Daily Links: Workaholic

  • Jets looking forward to seeing how Thomas McGaughey will fix their special teams [The Star-Ledger]
  • Rex Ryan says Brian Billick pretty much wanted him to work 24/7 [NJ]
  • Rex Ryan, Tom Coughlin and John Harbaugh whine over News coverage of Jets coach skipping cut day [NY Daily News]
  • NFL.com: Jets Front Office ‘Seemingly Did it All’ [NY Jets]
  • Is Calvin Pryor this year’s Sheldon Richardson? [Jets Insider]
  • NFL Nation Buzz: New York Jets [ESPN NY]



187 comments
idzik4real
idzik4real

did y'all see the article on espn about enemkpali? interesting read on the prospect. he describes his lack of height as an advantage for an edge rusher.

jaygo
jaygo

You guys getting bent out of shape over a Shatz Football Outsider article?  That guy has been denounced by the entire football analytics community and is an avowed Pats fan.  That article coming this time of year is a publicity stunt to drive traffic to their web site and subscriptions.  By their own stated metrics, they can't be measuring anything more than last season's performance against the mean and applying that to the same analysis to the teams on next season's schedule.  If you understand what I just said, then you understand his 6 win prediction almost by definition is the same 6 win prediction most pundits had coming into last season. That guy is a joke.  Of course all the haters pick up on this.

nickballs
nickballs

damn i love this Pryor kid more everyday.....good article..

MarshRandy
MarshRandy

I wonder if the Jets become good again if the national narrative will revert back to what it was in 2009 and 2010, aka everyone loving the Jets. Seems like Pryor & Amaro's confidence plays into that

BDarc23
BDarc23

@williamg1  Hopefully it has a better impact than losing weight did for CC Sabathia

tsjc68
tsjc68

@jaygo  


You guys getting bent out of shape over a Shatz Football Outsider article? 


Not really, just two of us.  Their names are "Joseph" and "Richard", and they're best buds.

Bent
Bent moderator

@jaygo  "Unfortunately for the Jets, their offense is just as consistent as their defense, and it's been consistently awful."


Yes, it's BEEN consistently awful.  That's why they tried to make it better.

williamg1
williamg1

@jaygo  I think I'm the only person that accurately predicts us to go 12-4. 

williamg1
williamg1

@nickballs  It really will be nice to have a difference-maker at the safety position. Our D-line is loaded with them. Now we could have some on the backend. Oh, and Milliner is going to make us forget about Revis this year. That's my prediction. 

__fense
__fense

@MarshRandy  To the extent that that was true in 2009, probably. But I have a feeling that when we start winning superbowls and forming a dynasty everyone will hate us for being good. Too many Patriots fans in the media right now to stop that. Then after a few years there will be a bunch of famous Jets players on TV and stuff and they will like us even when we aren't good for a while. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@tsjc68 @jaygo  Everyone stop saying I'm out of shape.  Dieting isn't easy!

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Bent @jaygo  Geno Smith, Michael Vick, Tajh Boyd, Chris Ivory, Mike Goodson, Alex Green, Chris Johnson, Daryl Richardson, Tommy Bohanon, Chad Young, David Nelson, Greg Salas, Eric Decker, Jacoby Ford, Jalen Saunders, Shaq Evans, Quincy Enunwa, Zach Sudfeld, Chris Pantale, Jace Amaro, Terrence Miller, Brian Winters, Willie Colon, Oday Aboushi, Will Campbell, Ben Ijalana, Dalton Freeman, Breno Giacomini, Dakota Dozier, Brent Qvale, Marcus Zucevics...


It's not like Idzik hasn't been trying to make the offense better.  We've thrown a lot of spaghetti at the wall, and some of it is starting to stick.

Brendan
Brendan

@__fense 2010 is the only season I really think the Jets were media darlings. In 2009 they still were making fat jokes and whatever else, in 2010 they realized that this Rex fella might have some skill and the team won 11 games, so everyone was high on them to some degree. 

juunit
juunit

Bartolo Colon was born at the weight of 333 pounds and 3 ounces.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Bent @tsjc68 @jaygo  Gracias.


I now want him to make the team, simply for the diacritical marks.  YOU'RE NOT THAT SPECIAL ANYMORE, PIERRE GARÇON.

