Daily Links: Mr. Versatility

  • Ex-Jet JB Shugarts signs with Lions [PFT]
  • Jets offseason so far receives a passing grade from experts [Star Ledger]
  • Jets “definitely need a pass catching tight end” [ESPN NY]
  • Jets determined to recover more fumbles this year [Jets Official Site]
  • Geno struggled to prevent, deal with unblocked pressure [PFF]



63 comments
Hoz
Hoz

new thread is up...

twin
twin

Is it possible for Kelvin Benjamin to play TE? Joker TE?

twin
twin

Chris Johnson released

twin
twin

Passing Grade for Idzik... He's the best....

WW85
WW85

Chris Johnson?

Hoz
Hoz

If we sign Johnson & get 1 of those big time receivers at 18 our offense will already be 10 times better than last year with a year under Geno's belt (just saying)

Hoz
Hoz

i'm hearing Chris Johnson will be released today, he has the same last name as our owner..

levi
levi

It baffles me why this team doesnt get more turnovers. Hopefully they turn that around.

Bytor
Bytor

For all every chicken little out there I'll repeat this for emphasis:


And in addition to retaining six of their own free agents, the Jets added a quarterback (Michael Vick), a wide receiver (Eric Decker), and a right tackle (Breno Giacomini). This week, they also added another receiver (Jacoby Ford) plus a cornerback (Dimitri Patterson).


My take is that they're covered. They can let the draft come to them and upgrade any position with the best available player.


Everyone else screaming for us to be paper champions, you're more than welcome to root for the Washington, Oakland or Miami clubs.

Disgruntled Jets Fan
Disgruntled Jets Fan

PFF link was interesting.  Jets were the 3rd worst at allowing unblocked pressure.  Bent, what do you think is the primary cause there?  


Interestingly, Seattle was the 2nd worst!  But Wilson was much better at handling it than Geno, of course.  And Kaep was amazing!

Vincent Winner
Vincent Winner

@a57se  I wouldn't complain with that.  On drafting a couple more O-Line, I'm okay with it if they feel like they are significant improvements over the gaggle of O-Line we drafted last year (aka, I think I'd be okay the Cyril pick at OG).

twin
twin

Hes 6'5 242

Hoz
Hoz

@twin  sometime today according to his agent.

Bytor
Bytor

@WW85  If they did this I would imagine it would be the end of Goodson. Can't see paying two guys with the same function.


Can CJ block? Pick up the blitz? 


I know he's caught a lot of balls, but can he catch?

Pat d
Pat d

Chris Johnson is not worth the money, can do better in the draft.

Evans or Lee at 18 would be great.

Brendan
Brendan

@Hoz  Yeah, it's all but official at this point. 

Brendan
Brendan

@levi  That's one of the biggest reasons I want Reed back. Did he wear a shirt about turnovers last year in the locker room? The guy preaches TO's like no one this team has had under Rex. In order to become one of those opportunistic defenses it has to be constantly talked about until its ingrained in the team's DNA. 

Marvel
Marvel

@a57se  

Actually.... I think the Browns have..

williamg1
williamg1

@Bytor  


I see. Idzik losses 3 starters so he brings in 2.5 starters. Apparantely, that leaves them in a position to go BPA.


All I know is: after hearing that Geno sucked last year because he didn't have any talent around him, if the Jets don't get a good WR, TE and possibly lineman, I don't want to hear that Geno wasn't provided pieces around him. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Bytor  Miami going for that vaunted back-to-back paper champ title. 

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@Disgruntled Jets Fan  The QB's failure to recognize where the blitz was coming from and make proper adjustment to protection . Sure some will blame Mangolds reads but he can't seethe Defense entirely like the QB.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Disgruntled Jets Fan  Easy - With Peyton number one, it's obvious that the ability to (a) set your line up so there is nobody unblocked and (b) recognized when somebody is unblocked and get rid of the ball before they get to you is paramount.


