Daily Links: Friends in need

  • Richard Sherman comes to his old friend’s defense. [NJ]
  • Are the Jets serious about a run at CJ2K? [PFT]
  • DeSean will visit the Redskins today. [Inquirer]
  • Another incompletion for Mark Sanchez. [NJ]
  • Mushnick leans a little too much into all the gang talk. [NY Post]




214 comments
kniff
kniff

Any word on DJax meeting with the 'skins yet?

Pat d
Pat d

DJax gang affiliation is Neighborhood 40 Crips. Sherman can stick up for him all he wants, it doesn't change anything.

MarshRandy
MarshRandy

Despite his speed CJ is more of a volume back, I don't see him thriving in a 3rd down role. He needs 25 carries a game to break one of those 80 yarders

Socram85
Socram85

CJ makes so much sense for the Jets. Idzick knows what having a RB with homerun threat can do for an offense (i.e. Beastmode). 


Need to make this happen. This makes a lot of football sense. CJ is 28 and has a nice record of staying healthy. 

Kal Ripken
Kal Ripken

If we do any kind of trading in the draft, it should be up for Mike Evans.

dabronx
dabronx

We are OK at RB. If he is looking for elite RB money then we should look at the draft for depth instead of CJ. Chris Sims in the 4th or Lache Seastrunk in the 3rd.

tobyshasta
tobyshasta

Riddle me this Jets fans. Would you consider this off-season a success if we were able to draft one of the top cb's (Dennard, Gilbert), and then trade let's say a 2nd, 4th, and 5th to move back into the late first and grab either (Lee, ODB, Cooks)?

SackDance99
SackDance99

@kniff They'll sign him.  The 'Skins love to stick it to the Eagles.

Brian Serviss
Brian Serviss

@Pat d  and reporters can report anything they want but it doesn't make it true. Two way street

Bent
Bent moderator

@MS  Devil's advocate - can we still call a guy whose longest run last year was 30 yards a home run threat?

hazard2012
hazard2012

@dabronx  


With a draft this deep at RB, when you can probably land a Freeman, Sims or Seastrunk in round 4, why bother with CJ at any price?    I don't understand the logic is our reported interest in some FA's and not others.   

Pete Whalen
Pete Whalen

Yes, he's painting himself into a corner. His new name is Jack Horner. He will be eating many plums. And the Dolphins will win the SB.

Monty
Monty

@Hanknaples  painted into a corner  hes already trashed the season..theres no one left.. and hes not going to get the people that are.

bklyndude
bklyndude

@tobyshasta  

Keep the picks in this years draft.   Maybe move up in the third or fourth round with all of the extra late round picks.

Monty
Monty

It would be great to get another nfl receiver..who knows if cooks or odb can beat nfl press coverage. Go look at us talking bush allen and landry...hoping for a 5 7 recciver to save us..this is pathetic ..thanks idzik

Hoz
Hoz

@tobyshasta  i wouldn't mind your theory but the thing is we have holes all over the place that will just fix 2.

Monty
Monty

No because we could have upgraded thevteam already without sacrificing picks.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@Bent @MSHe did have a 66 yard reception and isn't that what the Jets want him most for?

Socram85
Socram85

@Bent @MS Its a tough one to argue because last year was overall not great. The offense was pretty terrible and actually lost them some games that were winnable. As a key figure, defenses were able to focus on stopping him. Not that the Jets would be too different, but I could argue that the threat of his speed and a better compliment (Ivory>Shonne Green), might do us very good. At the very least takes some pressure of Geno.


His healthy track record is a key issue for me. Kinda makes him more worth it than MJD (and even MJD arguably made sense ).   