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@1969JAN12th @tsjc68 @Brendan @MarshRandy  


You might be on to something there, 69, but I think it goes deeper than just Sanchez suspect toughness and poise under fire.     


May not be the most popular comment, but I've mentioned before how I always got the impression from Rex's teams here in NY that they liked to play smash-mouth football until they met a team --- Baltimore and Pittsburgh come to mind --- that were better at it then they were...at which time the Jets were too often mauled by a bigger, badder bully.    


I think that's what has to and hopefully is changing now under Idzik and the new emphasis on toughness and physicality.   

tsjc68
tsjc68

@1969JAN12th @tsjc68 @Brendan @MarshRandy  


The small problem with that theory is that one of his best stretches of football came in the games immediately following that battering he took against the Ravens.


Mark Sanchez, Weeks 5-14, 2011 (just after the Baltimore game to just before the three-game losing streak to end the year):


57.71%, 15 td/6 int, 4 rushing TD, 6.75 ay/a, 86.8 rating

Brendan
Brendan

@1969JAN12th Good thing they went with the pass-heavy gameplan with Mangold out and Ngata foaming at the mouth. 

1969JAN12th
1969JAN12th

@tsjc68 @Brendan @MarshRandy  Rather then the week 1-14 or 15-17; could it be that the turning point in Mark's career was the week 4, 2011 nationaly televised game against the Ravens ? A 34-17 loss where Mark had 1 pick and 3 out of 4 lost fumbles. After being battered and busted, he seemed to never be the same QB after that game.

68...have you have seen his %, td/int, and rating before that game compared to since that game? 

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@williamg1 @Hazard2012 @tsjc68 @Brendan  


Perhaps so, given Idzik's fondness for keeping things under wraps, but it will be harder for the Jets to win 'true believers' back than it was to earn them the first time in 2011, when they were considered a serious contender.   Access won't matter as much as winning. 



BDarc23
BDarc23

@Brendan @BDarc23  It doesn't matter anyway because his upside seems to be capable starter in the bottom half of QBs.

BDarc23
BDarc23

@Brendan @BDarc23  No point in the Sanchez argument but I love defending the guy so... in 2012 Holmes/Keller hurt for the year, running game was bad, Sparano, Tebow coming in a few times a game, Sparano

williamg1
williamg1

@Hazard2012 @tsjc68 @Brendan  The key thing is: if/when the pundits get back on the bandwagon, the Jets won't provide them so much access like before. When everything became about the Jets, eventually there was an --inevitable-- backlash against that attention. 

Brendan
Brendan

@BDarc23 You can only say that if you buy into the fact he played the final month of 2011 through the preseason of 2013 with an injured shoulder. 

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@tsjc68 @Brendan  


The sharp decline in the ground game was startling, especially for a team built to run, control the ball and eat clock.  Not sure anyone --- Rex included --- really knows what happened in 2011.


I do think pundits, etc. will be more reluctant to jump back on the Jet bandwagon again, however, after having been 'burned' for it before.    The Jets will have to sustain and improve upon their success to become 'media darlings' again.   One game, one season alone won't do it unless they play for a trophy other than the Snoppy Bowl.  

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Brendan @tsjc68  I should have included rushing touchdowns (11 in that first period, only 1 in the second period) and fumbles (also a big spike).


What a meltdown.

Brendan
Brendan

@tsjc68 I still don't get it, and I watched it happen. 

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Brendan @MarshRandy  


Mark Sanchez, Week 1 2009-Week 14 2011:

55.78%, 59 td/47 int, 6.06 ay/a, 76.6 rating


Mark Sanchez, Week 15 2011-Week 17 2012: 

54.74%, 18 td/25 int, 4.79 ay/a, 65.5 rating


Oof.

Brendan
Brendan

@MarshRandy Yeah, I think that was still carryover from 2010's squad. 2011 started showing age cracks and depth issues. But you're right, at that point I don't think anyone would've predicted the ending that season would have, or the subsequent tough seasons after it. 

a57se
a57se

@MarshRandy

That was the year that hurt......we were 8-5 by the way.....had won three straight beating Buffalo, Washington and Kansas City.

MarshRandy
MarshRandy

@Brendan @__fense  in 2011 when we were 8-4 a lot of people in the media were predicting us to take control of the AFC East moving forward. Then we all know what happened