Wilson and Kaep being low down on surrendering unblocked pressure but high up on handling it doesn't surprise me because those guys would have confidence in themselves to recognize the pressure and avoid it before making a throw whereas that's not really an option for a guy like Peyton.

Hoz
Hoz

@Brendan @Hoz thinking hard about it, i would love to have him.

levi
levi

@Brendan Im all for Reed coming back but they need to incorporate a youngin at the FS position too, be it Bush, Jarret or a rookie. Oh and whoever it is should grow a gnarly beard as well.

Bytor
Bytor

@williamg1 @Bytor  Well they already got a muuuuch better receiver than anything they had last year in Decker. He may not be everyone's cup of tea but he's a huge improvement.


I agree on TE. I'd like for them to draft one by round 2.


Geno should be better in year 2. If he doesn't improve I'll eat my hat or my kid's Revis jersey.


O-line should be better. I'm hoping Winters keeps developing and Colon comes back healthy. Should be ok with depth since we drafted 47 offensive linemen last year.


I think they're set for the draft. For example, Patterson starts. They draft a CB by round 3. Develop him. If DP gets hurt, rookie comes in. If an awesome CB drop to them earlier, they'd be in the mix to start immediately. Either way they're covered. Should be a verrry interesting draft. Hopefully no remote control throwing...:)

Bent
Bent moderator

@Pat d  That's ridiculous Pat.


You have no idea the amount of work that goes into what they do and their database goes beyond anything that's ever been seen before outside of an NFL team premises.


Their grades, rankings and numbers can be misinterpreted and sometimes need context, but this is a professional, extremely well-run business with some of the brightest NFL minds around spearheading it.


They're no joke.

Pat d
Pat d

PFF is a joke

Brendan
Brendan

@WW85 Well, I would be very interested to see what CJ's yards before contact # is and how that compares to the rest of the league. He didn't seem to have much room last year. 


He might be getting old, so cutting his reps down, splitting them with Ivory and getting him more touches in space might make him a much more efficient player. 


I don't want him as a starter, just a split-touches scenario. 

levi
levi

@WW85 @Brendan  whether his body has begun to break down or not is a legitimate concern.

WW85
WW85

@Brendan He's ranks near the bottom on PFF in most categories. But maybe there's a lot more to him

Brendan
Brendan

@WW85 He's a near-perfect complement to Ivory? 

Brendan
Brendan

@levi I assume Bush's beard won't start growing in until Reed retires. Then they'll hug, a blinding light will shine and then Bush will be wearing Reed's beard. And thus continues the legacy of the Rex Ryan Safety Beard. 

Disgruntled Jets Fan
Disgruntled Jets Fan

@a57se @Marvel  Are they?


March 24, 2014 Agreed to terms with OL Paul McQuistan.

March 18, 2014 Signed WR Andrew Hawkins to a four-year contract.

March 18, 2014 Agreed to terms with RB Ben Tate.

March 13, 2014 Signed TE Jim Dray.

March 6, 2014 Agreed to terms with K Billy Cundiff.

March 5, 2014 Released WRs Davone Bess and Brian Tyms and LB Paul Hazel.

March 3, 2014 Designated C Alex Mack as the transition player for 2014.


Let's see, they signed a terrible OL, an underwhelming WR, an OK RB, a bad TE, and a kicker.  They did sign Whitner and Dansby, who are good, for some reason those aren't listed on their official transactions list.


In any case, that's two good signings and a whole lot of meh.

williamg1
williamg1

@Bytor @williamg1  I'll say it again: if Geno starts screwing up, don't say it was because he lacked weapons. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent  


My mention of him was a reaction to the comment that this applies to most rookies.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent  Both areas, but then so did/does Sanchez.

levi
levi

@a57se  I would think every rookie QB could improve on that and many other areas.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Disgruntled Jets Fan @Bent  


Wilson is arguably good at neither (a) nor (b), but doesn't need to be good at either because of his escapability.