Daily News Live: Rex Ryan on Cromartie, Revis, Decker and more

Daily News Live talks with Jets Head Coach Rex Ryan about Antonio Cromartie, Darrelle Revis, Eric Decker and the rest of the Jets offseason.




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kniff
kniff

Sanchez 2014.........


All I can say say is GO GENO!!!

tobyshasta
tobyshasta

Last receiver of Djax's skill set to put on a Jet's uniform was Santana Moss... it's been awhile

a57se
a57se

@jaygo  

Actually we are discussing the situations and disagreeing without getting personal thanks to you and brendan and others who can't stand anyone who doesn't agree with them not being here! Hope you guys are having fun agreeing in the Chat room!

ww85
ww85

@tobyshasta  12.75mm in 2014?   This would be a bad trade IMO. The draft is deep at WR & TE. How do we pass on Revis who cost us no draft picks & $12mm & has no off field issues. But we want Jackson where we give up a 3rd rounder, costs $13mm & he's a head case? Makes no sense.

joemustgo
joemustgo

@ww85 @tobyshasta  Given that MM actually coached this guy for years, maybe his opinion should count for more than all of ours? If he vouches for him, do the deal today. If not, moot point.

metsjetsdu
metsjetsdu

@ww85 @tobyshasta  I personally feel that anyone thinking we were ever going to get Revis back is crazy. Woody Johnson was not going to get involved with those agents again, so to compare the 2 seems off to me as they are totally different situations. Djax is a head case sometimes, but may just need a change of scenery. One with a player's coach maybe ? Not saying its guaranteed to work but it's worth a shot considering  what we have put out there. We can afford it and if it doesn't work they can cut him after next year. Seems like a low risk high reward move to me . 

a57se
a57se

@jaygo @a57se 

This is funny, Bassett just posted a new piece on Jackson and If I go over there and state my opinion then I am just saying the same things over and over but the other people who have already posted there and who are going to post there have ALREADY stated their opinions on other threads and are just saying the same thing as well!

Are you going to complain about them as well?

Of course not...so why should I bother listening to anything you say?

a57se
a57se

@joemustgo @a57se 

Well, like some have said already, they may figure for a year he'll be on good behavior but you could have made the same argument for Revis....

joemustgo
joemustgo

@a57se @joemustgo  Whatever. His job is probably on the line as much as Rex's, so I don't think he'd sign up for DeSean unless he felt he could motivate him.

a57se
a57se

@joemustgo

And MM was there in 2012 when Jackson wasn't even attempting to run out his routes and basically quit on the Eagles.If he signs off on this guy, I'll have less respect for him as well.

nyj_scott
nyj_scott

@a57se @ww85@tobyshasta The top 5 WRs average 2 Mil more per season vs Top 5 CBs, but it you remove megatron its only 1 Mil apart. I'd say comparing revis and jackson are comparable in regards to salary, but value is debatable. Both would be a game-changing fit for us. Djax is top 5, not top 3 and would be a huge pickup. My concern is can Geno get djax the ball. Is his value to the Jets really that high? I'd take him for 8 Mil a season with the 3rd, but not over 10 Mil. I just don't see that happening.

hazard2012
hazard2012

@will898  


You might have a point re ball-hawking skills, but definitely not in press coverage.   Revis could well be the best ever in that regard.   Sherman, like Sanders, comes away with the ball more consistently; but I'm not sure either take the best receiver on the opposing team totally out of the game the way Revis can.  

hazard2012
hazard2012

@metsjetsdu @hazard2012  


My mistake.   Not sure I read your comment wrong. You can probably guess I was among those lunatics who wanted Revis back, warts and all, because of how it improved the team ...which I always thought was the purpose of making deals.   I think it both short-sighted and petty that Idzik and Woody never even explored those waters.    But I don't think the situations are all that different.  The potential impact on the team and the one-year $$$ were comparable, but obviously Idzik and Woody wanted no part of Revis, period.   


