Daily Links: Whiz wit

  • DeSean expects to stay in Philly. [Boston Herald]
  • Andy Reid says Mike Vick still has plenty to offer. [NYDN]
  • Vick believes he is still a starter quality player. [NYDN]
  • Ryan praises his former quarterback Mark Sanchez. [Philly]
  • Rams interest in Sanchez is ‘tepid at best’ … kind of like mine. [SI]
  • The Jets win now mindset. [WSJ]
  • Woody Johnson honors Ralph Wilson. [NJ]
  • Idzik is looking to build a firm foundation. [NewYorkJets]




152 comments
Hoz
Hoz

New thread is up...

Hoz
Hoz

would you guys lose your mines if jets draft free saftey Calvin Pryor with the 18th pick?

nesboogie
nesboogie

Anthony Barr, Darqueze, and ODB are all available at 18. Who do we take?

Brendan
Brendan

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter  26s

Another sleeper team on Jared Allen: Jets. Rex Ryan spoke to Allen last week, Jets asst. Karl Dunbar coached Allen in Minn. Jets wanted in.


Interesting. 


OLB in the first round. TRADE UP FOR MACK. 

Hoz
Hoz

@a57se  would you give the eagles a 3rd rd pick for him & jackson?

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se  He's arguably an elite player.  I'm not surprised that's their initial asking price.

nesboogie
nesboogie

@Hoz  Nope, I think he'll be a star in the league.

williamg1
williamg1

@a57se  Wouldn't be surprised if Brady was throwing passes to him. 

joblowme99
joblowme99

@nesboogie

We would go Dennard as we could still grab Moncrief or Mathews in round 2. I don't think OLB will be drafted in first 3 rounds

Marvel
Marvel

@Brendan  

Schefter is starting to do this a lot.. why not name the other teams too?  he dis the same thing last week.

williamg1
williamg1

@Brendan  I can't stand when you post something 10 seconds before I do. You've done that to me for years. Stop it. 

rrjm
rrjm

@Brendan  

Unfortunately, I think it would take too much to trade up for Mack. He's most likely a top 5 pick.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan  Too late now.  He (Allen) is going to Chicago.

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent Arguably? The only argument against it being age, I presume? 

Hoz
Hoz

@a57se @Hoz  I agree I think pryor & antonio allen would make quite the duo.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Hoz  Man does that comment sound bad without context.


I know what you meant, but I'd reword that if I were you!

gbrownn
gbrownn

@Bent I don't think it's a smokescreen. He compliments the receivers they alreay have. He's a big guy and they are obviously trying to make one more run with Brady. A big fast guy like Kelvin fits their needs IMO

twin
twin

@a57se @nesboogie and what we do draft day  maybe a trade  idzik like to mix veterans with rookies

funkymonk
funkymonk

@a57se Right, Tanny had more important things to spend his 6th round picks on, like Tim Tebow.


I don't know if a punter is a better use of that pick than, say, a lottery ticket WR/RB/TE, but probably has a higher chance of resulting in a player who makes the roster. Obviously the upside for the lottery ticket is much higher.

Brendan
Brendan

@Marvel  He did it with Ware, also. I don't think he's just throwing the Jets name in there after the fact, what purpose would that serve. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent  I know, this came out after. My point is the team (or possibly just Rex) is clearly looking to bring in an edge rusher, if they were interested in Ware and Allen. 

Bytor
Bytor

@a57se @Hoz  Well maaaaaybe that young fella they have runnin' the ball.

funkymonk
funkymonk

@Disgruntled Jets Fan @Bent @a57se  Tried to see if anyone had figured this out. Apparently the Jets hold the record for most 1st round picks in a single draft, from 2000: Shaun Ellis (12th overall), John Abraham (13th overall), Chad Pennington(18th overall), and Anthony Becht (27th overall). Don't know about other rounds, or about most draft picks in general.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Marcus Armstrong @Bent @a57se  Gregg Easterbrook is obsessed with this idea too.


I don't think the Eagles have 31 players that are worth a third rounder.  In fact, they might only have a handful if Mathis and Jackson are below that.  McCoy, certainly, and some of their recent high picks, obviously.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent  


Maybe they want to trade 31 players for a third rounder each and monopolize the entire round!

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent Well, Mathis does have the benefit of Peters being on his left and McCoy in the back, but when I've focused on him during my Eagles game watching, he's always impressed me. It obviously helps that Shady is seemingly on the LB's in .02 seconds. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Bent  He grades out really well, but the fact he originally signed for 5m per year two years ago suggests he wasn't viewed around the league as elite.  Therefore, having not watched enough footage to form a proper view on him, it could be one of those situations where he benefits from easier assignments than some other interior linemen.  I don't know for sure though, hence: arguably.


For me, Brandon Moore fell into that same category, only he's a guy I had watched the film on so I could say that with more certainty.  Elite grades doesn't necessarily make you better than everyone who graded out worse than you.

Hoz
Hoz

@twin @a57se @Bent  we know they love there TE I wouldn't be surprise if they try to trade up for Ebron.

gbrownn
gbrownn

@twin I think a pass catchers for Brady are a going to be a priority

funkymonk
funkymonk

@a57se Normally I'd say spending any draft pick on a punter/kicker is a waste of a pick, but with 4 6ths (3 at the end of the round) I wouldn't be opposed. We'll still have 3 lottery tickets to cash in.

MPTG_Frank
MPTG_Frank

Yeah well, ummm, errrr, Mike Nugent with a 2nd.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @funkymonk  I think drafting a punter is akin to a sacrifice bunt.  Worth doing, but only if you're going to get some hits with your other at-bats.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Marvel  With Ware the report was that Rex wanted Ware but the team decided not to target him.  This seems stronger if the Jets "wanted in".

Hoz
Hoz

@Bent @a57se  1 thing for sure was Idzik wasn't going to give him 4 yr 32 mil with 15 guranteed lol.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent  Oddly worded tweet by Schefter, but the fact the Jets targeted him at all is noteworthy.