SackDance99
SackDance99

@hazard2012 @dabronxThe case for CJ isn't all that difficult to make.  Marty M.'s offense works best with a pass-catching, edge-challenging RB in the Westbrook/McCoy role.  As much as we may think a rookie can step into this role, rookies do fail and putting all of the Jets' eggs in the rookie basket might not be sound.  Also, CJ is a 6-year pro and should be able to work with the QBs effectively from day 1, while the rookies, many of who rarely catch passes in college have a lot to learn.  CJ has averaged over 45 catches a season.  All of the Jets' RBs last year had 54 receptions and the leader, Bilal Powell, had 31.  Johnson would be a clear upgrade, the Jets have plenty of cap space and they can still add a rookie RB that can work his way into the line up, like McCoy did when he took over for Westbrook in 2009.

levi
levi

@Monty @Hanknaples  March 31st the season is over. Monty called it!! I know its odd he wouldnt wait til after the draft but I think this guy knows his stuff.

Brian Serviss
Brian Serviss

@Monty  and then we can take huge cap hits and not be able to re sign players like Wilkerson. But please continue 

Pete Whalen
Pete Whalen

But what is the best way to build the team? Best use of resources? Do you think the Jets could contend for the SB this year if they make the moves you wanted? And would that hurt them in the next couple of years by having a bad salary cap situation and not getting the players in the draft for those positions?

Bent
Bent moderator

@SackDance99 @levi @MS @Bent  In preseason his ball-placement on short passes was much better than Sanchez, but once the season got underway he regressed badly in that area.

levi
levi

@SackDance99 From what I remember yes, maybe he improved on that too though because he did seem to make steady improvments as the seasone went on. Maybe it was more a problem of him not setting it up proper instead of him not making the pass though.

Socram85
Socram85

@SackDance99 @MS @Bent  I agree.One could argue that this is more of a no brainer than a Desean Jackson move. This would create a pretty significant ripple effect on the rest of the offense. Desean would just open up other receivers, CJ opens up everybody if he plays at a high level. 

SackDance99
SackDance99

@MS @SackDance99@BentHis 66 yard TD reception against the 49ers was on what looked like a middle screen and CJ just used his speed and elusiveness to run right down the middle of the field.  The Jets just don't have dynamism like that at the RB position (maybe Goodson if he's healthy).

hazard2012
hazard2012

@SackDance99  


Had to step out, but wanted to reply.   We can't continue to play both ends the middle in how we're trying to build a team.   If we're building through the draft then CJ is not a game changing FA you bother with.   His best years are behind him.   


I'd take Sankey, Freeman, Seastrunk or Sims in a flash over CJ because any of these guys could be the future.   They would all be steals in the 4th round...though Sankey won't last that long.  


How many more catches would CJ make this year over any of these other guys?   How many big gains is he likely to make that they won't?   


If we're building thru the draft then let's do it and stop wasting time with expensive older players who only have a year or so left in them.      

SackDance99
SackDance99

@bklyndude @SackDance99Reality sucks for RBs these days.  The RB position is considered the easiest to replace on the offense, the era of the bell-cow RB is said to be over and aging RBs are the ones most vulnerable.  I envision CJ and Ivory working like Parker and Bettis.  Parker in the 1st half to score, Bettis in the second half to win.

bklyndude
bklyndude

@SackDance99  

Does anybody think CJ wants to share carries with Ivory ?    Has he fallen so far that he can't be the lead RB on any team.  If he wants to play for the Jets,  Ivory and CJ would be a formidable pairing and keep them both a little fresher by the end of the season. 

boomer
boomer

@Hanknaples @boomer @levi  I'm sure the Rams are very appreciative, I know I am.  It might also have had something to do with the massive contracts they gave to FA Ellerbe and Wallace.

levi
levi

@Hanknaples  Favre was actually working pretty good until the injury. Especially not knowing the play book.

boomer
boomer

@Hanknaples @boomer @levi  And yet they couldn't find a way to keep one of the top left tackles in the league which is why they are reaching into FA to find one.

levi
levi

@Hanknaples I like Wallace. I think they paid to much but he is very good.

levi
levi

@Hanknaples  I understand you live in Florida so you hear a lot about the dolphins. Its kinda like me Im I live closer to Buffalo  and Im surrounded by Bills fans and I dont dislike lthem ike I do  the Patriots or Phins. But damn man you praise every move the Phins make and they are in shambles.

boomer
boomer

@Hanknaples @levi  Actually it really started when the Fins couldn't keep Long because they spent too much money on guys like Brandon Marshall who now plays for the Bears.


