Daily Links: Don’t Panic!

  • Rex: This is “not a panic situation” [ESPN NY]
  • Allen’s position coach gives insight into his skills [The Star-Ledger]
  • McNabb: Wildcat “killed Sanchez’s career” [Newsday]
  • Hubbuch: Jets should tell Amaro to get his act together [NY Post]
  • Russell S. Baxter predicts Tajh Boyd to be cut [B/R]



292 comments
bradysucks
bradysucks

For the guys below inquiring about Stephen Hill trade destinations....these are possible destinations for Hill.

1) Dolphins - Tannenbaum is a consultant and he drafted Hill

2) Raiders - Joey C used to work for Jets and also was involved in drafting

Hill.

3) CFL - where he belongs. Trade his rights for a salami sandwich

Peace

boose2
boose2

This is my whole take on the AA-starting-at-CB-next-game.  I want to go ahead & apologize for the analogy in advance, because 1. It may be apples to oranges (but it helps me understand) 2.  It's Reds related (& from what I've read this is the heart of Mets' country).

This situation reminds me a lot of when the Reds were working out Alfredo Simon as a starter in Spring Training.  As a relief pitcher, many fans were wondering why we would take reps away from the other starters for Simon.  Well the back-end of the bullpen was solidified (Chapman/Broxton=Pryor/Landry) - Besides we had other strong options if something didn't work out (Parra/Hoover/S.Marshall = Jarrett/Bush?/EdReeeed - please), so working 
him out as a starter did two things at once... It strengthened his skills for the type of role he would have anyway (middle/long relief compared to AA in Big Nickel), plus gave as a better look on what he could possibly do if we were lucky - Be a number 5 starter until Latos came back.  For the non-baseball fans, Simon was a pitcher for the NL in the AS game, & currently has 12 wins with an ERA barely over 3.

Again, not the best analogy in the world, & I don't expect AA to be a pro bowl CB this year (or even be a starter at CB for a good portion of the season).  But I kind of understand what they are doing here.  AA vs Green/Eifert/Gresham/Sanu is a nice test for what he may be able to do this year.  I'd like to see him get plenty of reps Saturday in man coverage vs all of them & see what he is capable of.  I'd imagine he's already the gameplan for  Julius Thomas, Gronkowski & other TE's we will be facing this year - but if he can prove more - it wouldn't hurt for the Jordy Nelsons, Alshon Jefferys & other big WRs we face this year.


Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se Yes, no snaps in game one.

koala
koala

@bradysucks I think I'd be happy if we traded Hill for Denarius Moore. He's been a consistent deep threat for 3 years now. If he caught 40 balls for 500-600 yards as a deep threat that would be exactly the sort of role we are looking to fill on the Jets this year I think  

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks This objective Stephen Hill comment brought to you by Bradysucks. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se "I wonder if we could trade Hill for Austin?"


I don't see the Rams giving up on the guy before he's played a single game in Season 2. He was a top 10 pick a year ago, and he did flash some of that big-play ability last year. 


It's funny to read Rams fan comments, they haaaaaate Schotty. 

bradysucks
bradysucks

Hill for Tavon Austin???

Lol

I'd be over the moon

Funny how Shotty can make any WR look bad

Disgruntled Jets Fan
Disgruntled Jets Fan

Ha! I guess Schotty hate is universal.

If only we could combine the bast traits of Hill and Austin...but yeah, don't see them making that trade.

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks That trade has a 0% chance of happening, my comment was in reference to your "where he belongs" statement. 

gbrownn
gbrownn

I feel they'd sooner trade Hill for Brian Quick. Similar kinda size/speed guy who has underwhelmed. I'd do either trade in a heartbeat.

bradysucks
bradysucks

It is where he belongs....and he wouldn't be the best receiver on any of those rosters in Canada either

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks This objective Stephen Hill comment brought to you by Bradysucks.

gbrownn
gbrownn

The Rams. Dont think they would trade Austin that soon. Guys pretty damn electric.

bradysucks
bradysucks

That IS being objective. Hill would not be a top receiver in Canada

SackDance99
SackDance99

@bradysucks IMO, Hill could wear a tuxedo and spats in the CFL and dominate.  Hill's size and speed is not what you see in CFL WRs.  Moreover, the cover skills of the CBs and safeties is equally poor.  Whenever the CFL gets an NFL-caliber QB, the QB dominates because there's always somebody open on the wider and longer field.


