Daily Links: Don’t Panic!

  • Rex: This is “not a panic situation” [ESPN NY]
  • Allen’s position coach gives insight into his skills [The Star-Ledger]
  • McNabb: Wildcat “killed Sanchez’s career” [Newsday]
  • Hubbuch: Jets should tell Amaro to get his act together [NY Post]
  • Russell S. Baxter predicts Tajh Boyd to be cut [B/R]



368 comments
a57se
a57se

Is Chris Pantale still with the Jets? I haven't heard him mentioned in a while...

a57se
a57se

Hey, I was bored the other night and stopped at the NFL Network for a minute while channel surfing and guess what I saw?

Matthew Mulligan getting flagged for a False Start!!!

Who'd a thunk it!

bradysucks
bradysucks

For the guys below inquiring about Stephen Hill trade destinations....these are possible destinations for Hill.

1) Dolphins - Tannenbaum is a consultant and he drafted Hill

2) Raiders - Joey C used to work for Jets and also was involved in drafting

Hill.

3) CFL - where he belongs. Trade his rights for a salami sandwich

Peace

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se Yes, no snaps in game one.

koala
koala

@bradysucks I think I'd be happy if we traded Hill for Denarius Moore. He's been a consistent deep threat for 3 years now. If he caught 40 balls for 500-600 yards as a deep threat that would be exactly the sort of role we are looking to fill on the Jets this year I think  

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks This objective Stephen Hill comment brought to you by Bradysucks. 

a57se
a57se

@Bent @a57se 

Any info on how he is or isn't progressing?

Heard a lot about Sudfeld.

bradysucks
bradysucks

Hill for Tavon Austin???

Lol

I'd be over the moon

Funny how Shotty can make any WR look bad

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks That trade has a 0% chance of happening, my comment was in reference to your "where he belongs" statement. 

bradysucks
bradysucks

It is where he belongs....and he wouldn't be the best receiver on any of those rosters in Canada either

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks This objective Stephen Hill comment brought to you by Bradysucks.

bradysucks
bradysucks

That IS being objective. Hill would not be a top receiver in Canada

SackDance99
SackDance99

@bradysucks IMO, Hill could wear a tuxedo and spats in the CFL and dominate.  Hill's size and speed is not what you see in CFL WRs.  Moreover, the cover skills of the CBs and safeties is equally poor.  Whenever the CFL gets an NFL-caliber QB, the QB dominates because there's always somebody open on the wider and longer field.


I know you hate Hill, but he'd be like the Megatron of the CFL with the only limiting factor being whether the QB can throw the ball up semi-accurately.

bradysucks
bradysucks

You mean on the Jets 30th rated pass offense - yeah he is instrumental in their Lack of success ....so he does belong

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks I will bet you that the Jets' passing offense finishes better than 30th this year. 

bradysucks
bradysucks

I will bet you they aren't top 20 in passing. If I lose I will only post positive comments about the Jets for 6 months

If you lose you must acknowledge my superiority (lol)

a57se
a57se

@bradysucks 

ZOMG! I wouldn't leave my knees until the Jets were assured of being top 20...

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks Split the difference and make it 25, then. 


You can't refer to it as "30th ranked" once the season starts, so I can't wait for that day to get here. 

bradysucks
bradysucks

Not worth making that bet

Only because if they finish 24th they are still in the bottom 25% of the league

Top 20

We can make it a gentleman bet for bragging rights

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks No gentleman's bet, put your money where your mouth is, BS. 


And there are 32 teams, 24th ranked is just outside the bottom 25% (by one, but it still counts!). 

bradysucks
bradysucks

32 teams

Top 20 is legit

Below that is poor

If I lose I'm not gonna lose because Jets were 24th ranked in the league

No thanks

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks For the record, we usually only do it for a $20 donation to a charity of the other's choosing. For this one, if you went with 24th, I'd give you 2:1 odds (meaning I'd donate $40). If you want to keep it at 20th ranked, we'd do even odds. Seem fair? 

t__k
t__k

@Brendan @bradysucks I love how the argument is over the Jets finishing 24th in passing!  like that's an accomplishment.  Go in to another thread and you'll have 15 people championing all the weapons we have.

