Daily Links: The fate of the franchise




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BDarc23
BDarc23

I'll predict 7 sacks for Richardson, 9 for Mo and 9 for Coples and 0 for Barnes


williamg1
williamg1

I just found out from Cimini that the Marino fake spike was one of the Jets top plays. I guess I have a different definition of 'top plays.'

williamg1
williamg1

Things are getting chippy in the comment section. Training camp cant get here soon enough. 

jsadolph
jsadolph

BTW, The Running of the Bulls has started in Pampalona.  Will Rex mak a showing?

Bent
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levi
levi

@BDarc23 0 for Barnes? He will have 2 opening day!!!!

tsjc68
tsjc68

@BDarc23

I predict 9 sacks for Richardson, 9 for Mo, and 9 for Coples.


Sincerely,

Herman Cain

tsjc68
tsjc68

@williamg1

No.  I refuse to hear any more of that.  DO NOT DIRECT ME TO A LINK, I WILL NOT READ IT.


I just had a lovely holiday weekend.  I don't need Angryboy Cimini trying to poop in my cereal.

a57se
a57se

@williamg1 

I should have continued ignoring brendan and 68...

bob
bob

@Bent 


Dats Right.... Bents gonna delete you hiney dats right, than wat you gonna do about dat one . Dats Right.

BDarc23
BDarc23

@Bent We don't allow any outside condiments, jams or syrups in the restaurant and if I catch you in here with that again, I will confiscate it.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@a57se

According to the modern era sample size, Smith has about a 15% chance of breaking through to being a top-20 passer in just one season in the league. 


I'll take those (entirely unscientific, but whatever) odds.  15% is better than 0%, which is what most alternatives to Geno Smith available over the past two seasons would have presented us.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Read some guy speaking emphatically that something will not happen while using "sometimes" as his evidence? 

williamg1
williamg1

@tsjc68 @williamg1 I'm assuming Cimini is thrice married (and divorced) paying alimony and child support. That would explain his worldview. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se I'd rather you respond directly to my comments in your typically grating style than passive-aggressively refer to them to comments directed at others. 

Brendan
Brendan

@williamg1 Hopefully he sticks to stuff more his speed, like laying on the beach drinking alcoholic beverages and taking photos with fans. Once was enough for me, I don't want to sweat out whether or not my favorite team's head coach will live through the offseason anymore. 

tsjc68
tsjc68

@BDarc23 @Bent

Raspberry!


ONLY ONE MAN WOULD DARE GIVE ME THE RASPBERRY!... LONE STAR.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent Not having a great week this week tbh.


Hopefully I get back into things today.  I have an 80% completed BGA to try and finish.

a57se
a57se

@tsjc68 @a57se 

Compared to the Bleacher report piece or the GGN piece and the way Geno is extolled on this Blog, I'd say this article is more fact (scientific) based then most.

jaygo
jaygo

@Brendan @a57se Funny, there was a bunch of hoopla last year about that guy JJ.  I can't find it now.  He's a fantasy football guy accused more than once of posting articles shamelessly to sell his book, and his book was about how you only pick late round QBs in the draft.  I think he did win some fantasy football competition which got him some notice.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@williamg1 @tsjc68

I assume Cimini's editors promised him a lifetime supply of mom jeans if he keeps writing the same inflammatory dreck.


Dude's gotta eat.  Gotta eat mom jeans.

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

Oh, you mean when I do what you did when you were ignoring me it is not OK?

williamg1
williamg1

@Brendan @williamg1 I'm confident that if Rex suffers a life threatening injury, a couple beers and a shot of something good, would probably heel him up. Maybe a bong hit or two. 

bklyndude
bklyndude

@a57se 

Geno is extolled on this Blog

I don't think anybody thinks Geno is a can't miss player at his position,  but rather people see the possibilities that he can be good enough to play in this league which is as hard to find as an elite QB in the NFL.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@a57se @tsjc68

That it refers to actual facts doesn't mean that 15% number was arrived at in scientifically sound and statistically accurate ways.


Nonetheless, the main point stands:  whatever odds you give Geno of "getting it", be they 5%, 15%, 25%, 35%, whatever, they're better odds that we end up with a legit "good" NFL starting QB than pretty much all reasonably available alternatives over the past two years.


Geno was a good prospect last year and remains a good prospect this year, and we got him without having to use a first rounder, and if he pans out, we hit the jackpot; if he doesn't, we move forward with someone else.


All in all, a pretty good gamble.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se How? 


He's saying that Geno won't become a good QB while acknowledging that there are multiple cases of players on his list that became good QBs, one of them arguably became the best in football (Brees). 


There are also plenty of players using that metric who posted good scores who are awful QBs (McGloin, Leinart). 

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent Part 4 of a project the scope of which keeps growing...

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

You are using the "I found an exception or two so therefore you are completely wrong" argument again...

The guy points out that the overwhelming majority of QB's who had as bad a season as Geno had last year don't usually amount to much. He gives Geno a 15% chance of ever becoming good...sounds fair to me.


Brendan
Brendan

@a57se I hope you realize no one reads this and agrees, except lunatics like Hank. One-lining a nothing response to posts doesn't prove them wrong, it proves you have nothing to say to them. 


The whole "can't be bothered to explain myself" act doesn't fool anyone. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se No, I'm not. 


I'm not saying Geno WILL be a good QB. I'm saying anyone saying he WON'T is basing that on speculation and little else. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Hanknaples @Bent @a57se You've got me there.  I've been absent from the site for a week, that's what I meant.

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples I was referring to Bent's BGA, since it started out as a one/two parter and has seemingly grown considerably since then. 

BDarc23
BDarc23

@a57se @Brendan Are we lining up a tag team championship match with Brendan/tsjc68 vs Hank/a57se?

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se He spent like 700 words telling you all the reasons that Geno is not going to succeed and at the end gives him "some chance" so he doesn't come off as shutting the door on it in the event he's wrong. 


He is not mincing words and he doesn't believe Geno will ever be that player. 

a57se
a57se

@BDarc23 @a57se 

No, I disagree with Hank more than I disagree with 68 and Brendan.

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples Yeah, because that's what leads you to fly off the handle, the lack of clarity in my posts. 

a57se
a57se

@Bent 

I thought all Euros' got 4 weeks vacation per year...

a57se
a57se

@Bent @a57se 

Ahhh...Did you lose your job? I thought you had one.