Daily Links: One more day

  • Persistence paid off for Seattle coach after Pats, Jets failures [NY Post]
  • Rex Ryan offers little on Jets in limbo this offseason [The Star Ledger]
  • Joe Namath made the guarantee before Super Bowl III, but he wasn’t only Jet predicting a win  [Newsday]
  • Geno sees himself as Jets’ starting QB [ESPN NY]
  • Rex ‘can’t really say’ whether Geno will start at QB next season [NY Daily News]



110 comments
Joan Israel
Joan Israel

Regarding the item in the today's 'Daily Links', I'd like to touch a bit onl my recollections of the 18-point spread set for the Colts-Jets SB game: Apparently, back then, Jimmy the Greek set the odds for big football games like this one. He was the guy who set the spreads. One day during the week prior to the Super Bowl, he set forth in one of the NY tabloids his justifications for 18 points; he broke down facets of each team, and assigned points, plus and minus, to each element. At the end of that analysis, he came up with the -18 spread for the Colts. One of the factors he chose to look at was the QB play; he decided, in the match-up between Joe Namath and Colt starting QB Earl Morrall, there was no 'edge' to either QB! Neither Namath nor Morrall gave their team an advantage. Earl Morrall was just as good a QB as Joe Namath. Yes, you can look it up. I remember reading this item, and getting rather angry. I said to myself, "If this Jimmy guy [I really didn't know exactly who he was] makes idiotic assessments just like this one, and creates some phony-baloney point spread, and has so much influence out there, I can't believe any of this.' Right then, I knew the Jets were going to give those Colts a run for their money. 


Jim Israel

JCuratola3
JCuratola3

I really REALLY hope that the Jets take this kid in Dustin Vaughan. He is a qb at west texas a&m. Idk how he is so slept on. HE HAS IT. Rocket arm, quick release and he can progress through his reads really good. Look him up!! Take him with the a 6th round pick there is absolutely no reason not to.

pisano
pisano

Does anyone know what happened to the Yankee page on this blog? I sent a message to the contact about three weeks ago, and never got an answer.

__fense
__fense

Why do they even bother writing these articles? The three articles talking about the current Jets are two 'Rex Ryan isn't saying anyone's the starting QB' and one 'Geno thinks that he will be the starting QB'. Is there a single person here that was expecting any other response? I wish, instead of asking the same question they asked at every single press conference all year, they used the offseason to write more about game theory. You started to see it in the Star Leger article. Rex has game plans in his head to beat both of the teams in the super bowl, and he seems to have brought them up on his own. Pretty much any NFL coach is going to know way more about football than most of us, and it would be refreshing to hear what they had to say about strategies and what parts of the game they feel most important. In the offseason, the coaches aren't gearing up for a specific opponent, so you can actually get answers to the questions without them giving away the gameplan for the next game.

frustjetfn
frustjetfn

Geno's mindset is good and he says the right things, but his performance is not up to NFL standards. He says he's grown up but sending junk to get groupies is immature. Maybe he thinks he can be Brett Farve if he acts like an A-Hole, but my suggestion is to take the job seriously at least until you're earned it. - What ever happened to Pennington -like maturity and dedication to the game. His conduct was more than lip-service and made me proud to be a Jets fan.

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

A little more than 24 hrs until Peyton slays the bullies!

Peter Whelan
Peter Whelan

Vaughn is exactly the type of QB the Jets should try to bring in every year until they hit on one.

a57se
a57se

@JCuratola3  

Only one game tape on the guy but he does have a strong arm and looks the part.

Didn't see him throw anything but Darts the whole game but with that arm talent, definitely worth a late round pick as a developmental guy.

Nice find!

levi
levi

@Hanknaples  I think they the ones they are trying to sell Sanchez's potential to is would be trade partners. I was fine with the 5:1 swap too it just sucks that Sanchez didnt pan out. But the trade was good business. The other guys arent even in the League anymore are they?

Metsjets76
Metsjets76

If you don't remember it's called itisaboutthemoneystupid.com

Pat d
Pat d

I couldn't agree more but it is refreshing to hear Rex say that he can't name anyone the starting QB right now.

Brendan
Brendan

@frustjetfn  There is nothing in history that indicates you can't be a good NFL QB if you send wiener pics to a girl on the internet. 

levi
levi

@frustjetfn  Its the off season and you are still bashing a rookie QB who progressed and finished strong. Thats great that Pennington made you feel warm and fuzzy inside but hes gone now so you might as well get use to Geno. I have not seen where hes acted like am a-hole nor I have I read anything about him slacking or not taking his job serious. What has he done that has you all upset?