Brendan
Brendan

@t__k 24th or better is in the "average" area. If the Jets are average passing the ball, they'll win more often than not. 

t__k
t__k

@Brendan @t__k Well, you have the "or better part" correct.  I believe 16th would be average.  24th would be below average.

Brendan
Brendan

@t__k @Brendan You can break it up however you like, my point was merely you're in the middle block of teams if you're there. 


I do it 


Elite (top 4-5, maybe a little more in a good year)

Above Average (next 5-7)

Average (next 10-12)

Below average (next 5-7)

Poops Dumpster Fire (bottom 3 or so)

t__k
t__k

@Brendan @t__k Well when average is double the size of every other group, I guess that does make sense.

Brendan
Brendan

@t__k Right, which I feel is fair given the way the NFL has parity, etc. on a yearly basis. 

t__k
t__k

@Brendan @t__k Fairest way would probably be to break them in to quarters since there are 32 teams.  Then you'd have Top 8, above average (8), below average (8), bottom 8.  In that scenario, they would still be below average at 24.

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

Well you are saying that being 24th out of 32 would be average.

Yet when you look at it from a statistics standpoint, that would mean the Jets offense is only in the 75th percentile.

Not a very good ranking...you would also have to include being the 9th best offense in the league as being average if you equating it to a Standard Distributon curve as they are symmetrical around the mean.

I think equating the 9th best offense in the NFL to the 24th best offense in the NFL is quite a stretch.

NYCPEinGermany
NYCPEinGermany

@t__k @Brendan

I would probably be more specific:


elite 4

top 4

above average 4

average 8

below average 4

rather poor 4

crap 4

Brendan
Brendan

@t__k See, I don't like doing that with NFL teams, because the top-8 could be 4 elite teams then a huge break. That's why I like to be flexible. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se "Not a very good ranking"


They'd be on the low side of average, but I'd still see that as average. 

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @t__k 

But you are not being flexible when you say being 24th would be average...

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se God, are you really going to be this difficult about this? 24th could be average. Better? 

t__k
t__k

@Brendan hahahaha Brendan I know this will come off super jerky and i'm going to try to word it a bit better than Grumpy McGrumpster, but 24th couldn't be average, no.  The math doesn't support it as far as I can tell.

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

I would never consider 24th out of 32 average. I don't think you could find any year in NFL History where the stats would indicate that 24th out of 32 was average no matter how much you stretch the criteria...


a57se
a57se

@t__k @Brendan 

Have I called you names on this Blog?

Please stop with these appelations if it was me you were referring to.

Brendan
Brendan

@t__k Per my breakdown, 5 + 7 + 12 = 24. Like I said, it'd be the low-side of average, but still average (barely). 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Great, 57. Are you done trying to prove a useless point, or...

t__k
t__k

@Brendan @t__k Hahaha Ok, I'm going to let this one die.  It's not that big a deal.

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

You made an assertion and we have been discussing its' merits...is there a problem with that?

Brendan
Brendan

@t__k In reality, I think there are less than 5 elite/horrendous teams at a time. A few teams that could be elite/horrendous, and the rest are "average" "mediocre" or whatever you want to call it. 24th passing offense and 16th passing offense were separate by like 20 yards or something. That's not a big gap, so I tend to think of them in fairly similar terms. If you're not leading the pack, or trailing it miserably, you're just...there. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Yes, it's obnoxious since it was a throwaway comment I made in trying to push BS into putting his money where his mouth is. 

t__k
t__k

@Brendan I know what you're saying.  Just strictly speaking mathematically, you can't really take X numbers of teams in one group, then take Y number in another, then Z in another and say the group I put the most number of teams in is average.   You really have to take either total passing yards, passing yards per game, etc. then ranking them.  The average, or really the median, would be the 16th team.   Anything below that, technically, is below average or below the median.

t__k
t__k

@brendan and on that note i've spent way too much time on this....it's not a big deal at all.

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

Then why not just say upfront that it was a throwaway comment? We took you seriously and that is why you were questioned about it...

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Why bother questioning me on it at all? Because you're bored, I assume. 


And please notice that tk was laughing about this, implying he's not taking it seriously.