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harvlis
harvlis

We need Decker and someone better than Decker. Then, we need to sign Holmes for the right price. Holmes as a number three and Kerley as a four sounds about right. Trade Sanchez for a fourth rounder añd move on. He needs a change of scenery and we need depth.

Tyrone Garcia
Tyrone Garcia

I think i'm still sitting on my coach from the Jets Pitt  AFC game Hopefully I can get out of it soon. 

Tyrone Garcia
Tyrone Garcia

Mark Sanchez in a small market city away from the crazy media just might shine. To me Mark Sanchez can be a good QB. But the pressure and constant changing from good to worse offensive weapons he had was his dilemma along with a coach talking SB every year he was there. He almost did it to! who knows what would of happen if the Jets defense stops Rothelesberger in The AFC game and Sanchez gets one more shot with 2 minutes left which would of been left on the clock. But a bad play call by the defense killed it and old and slow LB.. they thought he was going to run but he passed and got the First down. So maybe that was Sanchez time. but we will never know. Im still scared by that game but ony the Jets can beat the best two QB in football and lose to a QB with a Broken or bad ankle.  .Im sorry but that was just SOJ type of karma.....

Ceifus Hornswoggle
Ceifus Hornswoggle

They should leave a Decker Jets jersey in the locker room for him to find, stuffed with hundred dollar bills.

r_in_ct
r_in_ct

If I can drop a few cliches here ...

It seems that this positive one-coach assessment of Sanchez may have a little bit of "the grass is always greener" to it. "Oh, it's the team around him," the uneducated may say, but it wasn't "the team around him" that made all those horrible on-field decisions. And "one coach" could be a conditioning coach on the Jaguars for all we know.


Still, one team's trash may turn out to be another's treasure—and I hope it works out for Mark because he seems like a generally nice kid who may benefit from a change of scenery—but sometimes it's also just trash. Time will tell.

juunit
juunit

Sanchez may have been a crappy starter. But that's exactly why he's a really good backup. He has started. He's won in the playoffs. It's not completely impossible that he can get better in a new setting. 


I mean, if all that garbage in Tampa hadn't gone on, I think most of us would be alright with bringing in Josh Freeman as QB2, who would be similar to what Sanchez is. Except Sanchez is better because of the playoff experience, and obviously doesn't have all the baggage of whatever the hell went on in Tampa. 


I do hope we bring in some kind of veteran. And I mean one who is actually going to suit up. If Garrard comes back and is the 3rd guy on the depth chart behind Simms again, I'm not gonna be happy about it.

Pat d
Pat d

I like everything except the part about keeping Holmes. But it's not going to happen. Also I don't see anyone trading for Sanchez when they know the Jets are going to cut him.

Brendan
Brendan

@harvlis Uh, you want to have three veteran starting-level players, plus Kerley? 


Kerley is better than a four, dude. Come on. 

Pat d
Pat d

We would most likely have to move up too far to one of the top QBs but if at 18 the top player on your draft board is a QB you have to take him. Teams that draft strictly for need are usually drafting pretty early because they are crap.

djf1
djf1

I've never been there as I'm not a fan.  Was it active and livefyre helped drive them away, or was it dead and SNY needed a better one?

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se  I believe this is the SNY Yankees blog now and would assume they'll add it to the sidebar at some point.  http://nyyfans.com

1969JAN12th
1969JAN12th

@jake100 Nice revisionist history. The Mark Sanchez that took us to the 2 AFC Championship games no longer exists. His decline started the night of the Raven game where he was pummeled on one play after another. He was never the same player after that and you can mark  (no pun intended ) that date as the day it all changed for Mark and our team. I don't wish him ill, but his bad decision-making won't stop after he changes uniforms.

levi
levi

@jake100 It seems like Ive heard this somewhere before.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se No, he doesn't have any injury guarantees and the injury happened in the current league year.