Zartan
Zartan

Fail. You're all in, nfl and the media marketing has done a good job. Seahawks take the game.

Pat d
Pat d

Denver is in for a big surprise

a57se
a57se

@Hanknaples  

Meh....I don't think  Martin is a dirtbag but he does not sound like he has a case at all.

Seems like he tried to fit in and finally realized the way he was acting just wasn't him......he just didn't have the guts to admit it and now he is trying to bring others down.....OK, I just convinced myself Martin is an educated dirtbag!

JCuratola3
JCuratola3

@a57se thank you sir, i really like his release too and how well he steps up in the pocket hes also a big guy. 6'5 .. his stats are good also

__fense
__fense

@Pat d  It's refreshing to hear him say something he was forced to say every single week, win or lose?

Pat d
Pat d

@levi

Frustjetfn didn't really bash Geno. At least I don't see it. He simply stated some facts and a little opinion.

Personally I think think that anyone that thinks Geno is the answer is kidding themselves.

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@levi @jake100  


The combo of Peyton and all his weapons and a league that favors the offense will be deadly. Also, the Broncos are a top 10 run defense and once they take the run game away, Wilson wont be able to do anything. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples Hank, look in the top right corner of each post, in light grey there's a "__ minutes ago" or "just now" that indicates how long ago the comment was posted. 

a57se
a57se

@Bytor  

I did say I hope I am wrong...time will tell my Jets fan friend.

Bytor
Bytor

Hey 57 just re-watched cle/nyj last night with my kid (dear lord nothing on the tube). My eyeballs tell me Geno has a significantly higher ceiling than Campbell.

harold
harold

I just don't see the point of the statement any player will eventually get benched if they don't produce.

You will go the Hall of Fame if you consistently put up All Pro Stats and stay healthly over a 10 to 12 year stretch.  See how easy that was.

levi
levi

@a57se haha well that explains why you dont like him.

a57se
a57se

@bradysucks  

I think Geno's ceiling is either Tavaris Jackson or Jason Campbell.......hope I'm wrong.

bradysucks
bradysucks

Stats don't lie about QB's

Sanchez and Geno both were pretty bad...and Geno will improve or he'll end up a backup QB

Brendan
Brendan

@harold  Agreed. Geno has the skillset to be successful in the evolved NFL, he needs time to see if he can realize his potential. 

harold
harold

@Brendan

As I have stated I have seen enough to know he has a chance.  At the QB position that is all you can hope for.  RGIII was supposed to light the world on fire.  Colin Kap was supposed to change the NFL.

It takes time just be realistic as I have stated you may have a good one

Brendan
Brendan

@Pat d  He doesn't. No one does. Harold is simply stating that no one has seen enough to determine he's definitely not the answer. 

Pat d
Pat d

A better question is, why on earth do you think Geno is the answer.

harold
harold

Why is Geno not the answer.  I remember because he couldn't put the team on his back like all the other rookies in NFL history.  For the record I don't remember one at QB that has.

Zartan
Zartan

I think Payton is the best QB to ever play the game he goes through games like, business as usual. If the Hawks are down and bound together any point in the game (or before), game will be a blow out. I doubt Payton can get that bound but he's able to excute a perfect game plan, that's what will determine the game.

levi
levi

@Zartan  Peytons emotions are not why he lost playoff games. His teams had poor defenses and he lost to some good teams.


"What is Peyton playing for?"  Well if you are insinuating he isnt motivated to win(which is crazy) then it makes your comment about his emotions moot. He wont be emotional if he doesnt care about winning.


 I do belive the Hawks really want to win just as much as Denver and every single other team thats ever played in the Superbowl. 

Zartan
Zartan

Peyton has a hard time dealing with emotion (why he fails in the playoffs). What is Payton playing for? The Hawks should win and if they really want it, they will.

levi
levi

@jake100 Im curious to see how the refs call this game. It is an outdoor old school kinda superbowl so who knows.

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 @levi  San Fran had a better run defense last year (or at-worst they were equal) and Lynch had 279 yards in 3 games (3.98 average). 4 yards/carry against an elite run defense is pretty good, if he can replicate that with a few long runs Seattle will be in good shape. 

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@levi @jake100  

You hit the nail on the head. If the Hawks can get solid production on the ground and the refs let their secondary play, it could go either way, but for some reason, I see the refs being a little tight as the league has changed favoring the offense and it is Peyton. It will be a great game and while I think the broncos will win, I would not bet money.

levi
levi

@jake100 I dont believe they can take the run game away. If the refs let the L.O.B. play their game it will be a good match up.