Daily Links: Predictable as ever

42 comments
metjetnet
metjetnet

Perhaps we were a tad hasty in firing Pete Carroll...

J. Smooth
J. Smooth

I just find it hilarious how often these guys make excuses for New England and harp on the Jets. Like this morning, I read a report "Brady dealing with hand ligament damage all year". How come ESPN and all the other networks cannot accept that the Patriots are outplayed by their opponents. When they lost to the Bengals, it was because the rain made it impossible for Brady, not because the Bengals flat outplayed them. When the Jets beat them, it was because of that stupid push play, which the refs had missed earlier in the game. The horror! It's not like the Jets were in range for a 56 yard field goal, and the Pats had been lucky that we'd missed. Then they lost to the Panthers, but they shouldn't have because of the last play of the game on a 50-50 call! If the Pats should've won, why did they need a hail mary in the first place? If they were so much better than the Jets why did they need to make a miracle drive down the field, and be benefactors of a BS OPI call on Hill, to get to OT? 


Yet, when they DO get the calls and pull out lucky wins, they're called resilient and tough. When they lose and cry about it, they're called passionate. But when the Jets win a close game, they're lucky and undeserving; and when they're upset after a tough loss, they're a dysfunctional, classless circus show.


Not saying it will change, it's just really darned annoying.

Bent
Bent moderator

OT: Tom Brady on Richard Sherman "We win with graciousness".


No you don't Tom.


Exhibit A:  "Thirty-seven points on the best defense in the league, s— my d—," - Bill Belichick

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

Was it just me or was manning the only QB who lived up to the hype they get yesterday.

The rest all looked pretty bad.

J. Smooth
J. Smooth

Cimini is such a dick. Listing his top-10 plays, he makes his top 3 all plays that clearly dig at the Jets and how lucky, stupid, and dysfunctional we are. #3 is the blocked punt, which although it ended our playoff hopes, pales in comparison to the other good plays our team had all year. #2 is the Lavonte David push, where he again ignores any possibility that the Jets deserved to win that game. It isn't like we outplayed them all game, and they got lucky on a missed tackle to take the lead as well. Then, number one, of course is that "pre-season debacle" that Cimini can't stop droning on about. He talks about Sanchez like he was our savior, and not the marginal starting QB that he was. He's nothing but a professional troll.


That being said, it's a cool segment to do. Bent et al, if you guys are bored during the offseason, making a list of the Jets top-10 plays of the year might be fun.

maynardfan
maynardfan

The loss to Buffalo was the worst of the 2013 season IMHO.  I think it also created a blueprint for other teams on how to beat the Jets.  It took Marty a few games (and a few guys coming back from injury) to get back in sync.  It will be good to have Pettine out of our AFC East hair if he gets the Browns job. 

Marvel
Marvel

Richard Sherman >>>>


But Bart Scott's was more epic.. slightly


a57se
a57se

I hope Pettine gets the Browns job.

jaygo
jaygo

@Bent or how about Bellicheat ragging on Welker?  Maybe then win with graciousness (not!) but they surely don't lose with graciousness.


Said it before and will say it again:  Pats are not the machine they once were.  Something has changed.  Maybe it's age, maybe it's desire, maybe they're too smug, maybe they can't cheat any more.  I did notice how the refs called them out twice on their patented illegal pick play.  That all said, Brady all season looked out of sync and Mr. Bill's defense looked like swiss cheese most of the year including yesterday.  Once upon a time, they took no-name NFL talent and produced stars in the "system."  Not this year.  Did you see Kraft sitting with Bon Jovi shaking his head in disbelief?  He knows something is rotten in Foxborough.



__fense
__fense

@Bent Speaking of which, can you believe Belichick had the nerve to complain about pick plays to the media. How many opposing CBs has he hurt by telling Welker to do the same exact thing? Maybe the NFL will finally start calling it, and the Patriots will have one more rule that they have to follow like everyone else.


It's like Mangini and spygate. He only knows about cheating because he was involved with it in New England.

MarshRandy
MarshRandy

@DrJonathanReefer yep, but Wilson and Kaep were going up against great defenses, and the Seattle O-line was miserable. Not many excuses for Brady 

djf1
djf1

@Marvel umm, sherman was being a d*ick. 

Scott was just excited.  How do you even compare?

Bent
Bent moderator

@Marvel Bart Scott talked about we and us after a great team performance.  Richard Sherman talked about memememememe after a game where he made ONE play and got called for two penalties.


Sit down and shut up.  25 will always come after 24.

MarshRandy
MarshRandy

@Marvel way more than slightly. Scott's was and will always be the most epic post game interview of all time 

jmactheman
jmactheman

@a57se I want him out of the division too.

