Daily Links: Pretty, Pretty, Pretty Good

  • Joe Namath not all that impressed by Jets’ Geno Smith, says he’s ‘pretty good’ [The Star-Ledger]
  • Kyle Wilson Ready to Play Big Role [NY Jets]
  • If Jets can’t depend on Dee Milliner in Year 2, watch out [NY Post]
  • Brandon Flowers: “I am the best corner in football” [PFT]
  • NFL to prohibit non-standard facemasks for 2014 season [NFL]



88 comments
buckets
buckets

Lol, Brandon Flowers.

Ceifus Hornswoggle
Ceifus Hornswoggle

Asking Namath about Geno is like asking your grandpa to fix your iPad.

levi
levi

@buckets I see another twitter feud in Richard Shermans near future.

boomer
boomer

@Hanknaples Did Vernon Gholston suck because Mangini pushed the Jets to draft him 6th or did he suck because he just sucked?

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples People do not care that Rex called him that. Except for you, apparently. 

BDarc23
BDarc23

@bob Clearly the Minnesota coaches haven't read PFF from 2012

jetlife
jetlife

@tsjc68 If Brown Paper Bag isn't in your steady rotation then I don't want to know you

a57se
a57se

@Ceifus Hornswoggle 

Joe Namath has FORGOTTEN more about Football and playing QB than Geno will EVER KNOW!!!

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se  Geno's completion % of 55.8% is higher than any year of Namath's career, as well as his career completion %. Joe is speaking from experience when he criticizes Geno's accuracy, at least. 

tsjc68
tsjc68

@boomer @Hanknaples

Vernon Gholston didn't suck, he was actually totally awesome and would already be enshrined in Canton if the Jets wouldn't have stupidly fired Eric Mangini, Greatest Coach Ever™ and replaced him with that buffoon of a dunderhead Rex Ryan, the man who doesn't even recognize that Quinton Coples should not be dropping into coverage like an OLB.


Sincerely,

Hank and Sons, LLC

tsjc68
tsjc68

@jetlife @tsjc68

I wasn't saying Flowers does not have his moments of success.  He does.


Just saying that DJ Khaled screaming "WE THE BEST" does not in fact mean that he's actually the best.

levi
levi

@a57se I dont know about that. The game has gotten far more complex than when he played. Im not saying Geno has it figured out but some day he might.

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples So Mangini was so scared of a guy who wasn't a part of the Jets' franchise that Mangini let him influence him enough to pick a guy he didn't want? Oh. That's so much better. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples Wilson's expectations were to be a starting CB. He's not a starting CB, he's a slot CB. Rex's comment has nothing to do with that, Wilson's play did. 

bob
bob

@Brendan @BDarc23 

Could be all about nothing however when they 1st bought him over he was listed 2nd at left guard.So why the change.lol

BDarc23
BDarc23

@Brendan @BDarc23 Yeah, no doubt that it doesn't count yet. I just like to throw some "Vlad is a good starter according to PFF" jabs in there when I can

a57se
a57se

@levi @a57se 

Joe called all the plays on the Field..

How many QB's do that today?

Brendan
Brendan

@BDarc23 So if he wins a job with the team does that mean you'll stop using it? 

tsjc68
tsjc68

@a57se @levi

Joe called all the plays on the field in an era where having more INTs than TDs and having a completion percentage of 50% were considered not just "acceptable" but "elite".


So, yeah, it's impressive... but it's also not THAT impressive.


The bar of expectations was dramatically different.  Namath played in an era where getting a really bad play while gambling for a really good play was far more tolerable.

boomer
boomer

@a57se @levi That has almost nothing to do with the game knowledge of any of the QBs and the fact that the game has evolved into a game that is tightly controlled by the coaches.

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples And why did he fail to be that? Because Rex said they expected him to be? Or because he wasn't good enough? 

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples I'm not the one comparing a womanizing alcoholic to the son of god. 

Brendan
Brendan

@BDarc23 Well, he's going to get cut so you probably won't have to worry about that. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples Don't use my comments out of context to support your insane comments. 


And in the NFL, "failure" has varying degrees. Wilson failed to become an outside starting CB, but he's succeeded in carving out a role as a good slot CB, something in extremely high demand in today's NFL. It's not a pass/fail grade, it's too complicated for that. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples Please don't ever call me "Masser Brendan" again, thanks. 


Rex was wrong for saying that (which I don't even think he did, but I'm not going to bother looking it up). But saying that's the reason Wilson failed is idiotic. Mangini thought Anthony Schlegel was an NFL player. Is it Mangini's fault Schlegel wasn't? 

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Brendan @Hanknaples

And expecting him to be the best CB in the draft when Joe Haden went top 10, that was unrealistic.


You could argue that Wilson was the best CB left on the board, though.  Of all the guys taken behind him, only Alterraun Verner and Walter Thurmond are even remotely in Wilson's class.


That 2010 draft produced five legit NFL players at CB (Haden at #7, Devin McCourty at #27, Wilson at #29, Verner at #104, and Thurmond at #111).  And one of those five only stopped being a horrible bust after moving to safety.  (UDFA Sam Shields should be mentioned as well, though; he obviously panned out despite not being selected.)


No matter which way you slice it, we drafted one of the five actually useful CBs from that slate.   For all the hating on Kyle Wilson, at least we didn't waste R1#29 on Patrick Robinson, Chris Cook, Javier Arenas, Jerome Murphy or Amari Spievey.

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples Very easily, by copying my questions and acting as though they support whatever nonsense it is you are saying. Those questions were posed to try and force you into  speaking coherently and admitting that Rex's words didn't make Kyle Wilson fail to win a starting job. Kyle Wilson's play did that. 


Your never-ending Rex-hate is pathetic, tiresome and boring. "Oh, look, here's a random player that wasn't brought in by SUPER GENIUS ERIC MANGINI, MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE so I'm going act like a giant grey-haired baby and criticize the crap out of him and Rex on a Jets blog wah wah wah." 


Just grow up already, please. Or better yet, go buy a Pennington Dolphins jersey and leave us all alone. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples Hey dumb-dumb. I'll make this perfectly clear for you: 


The reason Kyle Wilson isn't a starting CB is because he's not good enough to be a starting CB. It is not because Rex called him the best CB drafted (which, again, I don't think was ever stated). 

a57se
a57se

@Hanknaples 

O-Lay, O-lay o-Lay O-LAAAAYYYYY!!!

I thought that was a soccer cheer, Hank!

a57se
a57se

@Hanknaples @a57se 

That's because the fans are bored when they sing that and are reminiscing about running with the bulls!

a57se
a57se

@Hanknaples @a57se 

I'm a member of PETA!!

People Eating Tasty Animals


I will pass on the bull fights...not much of a fair fight there.

a57se
a57se

@Hanknaples @a57se 

How many times do they stick the Bull before the Matador ever sees him?

Do the bulls get to do the same to the Matador?

Not a fair fight.

levi
levi

@Hanknaples  Im sure it is exciting but would be quite a culture shock for most of us.

levi
levi

@Hanknaples I worked in a slaughterhouse for a few months. Most people dont know thats how they kill them. I always thought it was odd that the next cow would just walk right in the pen after watching the one before it get killed.