Daily Links: Young blood

  • Serby drops his mock. [NY Post]
  • Who could the Jets take in rounds four through seven? [NewYorkJets]
  • How many games will the Jets win in 2014? [NFLN]
  • Some Jets presented a Play 60 check. [NewYorkJets]
  • Rex talked about the Jets at a recent benefit. [NYDN]
  • Former foe Earl Morrall passed away this week. [NewYorkJets]



173 comments
borisjets
borisjets

1. Sign Santonio Holmes

2. Draft CB round 1

3. Draft TE rd 2

4. Draft pass rusher rd 3

5. go to playoffs!

WW85
WW85

If we redo the 2013 draft where would Keenan Allen go? He'd easily be top 10 and the first WR picked. Instead he went 3rd round and the 8th WR. Cody Latimer's draft profile reads very similar to Allen. But Latimer is faster and a better blocker. Allen had played better competition.

Cordell C
Cordell C

Most underrated fa move this year is the jets signing jacoby ford eliminates the need to reach for the speed receiver that all the experts are mocking to us get some secondary help in the first round or ebron if he drops we can get a guy like moncrief Robinson after round one I have faith in our gm to have a successful draft playoffs here we come

Brian Serviss
Brian Serviss

@borisjets  I absolutely would not like the idea of signing Holmes and just ignoring to draft a WR in the deepest WR class in years

Cordell C
Cordell C

What about fs I would like Holmes back doubt it happens though

borisjets
borisjets

@WW85  Keenan Allen was rated as a top 15 pick b4 last years draft.

a57se
a57se

@WW85  

Allen was considered a first round talent but fell because of injury....Latimer was never considered a first round talent until lately...........they have similar traits to a certain extent but so do Allen Robinson, Donte moncrief and Davante Adams.....

a57se
a57se

@Cordell C  

Who is Jacoby Ford going to beat out on this roster for anything?

borisjets
borisjets

@Cordell C  I really think we should sign Holmes and draft WR next year, and give Hill 1 more year.

Brendan
Brendan

@borisjets WW's point is that he should've been ranked #1, or close to it. 

WW85
WW85

I'm feeling some slight sympathy from you A57. Maybe Latimer is moving up your board too? By draft day maybe he'll be your #1? I'll keep working on it. LOL

borisjets
borisjets

But we need a CB badly, or else we will lose games 2-7. All the FA CBs have been signed. Holmes is still available.

dgdg
dgdg

And Joe Klecko!

Cordell C
Cordell C

Yea but limited roster spots

Cordell C
Cordell C

Bart Scott said that reed was going to take his time and make sure his body was right before he makes a decision on if he plays this year

Cordell C
Cordell C

Keller should be cheap I wouldn't be mad at idzik if he made these moves but we would need someone to block from the te position

a57se
a57se

@Cordell C  

I've wanted Ed back from the beginning...not sure whaat the hold-up is....he wants to come back!

Cordell C
Cordell C

@57 I rather have Ed Reed back but not as a starter have him teach the young corners and the fs we draft this year

a57se
a57se

@Cordell C  

There ya go...bring back Keller and use one of those comp picks to pick someone like Lyerla in case Keller is not ready!

Cordell C
Cordell C

I like Keller but after his bad injury last year I don't know how healthy/effective he will be this year I like lyerla from Oregon too with one of those 6th round comp picks

a57se
a57se

@Cordell C  

Why not bring back Dustin Keller as well then you could draft CB in the first and a pass rusher in the 2nd.....trade up in the 2nd or into the first for the pass rusher!

Then whatever is left draft BPA!

a57se
a57se

@WW85  

The experts were not wrong about Allen, he just worked out well.

Sometimes it goes thatw ay and sometimes it doesn't. This is not science.

WW85
WW85

The experts were obv wrong about Allen by waiting until the 3rd round. They may be wrong about Latimer as well

a57se
a57se

@WW85  

I said he is a fine prospect.....I just don't think he goes in the first round unles 6 or 8 guys have already been picked.

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

I thought the train of thought was self evident so I didn't type it all in......obviously it wasn't as obvious as I thought.