MarshRandy
MarshRandy

@juunit exactly, look at all the horrible backup QBs in the league. Our team included. Think Green Bay wouldn't be better off with Sanchez instead of Matt Flynn or Scott Tolzien?

harvlis
harvlis

@Pat d Holmes is a disappointing number one receiver, due to injuries and poor character but, if they can sign him for a reasonable price, he can be a nice number three.

harvlis
harvlis

@Brendan@harvlis I like Kerley but, our offense would be much better, if he was the fourth receiver.  If we picked up one of the better receivers in the draft, along with picking up Decker, and signing Holmes at a discount, my plan works.  What is so outrageous about that?

djf1
djf1

they sure like to throw money around.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @r_in_ct  "If you want to make the pieces argument about 2013 at the skill positions then it is more than valid for 2012 where the talent was actually worse."


But I don't want to make the pieces argument because it's a laughably ridiculous over-simplification.

harvlis
harvlis

@Pat d Pat, he could be a good three and I would be happy with him there but, if he is our number four, we are dangerous.

Pat d
Pat d

I would rather have Kerley at the #3

harvlis
harvlis

@a57se@harvlis@Brendan I agree that you do not pay Decker more than he is worth but, he is a quality big target who I would want.  No one is going to steal him.  One of the top receivers in the draft, like a Marqis Lee could be a number one.  I could take a lot of abuse for this but, I would have no problem with a healthy Hakeem Nicks at the right price.  As for Sanchez, plenty of teams need improvement at the QB position or a solid back-up.  Sanchez was able to get to the championship game, in his first two seasons.  His last two seasons, his surrounding cast had disappeared.  In his final year, he had to deal with Tebow and Sparano.  You never know.

djf1
djf1

@a57se@djf1 so previously the blogs were free to choose their own commenting providers?

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent Once a guy goes on IR his salary is guaranteed anyway, so if you release him from IR later on, it doesn't make any difference.


This rarely happens because the team has nothing to lose so might as well retain the player's rights, although if the player in question could get an opportunity elsewhere (like Braylon at the end of 2011 when Seattle released him to the Jets) then they can be granted their release.


In Sanchez's case it again makes sense for them to retain his rights just in case someone offers them something for him, but I don't expect this.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se @Bent He won't be on IR once the new league year starts, and they're not cutting him before then. 

levi
levi

@Marcus Armstrong Im not that big on Decker but if Idzik makes a move for him I wouldnt be upset either. 

MarshRandy
MarshRandy

@a57se I think he was only in his third year when Peyton got there, not too many receivers are worth $10 mil in their second seasons. It takes time, and he looked good early, I believe he scored 9 TDs in his second year with kyle orton/tebow as QB

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent @r_in_ct 


That's not "the pieces argument" then, is it?  It's "the sophisticated, well reasoned and considered, taking everything into account argument" of which the lack of receiving talent is part of the equation.

levi
levi

@a57se Maybe they know what they are talking about. The guy has had stacked teams for years and has won nothing.

MarshRandy
MarshRandy

@levi @MarshRandy I never said I want Sanchez to stay. All I'm saying is if he was on a different team he's the model of QB I'd want to bring in as a backup. And I think it's way too early to close the book on his career

levi
levi

@MarshRandy What? You cant be serious. You still think Sanchez can be the long term QB for us? Its over for him here as it should be. He is bad. If he plays for another team that will surely boost our turnover slump we have been in.

MarshRandy
MarshRandy

@levi @MarshRandy when you have uncertainty at the QB spot I'd rather bring in a guy who could compete and maybe become the long term starter. Sanchez could, Flynn can't. If we had a stud starter then fine Flynn would be an okay backup but he has zero upside

levi
levi

@MarshRandy He did it this year too. I think you guys are forgetting how terrible Sanchez is.

levi
levi

@a57se Key word was "back up". I think he would be fine in that role. Just like he is for GB he comes in makes some plays and doesnt kill the teams chances.

levi
levi

@MarshRandy Sanchez is done in NY. I would take Matt Flynn over him as a back up.

MarshRandy
MarshRandy

@a57se @MarshRandy I would say absolutely from a skill standpoint and if he was on a different team, it's just hard to see Sanchez staying with the Jets after being demoted.


But Sanchez is young and talented - Simms is young and not talented and Garrard is too old to even evaluate his talent level.