Daily Links: Bowl Game

  • JPP: Giants ready to make a Snoopy Bowl ‘statement’ [New York Post]
  • Rex, Giants RB Spice Up ‘Snoopy Bowl’ Rivalry [New York Times]
  • Saunders sheds little light on incident [ESPN NY]
  • Jets Training Camp Starting To Wind Down [Jets Insider]
  • Rex Ryan on Antonio Allen and the WR Competition [The J-E-T Press]
  • Rex Ryan shrugs off Bengals’ criticism of his late blitzes [NY Daily News]



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Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se I reckon as of right now, I agree with you 100% on the defense (and note that all Brendan's comments were about offense).


The waters seems to be settling on that side of the ball.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se I think TBo is winning the FB comp, or at least Young has done nothing to get mentioned by anyone thus far, so maybe he's just winning it by default. And Ford/Saunders might be vying for the same spot, but it'll be interesting if they keep them both. At least the return game will be much improved. 


I could see them cutting a guy like Ijalana or Richardson to make room for Hakim as a STs ace. 


And you dropped Hill? Oh, the humanity. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se Easier than it is to spell it.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se Knew Jones would be the more immediate contributor.  Not sure he has as much upside as Coples though.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se "Converting"


He is going from a 4-3 DE to a 3-4 OLB in a hybrid defense. In reality, he'd doing the same job he did last season with slightly more coverage responsibilities. This is like Coples' move last year, to me. 

J. Smooth
J. Smooth

Absolutely zero way Saunders gets cut. You don't cut a 4th rounder unless he shows he has no game, which isn't the case.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent


Yes, but bear in mind where that take comes from.  Never watched either of them in college, but then watched them extensively in preseason and that's where I knew Jones would contribute sooner.

williamg1
williamg1

@a57se Yep. But I also think it plays to Ninkovich's strengths. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se The Pats, like the Jets, use the nickel as their base, in reality. Both teams use that formation more than any other, iirc. 


FWIW, Jones was only slightly better than Coples in terms of pass rushing productivity last year, but Jones didn't have injury issues to deal with. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @a57se Jones played 434 snaps at linebacker last year.  This is even less of a position change than Coples' was.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent Out of interest, how do you pronounce it?  Everyone seems to get this wrong...it's spelled "SCALLOPS" but pronounced "SCOLLOPS".  The same as "Champing" at the bit which should be pronounced "Chomping".  


Wouldn't be surprised if the American pronounciation in each case is different though.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent


I remember the Jets were linked to him and everyone was like "ugh" but then when I actually saw him play, he looked good almost immediately.

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent "Champing at the bit" is pronounced "chomping" over here, or at least I've heard it used that way. 


Random, but a good buddy of mine is over on your end of the pond this week. Going to games at Tottenham, Man City (vs. Liverpool) and Man U. I'm rather jealous of his trip, especially since we all started an EPL fantasy league this year and he's going to see almost half my players go in person. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent


I'd rather get a free meal.  Probably still was better than anything I'd have cooked myself.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se There was more buzz about Jones than there was over Coples, who wasn't expected to fall to us as I recall.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Bent Haven't been to a soccer game for YEARS.  Can't stand the atmosphere.

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent I'm sure it's not fun when you deal with it a lot, but as a once-in-a-long-while thing it's pretty neat. Seeing Man City/Pool will be a lot of fun for my friend (a huge soccer fan). 

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent


Wooster


Where the oo sound is a soft oo such as you might find in book, not a hard oo like in root.


So...a bit like wuss-ter?

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Bent


Is he going to Anfield?  (Liverpool).  That would be awesome.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent American pronunciation is erbs, English pronunciation is herbs, word is spelled herbs.  


American pronunciation is al-oo-min-um, English pronunciation is al-yoo-min-ee-um, word is spelled aluminium.

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent I've already been corrected. He's going to White Hart Lane, Stamford Bridge (so Chelsea, not Man U) and Etihad for Man City and Liverpool.  

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent Heh, American English uses "aluminum" now. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent Oh we're the kings of irrational spelling.  The best one is the surname Featherstonehaugh which is pronounced "Fan-shaw".



Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Bent


If you ever make a trip like this, go to Anfield.


WHL is like a Jets game, as soon as the team starts to struggle there's an air of foreboding doom and you can sense the tension and pessimism.


SB and ES are kind of newer and both teams associated with big money so the atmosphere is kinda sterile and may be a bit flat unless the home team is winning.


Often the road team's fans produce more atmosphere because they're always true die-hards and they get their own section so they don't have to worry like an NFL road fan would. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Bent


There's a commercial where an English guy mocks an American's pronunciation of Aluminium by saying "there's a u in it".  Obviously he should have said "there's an i in it".


That this could make it to air without someone realizing how epically stupid that is makes my head hurt.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Aluminium is the actual name of the chemical element. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent Anfield and WHL (since they're my adopted team and the Jet parallels seem plentiful) are top-2 on my list, probably. I have a lot of Liverpool friends, I've been trying to coordinate something like this for years now. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent @Brendan It's been like that for 30-40 years.  Fans would fight if they were in the same section.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Aluminium is how most every non-US country refers to it. Aluminum is an "acceptable variant" because we're Murrica and we do things our own way! Or whatever. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se ....because I like living in NYC? 


I loved London when I was there visiting and I really enjoyed seeing a game there. It's something I suggest any big sports buff do in their lifetime (not you, though). 

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent @Brendan As you're probably aware, Brits and Euros generally have a reputation for football hooliganism and it can get pretty violent.


They often make the road team's fans wait until the stadium is empty before the let them leave with a police escort.  We have police on horseback too!

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se *posts video of Jet fan punching woman in the face*

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se There should be a nerdy gangsta rapper called IUPAC.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se A soccer game only takes up a couple of hours. I saw that stuff as well. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se More barbaric than Chiefs fans beating a guy to death last year? 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Dude, come on. American sports fans fight, maybe not as often as soccer hooligans, but they do. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent Have you ever seen the movie Eurotrip? 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Bent I don't think so, but all that genre of films blend into one for me so I may have.

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent It has Vinnie Jones leading a group of Man U fans and it's just a ridiculous caricature of what the average American probably thinks of when they think of an EPL fan. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Bent There are some great hooligan movies.  I.D. is really good.

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent That one has been suggested to me before, I'll see if it's on Netflix. Green Street Hooligans is the only one I've seen, which I feel like is the typical hooligan movie American males watch when they're in college now.