Speaking of which, I heard on the radio late last week that Mangini is the frontrunner for the Miami GM job. Do we know if this is still a thing?

jake100
jake100

@a57se 

Yeah, get him out of the afce, he has talent and I dont want a Pettine coached defense after us twice a year.

Bent
Bent moderator

@jaygo @Bent What was the deal with Bon Jovi?  Is he a Pats fan?  If so, how did I not know this?  I thought he was a Jersey guy.

Bent
Bent moderator

@__fense @Bent It's hilarious.  In retrospect, instead of fining and punishing the Pats for Spygate they should have just made it legal for any team playing against them for the same period of time the Pats were allowed to get away with it. 

bradysucks
bradysucks

@MarshRandy @DrJonathanReefer 


Brady isn't the same QB without Hernandez, Gronk, Woodhead, & Welker. He lost some major weapons......


I thought Wilson made plays when he had to which is all you can ask against an elite defense like the 49ers.


Kaepernick screwed the pooch with turnovers.....but boy can that guy run and make things happen......Seattle has a great 2ndary also


When I think just how close the Jets were to drafting Kaepernick and Wilson it makes me feel like the Jets are just not "meant" to have a good QB......After all, Rex wanted to draft Kaepernick and Terry Bradway wanted to draft Wilson......Too bad nobody could convince Tannenbaum that Sanchez wasn't the answer.....

J. Smooth
J. Smooth

@Bent @J. Smooth He, and the rest of the Jets beat, seemingly refuse to accept any positives for the Jets as anything but luck. I've never seen a beat reporter who wants his team to lose SO BADLY. It's sad, really. 

J. Smooth
J. Smooth

@Bent Exactly. No class. There's something to be said for giving your heart to kick the opponent's you know what, but having enough cojones to shake his hand after the game. Sherman is always the baddest guy in town after a win, but nowhere to be seen after a loss.

Pat d
Pat d

Also if Crabtree is just mediocre then is it a great play.

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 I wouldn't mind it, the student will never surpass the master. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@djf1 @Bent Must like cheese.  And listening to his music, he clearly does.


(Yes, I know, that's a different Kraft).

djf1
djf1

@Bent don't think he's a pats fan per se, more that he's friends with Kraft for whatever reason.

jaygo
jaygo

@Bent Got me.  I suppose he accepted an invite with the Jersey teams on the shelf.  That said, very bad form for JBJ.

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

Bradysucks seriously hates ANYONE on the jets O and every other teams players are always better even when they aren't.

Kinda like him saying Edelman is better then Kerely.

__fense
__fense

@bradysucks So wait, Brady lost some major weapons and that's why he had a down year, but Geno only got to 8-8 with a bunch of guys that were free agents mid-season, and he's a bust?

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

Wilson fumbled twice. Figured you be the first to kill him.

Bent
Bent moderator

@bradysucks Don't completely agree with this take.  Between them Edelman and Amendola are every bit as dangerous as Welker, moreso even because there's two of them.


Gronkowski was available in the middle of the season and Brady still didn't look anything like his old self and Hernandez wasn't ever all that special.


Also, Vereen is a better receiving threat than Woodhead ever was for New England.


The old Brady would have made those guys he was working with into stars not used them as excuses.



djf1
djf1

@Bent@Brendan oh man, you're right, couldn't write a better one on purpose.


Brendan
Brendan

@Bent Hahaha, fair enough. Re-reading it now it's almost like I'm daring someone to make a joke. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Bent That first sentence has so much innuendo in it, my head just exploded, so I unfortunately cannot respond to the rest of your comment.

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent But Sherman's length is one of his best tools, so he can afford to misplay balls since he can get a couple extra inches if he stretches out. 


I'm not even trying to compare it to what Revis would have done, I just don't get people taking away from it. It was a game-deciding play against a good receiver who pissed Sherman off. The guy had a good game (being avoided for 95% of the game as a CB is a good day) and he's played as well as anyone at the position this year. I'm sure Revis will go into F-you mode next year and put up a season reminiscent of his ridiculous '09 campaign and they can just go back and forth being ridiculously good at CB. 


Sherman's a pleasure to watch, and I have a soft spot for the guy since he was a low pick that has played with a perpetual chip on his shoulder. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Pat d I agree it was a great play, although he kind of had to recover after initially being half-beaten.  Revis would have made that one look like a routine break up...or the ball would never have been thrown there because the receiver wouldn't have been half open when it was thrown.

Brendan
Brendan

@Pat d I don't care if he was guarding me, that was a great play. 

J. Smooth
J. Smooth

@Pat d And if he's such a sorry receiver why is Sherman on him?

jake100
jake100

@Brendan @jake100 

Yeah true, but in Pettine's first season, his D really starting clicking and coming together as the season went on. I could imagine what he will do this season with a year under his belt of geling and a few more D pieces. He did learn from the best, so I would love him out of of the AFCE.