I know you hate Hill, but he'd be like the Megatron of the CFL with the only limiting factor being whether the QB can throw the ball up semi-accurately.

bradysucks
bradysucks

You mean on the Jets 30th rated pass offense - yeah he is instrumental in their Lack of success ....so he does belong

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks I will bet you that the Jets' passing offense finishes better than 30th this year. 

bradysucks
bradysucks

I will bet you they aren't top 20 in passing. If I lose I will only post positive comments about the Jets for 6 months

If you lose you must acknowledge my superiority (lol)

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks Split the difference and make it 25, then. 


You can't refer to it as "30th ranked" once the season starts, so I can't wait for that day to get here. 

bradysucks
bradysucks

Not worth making that bet

Only because if they finish 24th they are still in the bottom 25% of the league

Top 20

We can make it a gentleman bet for bragging rights

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks No gentleman's bet, put your money where your mouth is, BS. 


And there are 32 teams, 24th ranked is just outside the bottom 25% (by one, but it still counts!). 

bradysucks
bradysucks

32 teams

Top 20 is legit

Below that is poor

If I lose I'm not gonna lose because Jets were 24th ranked in the league

No thanks

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks For the record, we usually only do it for a $20 donation to a charity of the other's choosing. For this one, if you went with 24th, I'd give you 2:1 odds (meaning I'd donate $40). If you want to keep it at 20th ranked, we'd do even odds. Seem fair? 

t__k
t__k

@Brendan @bradysucks I love how the argument is over the Jets finishing 24th in passing!  like that's an accomplishment.  Go in to another thread and you'll have 15 people championing all the weapons we have.

Brendan
Brendan

@t__k 24th or better is in the "average" area. If the Jets are average passing the ball, they'll win more often than not. 

t__k
t__k

@Brendan @t__k Well, you have the "or better part" correct.  I believe 16th would be average.  24th would be below average.

Brendan
Brendan

@t__k @Brendan You can break it up however you like, my point was merely you're in the middle block of teams if you're there. 


I do it 


Elite (top 4-5, maybe a little more in a good year)

Above Average (next 5-7)

Average (next 10-12)

Below average (next 5-7)

Poops Dumpster Fire (bottom 3 or so)

t__k
t__k

@Brendan @t__k Well when average is double the size of every other group, I guess that does make sense.

Brendan
Brendan

@t__k Right, which I feel is fair given the way the NFL has parity, etc. on a yearly basis. 

t__k
t__k

@Brendan @t__k Fairest way would probably be to break them in to quarters since there are 32 teams.  Then you'd have Top 8, above average (8), below average (8), bottom 8.  In that scenario, they would still be below average at 24.

NYCPEinGermany
NYCPEinGermany

@t__k @Brendan

I would probably be more specific:


elite 4

top 4

above average 4

average 8

below average 4

rather poor 4

crap 4

Brendan
Brendan

@t__k See, I don't like doing that with NFL teams, because the top-8 could be 4 elite teams then a huge break. That's why I like to be flexible. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se "Not a very good ranking"


They'd be on the low side of average, but I'd still see that as average. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se God, are you really going to be this difficult about this? 24th could be average. Better? 

t__k
t__k

@Brendan hahahaha Brendan I know this will come off super jerky and i'm going to try to word it a bit better than Grumpy McGrumpster, but 24th couldn't be average, no.  The math doesn't support it as far as I can tell.

Brendan
Brendan

@t__k Per my breakdown, 5 + 7 + 12 = 24. Like I said, it'd be the low-side of average, but still average (barely). 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Great, 57. Are you done trying to prove a useless point, or...

t__k
t__k

@Brendan @t__k Hahaha Ok, I'm going to let this one die.  It's not that big a deal.

Brendan
Brendan

@t__k In reality, I think there are less than 5 elite/horrendous teams at a time. A few teams that could be elite/horrendous, and the rest are "average" "mediocre" or whatever you want to call it. 24th passing offense and 16th passing offense were separate by like 20 yards or something. That's not a big gap, so I tend to think of them in fairly similar terms. If you're not leading the pack, or trailing it miserably, you're just...there. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Yes, it's obnoxious since it was a throwaway comment I made in trying to push BS into putting his money where his mouth is. 

t__k
t__k

@Brendan I know what you're saying.  Just strictly speaking mathematically, you can't really take X numbers of teams in one group, then take Y number in another, then Z in another and say the group I put the most number of teams in is average.   You really have to take either total passing yards, passing yards per game, etc. then ranking them.  The average, or really the median, would be the 16th team.   Anything below that, technically, is below average or below the median.

t__k
t__k

@brendan and on that note i've spent way too much time on this....it's not a big deal at all.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Why bother questioning me on it at all? Because you're bored, I assume. 


And please notice that tk was laughing about this, implying he's not taking it seriously.