Daily Links: Counting down




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bob
bob

If its ok with you. I would like to run da ball.

juunit
juunit

Tannenbaum is actually Kerr's agent.

Bent
Bent moderator

@jaygo  I had to dig deep to get to five interesting links this morning.

Bent
Bent moderator

@juunit  When Kerr coaches is he just going to stand over in the corner while everyone else does all the hard work?

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent Actually, all that standing around gave him a great POV on how good players perform and in what systems. He was basically an undercover coaching prospect all those years. 

davem
davem

TA is da man!!!

davem
davem

All this NBA talk with no mention of the Memphis Grizzlies? Really? There's a freaking Beno Uhdrih renaissance going on down here guys! Wake up!

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Bent  Then the Clips will win a few titles and Lakers fans will claim them as their own, as they do with the titles that the Minneapolis Lakers did.

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent  I saw someone throw it out there on Twitter and it picked up a little steam. He's already the face of the Dodgers' ownership group and he'll never have a chance to buy the Lakers (probably), so thinking is he'd take over the troubled LA team and basically be the Saint of LA after he helps bring the Clippers to prominence. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @juunit  Is that even a possibility?  That would be like Joe Namath buying the Giants.

Brendan
Brendan

@juunit I hope Magic Johnson buys that team and just waltzes into the owners box flipping Sterling his gigantic middle finger. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent Oh, I see where we are getting crossed. You're referring to the year the actual finals took place in, I'm referencing the year that season started in. 


Lakers played the Bulls in the '90-'91 finals, which you're calling the '91 season and I'm thinking of as the '90. 

juunit
juunit

@jaygo @juunit@boomer@Bent@Brendan 

Could be worse I guess. Sterling could be the owner. 

Maybe that's what we have to do with Dolan. Record him doing some s*** that forces him to sell the team and disappear from public view until he dies. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Bent  Nah, Blazers were the league's best team in 1991 but the Lakers made the finals.  They were 10 games behind the Bulls in 1992.

juunit
juunit

@boomer @juunit@Bent@Brendan 

I'm hoping that Jackson just convinces a bunch of stars to come to NY. I'm not terribly interested in seeing him prove his genius basketball IQ with a bunch of scrubs. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent Didn't they face the Blazers in 1991 in the finals? I remember that because Jordan went into "Kill 'Em All" mode after hearing people say Clyde was on the same level. It was one of the most systematic dismantlings of an elite player, ever, wasn't it? 


I was 6 when it happened, so I am going off of re-watches on ESPN classic and books, though. 

boomer
boomer

@juunit @boomer @Bent @Brendan  Embrace the Zen.


Personally, I'm dying to see what Jackson can do without having some of the best players of all time running wild.  Both the Bulls and Lakers teams he won with were stacked which makes being a genius coach a tad easier.


Let's see what he does with this collection of has beens and never weres.

Bent
Bent moderator

@juunit @boomer @Bent @Brendan  Inside out?  Is that a strategy where all the big guys who should be playing inside (Novak, Bargs etc) shoot a bunch of threes?

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Bent  Agreed in that case, but I'm sure you'd agree that they weren't the league's best team in 1993 and were extremely lucky against both the Knicks and Suns.  1992 I'll give them (although they again got lucky by avoiding a stronger Blazers team in 1991 and the Celtics falling apart right at the end of the year so they didn't have to go through them).

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent Of course I'm talking about the first three-peat. I wouldn't bother mentioning the other one, when Stern started diluting the league with new franchises. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@juunit @Bent @Brendan  I like Jackson too, as a player and as a coach.


And if you could ever land Steph Curry I think he'd be a great Knick.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Bent  Wut.


Maybe during the first threepeat, but that second threepeat was as watered down as the league has ever been IMO.

juunit
juunit

@Bent @juunit@Brendan 

That's true. But being an improvement over what the team has had in the past isn't very hard, so I'm optimistic Jackson can at least do that. 

I'm not thrilled at the idea of Kerr as the coach. He's never done it before and he's gonna continue the shoot a s***load of threes offense. If we could steal Jackson from Golden State, I'd be thrilled. Always liked him. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent I don't really agree with this. His Bulls teams won when the league was possibly at its most talented. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@juunit @Bent @Brendan  I don't rate Jackson at all.  If ever there's a coach to forget his reputation on having elite talent in a watered-down league (and right now the Knicks don't have either) it's him.

Bent
Bent moderator

@juunit @Brendan @bklyndude  My understanding is that the Nuggets own two picks in the lottery, one from the Knicks.  The lowest one (post lottery draw) goes to Orlando.

juunit
juunit

@Bent @juunit@Brendan 

Well hopefully Jackson can continue to put his foot down. I know Dolan argued with him about firing the assistant coaches, but Jackson told Dolan to shove his guitar up his ass.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Bent  If you get Love, then the Bargs signing suddenly makes sense because he's one of the few starting bigs that Love is a defensive upgrade over.

juunit
juunit

@Brendan @bklyndude 

For teams that didn't trade away all their picks until 2018 anyway. Of course, the first year they've been truly bad in a while is on the odd numbered year where they traded the pick away. I think this year would've put the pick in the lottery. But noooooo.

bklyndude
bklyndude

@Brendan @bklyndude

Paying outrageous ticket prices for NBA games in NYC and watching bad basketball is not going to work with the Nets having so much success right now.

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent OR TRADE THEM FOR KEVIN LOVE BECAUSE PHIL JACKSON IS THE ZEN MASTER STOP RUINING OUR HOPES AND DREAMS. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@juunit @Bent @Brendan  They're not going to shoot for cap space though, are they?  It would be much more Knicks-like to panic trade all your expirings for past their prime veterans.

Brendan
Brendan

@bklyndude In the NBA it's different. You want to either be elite, or terrible so you get a good lottery pick. Being mediocre is a death wish (you're basically the Atlanta Hawks of the past decade). 

juunit
juunit

@Bent @juunit@Brendan 

Mm, as bklyndude points out, rebuilding is tough without draft picks.

Having cap space in 2015 would be good. I know some Knicks fans are already talking about Irving and Love. But honestly, the team was good just last year, I don't really like the idea of punting on Melo and starting over again. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent You guys, $50 million in expiring contracts this coming season.

bklyndude
bklyndude

@Bent @juunit @Brendan

If they had draft picks to build up the team I might agree. 

But if Carmelo leaves as a FA, and are not able to work out a sign and trade,  the Knicks are going to be bad.

Bent
Bent moderator

@juunit @Brendan @Bent  I actually think the Knicks should trade Melo and probably should have done so at the deadline.

Brendan
Brendan

@juunit Those were just his playing days, he's going to move around more now that he's coaching. 

juunit
juunit

@Brendan @Bent 

All this talk of standing around watching other guys do the work doesn't seem beneficial to an offense with Melo in it. Might as well have just kept Iso-Woodson then.