselves consistently on defense and the idea should be that Marty can do the same once he gets some consistency at QB. 


The main issue I have with this prediction, now, is that Geno could be either version of his '13 self. He could protect the ball and plays in the redzone, or he can be the guy who turned it over more often than not and hindered whatever progress the defense could make. I also think it's fair to make the argument that better Geno means more sustained drives, which means fresher defense, which means no more watching guys gassed in the middle of the 3rd chasing WR's around because the defense has been on the field for 2/3 of the game. 


The turnover margin is likely to regress, which is a huge net-positive. The team was unlucky in fumble recoveries last year and if Geno plays like he did in December, that margin could actually flip. The team has targeted defensive players with ball skills and turnover-producing potential (Pryor and McDougle, Patterson) and their DL with a healthy Coples and Barnes will force more poor throws creating more opportunities. 


The team has questions, certainly, but for as many bad outcomes there are just as many good ones. It's more likely that we get a bit of both, and the entire thing hinges on whether Geno can be a good answer to one of the most important questions facing the team this year. Predicting wins before Geno's put pads on is premature. 

Steven Windeler
Steven Windeler

Are you talking about Francesca's new inside man in the Jets organization?

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Bent
Bent moderator

@UncleJoesJetFarm


Interesting and indeed stupid.


Who does he think he is telling the Jets how to develop Mo?


They've done an amazing job of that so far, why the hell would they listen to this drivel?


The last five weeks coincided with Richardson hurting his shoulder and a rise in double team attention for Mo.  Also to suggest he wasn't still performing at a high level in the passing game is off-base because weeks 16-17 was his best two-week period for total pressures apart from weeks 2-3.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan Every time the Jets improve from one year to the next, FO rationalizes this as meaning they're going to regress to the mean.


Every time someone else improves from one year to the next, they fall over themselves to find reasons why regression to the mean might not happen for them.

harold
harold

@Brendan

I agree with your main premise on the Jets coaching staff.  It is a high quality staff period.  Rex and his team can coach and one thing rex can not be accused of is underachieving based on the talent he has had.  When he has recieved just adequate QB play the Jets ahve been one of the top teams in the league.

However, I disagree that the defense was somehow on the field too much.  It was a 50/50 split for the season.  The problem with the defense was giving up so many big plays through the air.  If we can limit the big plays and make a few more plays on the ball in the air we should become a playoff team, imo.

harold
harold

@Bent

It is amazing they never give Rex his due as a good coach.  Becuase he will not regress to the mean because he can coach.  So he gets his team to outperform each year.

For the most part I feel Rex is as good The Hoodie.  If you switched QB's I don't see us winning the dvision or making the playoffs anymore than with Rex. 

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@harold I cant remember who did the breakdown, but the D was on the field much too long due to the offense turning the ball over and also not being able to sustain drives. But true, giving up big plays was a huge liability and it was the most in Rex's Jets tenure ever. All of those things combined to gas the D.

a57se
a57se

@UncleJoesJetFarm @harold 

Your memory is faulty here. A lot of us (me included) felt the Jets D was on the field too long but Bent cleared that up. Harold is correct.

levi
levi

@a57se  Even though they were not on the field as much as most of us thought they were there is a lot more to it than that. 


Its a moral killer when the O keeps giving the other team the ball and also where the turnovers happen often left the D in very bad field position.

Bent
Bent moderator

@levi @a57se The field position that worked against the Jets had nothing to do with offense OR defense, it was down to our lousy special teams.

levi
levi

@Bent  ST's was terrible I give you that but you cant tell me the O turning it over didnt leave the D with short fields to defend.

Bent
Bent moderator

@levi @Bent Yeah, I think I saw some stats that showed that was the case, but at the same time they gave up quite a few defensive and special teams scores which means the defense doesn't get on the field at all, the other team scores and then the offense is back out there.

harold
harold

@Levi

Special Teams lost us the New England game even more than Geno's late picks. 

We couldn't even put someone back to field punts.  Sad!!

harold
harold

@Bent @UncleJoesJetFarm @a57se

All the big plays allowed by the defense can bring down the morale of the offense as well. 

It is a Two Way Street!

levi
levi

@harold Special Teams also won the other New England game for us. But Im not arguing that ST's was good. They were the worst that Jets fans have seen in quite some time.

harold
harold

@levi

How did special teams win the other game?  I don't remember anything specific. 

The coaches alerted the official about New England pushing players.  That's not special teams winning that game.