Daily Links: Heel turn

  • What are the Jets’ Achilles’ heels? [Jets Official Site]
  • Camp previews: Offensive line [ESPN New York]
  • Seth Walder reviews some training camp sleepers [NY Daily News]
  • Jets’ best and worst contracts [OTC]
  • Kenrick Ellis poised for breakout season [B/R]



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a57se
a57se

Looking at the coaches generally considered the BEST in the NFL, I noticed that none of them are really known for boasting about their teams like Rex does. 

I conclude from that that it is NOT NECEASSARY for a HC to boast like Rex does.

Since it is not a necessary trait to be a good HC, I can think Rex is a good HC without being critical of his coaching because I dislike his bloviating.

Rex' personality, like turnips, is something you either have a taste for or you don't. It doesn't require explanation to find rex' vocal bravado irritating or annoying or to just "not like it".

a57se
a57se

Counting up the Cimidiots' Starters and reserves from his preview series and he has 26 offensive players...waiting to see if he can count to 53 accurately.

harold
harold

Kenrick Ellis could help take the defense to the next level. He has Kris Jenkins type player upside with his mix of power agility, and pass rush skills.

Ceifus Hornswoggle
Ceifus Hornswoggle

I quit reading the Achilles heel article after the first line: "According to ancient Greek mythology, Achilles was a near-invincible warrior who captured closed to two dozen Trojan towns."


Talk about mailing it in.

Brendan
Brendan

"The bottom line is Harris is a nice player to have on a good defense, but he is by no means a player that you build a defense around, and the Jets did just that with their financial commitment to him."


This pretty much sums it up.  

SackDance99
SackDance99

@a57se Lombardi was as bombastic as any NFL HC in history.  Winning championships is the great deodorant.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se Based on his salary cap calculations, I'd say no...

buckets
buckets

Agree, but....Kenrick. :)

juunit
juunit

Yeah, everyone knows the more impressive feet was his capturing a baker's dozen of Durex towns, all in the span of one night.

Amateurs.

Brendan
Brendan

@UncleJoesJetFarm I was waiting for you to mention this. People are bashing him because he's a relative unknown, but what better way to introduce yourself to an international audience than beating a superstar? 

a57se
a57se

@Bent @a57se 

Hey, believe it or not...he got it right!!

His editor must have straightened him out!

a57se
a57se

@Ceifus Hornswoggle @Brendan 

The team needs to implant a governor on his mouth...

harold
harold

On a touch screen didn't notice the d in there, thanks

Bent
Bent moderator

@Ceifus Hornswoggle @Brendan Harris has always been a solid every down linebacker and team leader.  When he got "paid" that accounted for the fact he was underpaid dramatically in the previous season but couldn't get an extension due to the limitations imposed by the 30% and reallocation rules in the uncapped year.  Once you take that into account his salary was commensurate with those players on his level.


FTFY

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se No, they don't. Best Jets teams were the teams where Rex talked. 

buckets
buckets

No worries. My phone sends some undetected embarrassing messages sometimes. Don't think I'll ever get used to it.

Bent
Bent moderator

@UncleJoesJetFarm Getting to Pacman is easy, you just have to turn blue and then when he comes after you change back to your previous color and eat him.

Brendan
Brendan

@UncleJoesJetFarm Actually, looking into it this is what I saw: 


"Algieri's purse "exceeds $1.5 million" and includes an upside of PPVsales, according to Joe DeGuardia, who promoted Algieri locally at the Paramount Theatre in Huntington. Algieri also retains his 140-pound title no matter the outcome."

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

That is a causal fallacy. Rex talking is a given whether the team is good or not.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se That's not true considering he stopped talking this way for all of last year and much of the previous season. 

levi
levi

@UncleJoesJetFarm  Wow, great opportunity for Chris. Anybody stepping in the ring with Pac obviously deserves it.

Brendan
Brendan

@UncleJoesJetFarm I wonder if he took less of a base pay to keep his belt. That ensures he gets at least one more big money fight. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se You don't find it odd that you say something, it's proven wrong, so you just chop that piece of your stance off and repeat yourself? 


You think there is no connection between Rex setting the bar high for his team and them fighting like hell to make him look right? We've already established that Rex's players love him and would do almost anything not to let him down. Why is it false to claim that Rex setting these goals for the team, stating them publicly so they're on the record, pushes his team to meet them? 




Ceifus Hornswoggle
Ceifus Hornswoggle

@UncleJoesJetFarm @levi 

He didn't train Tyson.  Sticking a gun to guys head for making a joke isn't training.  That stunt got Teddy fired and nearly blacklisted.  Teddy was a spoiled rich kid who never trained nobody.  Guys a stooge.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Ugh. I proved that your statement "Rex talking is a given whether the team is good or not. " is false. 


What about my point that the players rally around Rex's proclamations? 

Cooper12
Cooper12

@Brendan @a57se Rex Ryan said this in his book after the 2010-11 season, but the Giants went on to win the Superbow in 11-12l, the Jets missed the playoffs:


"When people ask me what it's like to share New York with the Giants, my response is always I am not sharing it with them - they are sharing it with me," Ryan writes. "Some people like to say the Giants are the big brother team and the Jets are the little brother team. I know it's going to (tick) off every Giants fan to hear this, but here you go: I really don't care.

"We came to New York City to be the best team in the NFL, not just the best team in New York City. And I have news for you: We are the better team. We're the big brother....It seems clear that right now we are the better team and we are going to remain the better team for the next 10 years. Whether you like it or not, those are the facts and that's what is going to happen."


a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

Brendan, you proved absolutely nothing. I am done with this discussion. believe whatever you want to believe.

I'll leave it for the next guy to deal with you.

Brendan
Brendan

@Cooper12 That was before the start of the '12 season, when Rex made wholesale changes to his public behavior and how he handled the media and predictions. I never deny that Rex used to make predictions (and for the record, I was a fan of them), I was arguing the idea that he's been the same since taking over the team. 

a57se
a57se

@Cooper12 @Brendan @a57se 

and the Jets proved it the last three years!!!

So glad rex said it!

MoSacks MoSnacks
MoSacks MoSnacks

You should drink some cranberry juice. It might help with the cramping your having causing you to write "causal fallacy" repeatedly.

a57se
a57se

@MoSacks MoSnacks 

Brilliant post!

Do you even know what it is?

MoSacks MoSnacks
MoSacks MoSnacks

Your question doesn't prove anything. It's a causal fallacy.