I have a difficult time typing without making mistakes all over the place so I tend to condense my thought into as simple a form as I can rather then type out long responses.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se And why couldn't this have been your original comment? Would've saved us both some worthless arguing. 

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

Acting like I said he could never change is what got it to this point. Your typical take whatever I say to the extreme to make something for you to argue about.

Do you think it is unreasonable to think he would have received good coaching four years into his career? I don't think it is. he hasn't seemed to respond to that coaching as of yet. He was let go by the team with the poorest roster in the league by people who have watched him every day of his career.

All I am saying is that him learning how to secure the ball better is unlikely........him being an improvement over what we have had the last year is a different story but IF he still shows that he has ball security issues, he won't last long.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Ugh. For someone who doesn't hesitate to tell people he's smarter than them, you really are dense. 


I said that if he's open to coaching, his issue of guys poking the ball out from behind can be fixed. 


You said that he's been in the league four years, so shouldn't he have received coaching by now. 


I replied with an example of a veteran, years into his career, doing exactly what you're asking about. 


Somehow I'm illogical in all of this. Okay. 

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

A one off example doesn't disprove anything but an absolute statement. Are you really so thick you need me to explain simple logic to you?

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Oh, if someone doesn't make an absolute statement you can't provide evidence to disprove what they're saying? Got it. 



And your dig about absolute statements is laughable and baseless, you're just being petty at this point and saying anything. 

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

Contrary evidence is fine when someone is making absolute staements like you tend to do, I rarely make absolute statements because I know better.

You often chide me for it but it is just a bit of wisdom you still need to learn.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se How else do you disprove something besides providing contrary evidence? 


You need to stop putting words in my mouth. 


Show me where I am passing it off as a done deal? 


It's a mechanical flaw in how he carries the ball, it is a relatively easy fix in principle. Whether he is able to change his game at this stage is a different question, but the fix isn't difficult. 

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

You didn't disprove anything....finding an exception only disproves blanket staements of exclusion which I never did.

Ford MAY take coaching and improve his ball security but after 4 years in the league the chances of that are pretty slim.....Ther is still a REMOTE chance which you are trying to pass off as a near done deal.


Brendan
Brendan

@a57se  


"Let's only take undrafted Free Agent QB's then since Tony Romo and Kurt Warner were both found that way!! "


It's absurd how childish you become when someone disproves some point you try to make. No one is saying anything remotely close to what you posted there, I don't even know how to address that. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se  It took me 3 seconds to think of an example of an established player changing part of his game to fill in a hole. 


So I guess the same coaches who taught Tiki to do that simply weren't coaching him in the years prior, when they were still his coaches, but he was fumbling? 

a57se
a57se

Let's only take undrafted Free Agent QB's then since Tony Romo and Kurt Warner were both found that way!!

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

There you go.....find the exception and think you debunked the legitimate concern........last I checked, Tiki Barber and Jacoby Ford were two totally different people.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se How many years was Tiki Barber in the league before he changed the way he carried the ball to reduce fumbling? 


Okay then. 

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @marc55 

He's been in the league 4 years, wouldn't you think he would have received proper coaching by now?

Cordell C
Cordell C

Dude runs a sub 4.3 40 he can also be our home run threat at wr

Brendan
Brendan

@marc55 IIRC, many of his fumbles came when guys got him from behind (when Ford would slow down to let blocking set up or whatever). That's a relatively easy mechanical fix, he just needs to be open to coaching. 

marc55
marc55

@a57se @BrendanFumbling problems can be fixed, but I agree that it is a concern.  If the guy is healthy, and he does not fumble a lot, he is by far the best KR on the roster at the moment, and he is a fine complimentary piece as a 4th or 5th WR.  If he cannot hang onto the ball, or if he gets hurt, they are paying him next to nothing anyway.

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

Well, I would be leery of the guy.....I don't think ANY HC likes guys who fumble.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se That's including punt returns, which he's less likely to do. He had a fumble once in every 22 touches as a kick returner. 

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

One fumble every 16.7 touches if you include fair catches is pretty bad, no?


Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Besides the fumbles (which you overblow), is there any reason he isn't the best KR on the team right now? 

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

Not if he fumbles......with his history, I would think it wouldn't take too many goofs to get him cut.