We, on the other hand, are budgeting money to keep our future stars.


Starting to see a pattern here?

levi
levi

@Hanknaples  They havent made the playoffs in 6 years Hank and they spent a ton last year too. You may want to use a better example. Perhaps the Broncos...

boomer
boomer

@Hanknaples @boomer @a57se  Read mine, Brandon Marshall and Richie Incognito.


And they finished behind the Jets last year.  Funny that.

levi
levi

@Hanknaples  Im not expecting miracles in the draft but I dont want him spending every dime just because he has money. You didnt get to where you are today with that theory either Hank.

Brian Serviss
Brian Serviss

@jwag19 @levi @Monty  he is that fan that complains about every move his team makes. If the jets were to sign 4-6 big name FA this offseason, he would complain about how the Jets wasted money and didn't build through the draft. That's just how some people are

jwag19
jwag19

@levi @Monty  i really would love to see monty's reaction if the jets draft well this offseason and make some minor late moves in free agency and have a solid season... he would still find a way to complain

levi
levi

@Monty  My memory probably fails me Monty. So I guess I was wrong and you have wanted every single FA that has been out there. I hope you can relax because its a long off season. Have a good day.

Monty
Monty

@a57se @levi  I wont ruin anything feel free to discuss bush vs landry vs allen.. while our hopes for a winning season dwindle to dust .. :) 

have a good day 

Monty
Monty

@levi @Monty  no the pages are there.. what I say doesnt matter its my opinion but what I said was if warty doesnt want him .. he gets a pass.. reports have come out saying marty wants him ..

levi
levi

@Monty  BS You are flip flopping just to continue your witch hunt on Idzik.

Monty
Monty

@levi @Monty  no what I said was if Marty and vick dont want DJax give Idzik a pass,, because marty knows him.. but if marty wants him you get him

levi
levi

@Monty  I could have swore you said you give Idzik a pass if he doesnt sign D Jax it would be wise business?

Disgruntled Jets Fan
Disgruntled Jets Fan


Technically, none of the college prospects are professionals,  by definition.

Monty
Monty

@boomer @Disgruntled Jets Fan @Monty  yes.. take what Im saying out of context if that makes you feel more intelligent..


Im saying I want a smallish proven professioal  Desean Jackson who can beat all types of coverages


not a huge smallish question mark rookie who hasnt had to face all types of NFl coverages

beckham and cooks CAN be good.. Desean is already good 

If Beckham and cooks are the best player avail;able at that time so be it...but sign desean dont worry about trading up for wideouts

levi
levi

@boomer  Thats the one FA Monty hasnt wanted to sign.

levi
levi

 Getting mad certainly seems to be the answer. Keep up the good fight Sir.

Monty
Monty

Yeah hes a free agent difference maker ..and they got him

Monty
Monty

Get mad dammit we shpuld be better ..dont accet your idzik scraps and the bull thier feeding you. The denver broncos had a good d and tim tebow and got to the superbowl in two years with creativity and balls.

Monty
Monty

I want professionals..not undersized hope. How did tavpn austin do last year..niether of these guys is getting past Browner or revis press so if you want to draft beckham or odb we need another professional reciever as well....a nicks. Jones type.

Disgruntled Jets Fan
Disgruntled Jets Fan

@Monty they're not tiny, just average.   we need receivers who catch the ball.  Hill was tall - what good did that do?

Monty
Monty

Im exagerating cooks and odb are tiny..