will898
will898

Sherman is probably better than Revis now. He has better ball hawking skills.

metsjetsdu
metsjetsdu

@ww85 @metsjetsdu  haha I know you weren't calling me stupid !! sorry didn't mean for you to think that, love the healthy debates ! 

metsjetsdu
metsjetsdu

@hazard2012 @metsjetsdu  If u read up , i said comparing them is stupid because its totally different.  Jackson is no where near revis . I never said he was. There was never any real decision to not bring revis back is what im saying. It was never going to happen. Rex may have wanted it but I highly doubt woody or idzik would have done it. Not sure what mean by lets be honest about what Desean is ? I said he's a head case. He is also a stud wide out. He can play for a year and if he succeeds great, if not you cut him. Not sure if you quite got everything i was saying. Essentially,  we were never getting revis, Djax is a risk im willing to take for a year. 

ww85
ww85

@metsjetsdu In no way was I calling you stupid. I think it's a stupid trade, but I understand why many people like it. Jax is a game breaker & he & Decker would be a powerful 1-2 with Kerley as well. I've had enough of the head case WRs. I found Tone to be totally insufferable. I'd much rather take a couple of TE/WRs in the draft & build. 

hazard2012
hazard2012

@metsjetsdu  


Not sure you want to compare Jackson to Revis.   Say what you will about the decision not to bring Revis back, Revis is not just the best corner in the league but the best corner to play the game since Deion Sanders.  DeSean Jackson is, by comparison, a good play-making receiver, but isn't, hasn't been and never will be the best anything in the NFL.  


Revis' problem is his ego at having to be viewed and paid as the best at his position.   Otherwise, he's a model citizen, team mate, locker room leader and consistently great performer.   How much of that can you say about Jackson?  


Having said all that I'd probably still make the deal for Jackson because of factors already stated, but let's be honest about who and what DeSean is.   

metsjetsdu
metsjetsdu

@ww85 @metsjetsdu  I don't see how its stupid. If we do the trade, then we can take a corner early or tight end. Still areas of weakness. We also now have another stud wide out who may or may not cause locker room issues and if he does then you cut him. 3rd rounders are no guarantee. It's ok to disagree and not want a player, but the logic behind is there. Revis' days as a Jet are over. That ship sailed and as long as Woody is owner I imagine it won't be coming back to port. 

ww85
ww85

@metsjetsdu  None of us know what's in Revis head. Idzik should have at least made the call esp if he's looking to trade a 3rd rounder for a $13mm head case WR just after Tone leaves. This is plain stupid.

lagoo
lagoo

Seems like drc liked the giants game plan and deal better. We didn't go after cro... Oh well old news

t__k
t__k

@a57se @t__k yea you never know i guess...maybe they like a guy like McCarron but think he may need a year w the clipboard...

a57se
a57se

@t__k @a57se 

Well if they think McCarron could come in and run the offense, then grabbing him in the second and taking one of the stud defenders or Sammy Watkins in the first wouldn't be terrible but that should only happen if they don't like any of the top QB's......not because they brought in Schaub.

t__k
t__k

@a57se @t__k I'm not sure if they did...I feel like Schaub could start for a team like the Raiders if they drafted a later round QB and groomed him a little.  Who knows w that franchise though.

a57se
a57se

@t__k @a57se 

I thought Oakland already signed two tackles?

I heard that same speculation and dismissed it because matt Schaub is not really a starter anymore....I'd be shocked if that is what Reggie MacKensie and Dennis Allen really think.

t__k
t__k

@a57se Boomer was saying this morning he thinks they're going after a tackle now that they have Schaub...interesting situation to me.  I saw that as really the only legit trade partner for him.

a57se
a57se

@t__k @a57se 

I doubt Sanchesz was anything more than a back-up plan for Oakland in case they didn't get Schaub.

I think Oakland drafts one of the top QB's and plans on having Schaub be his back-up and mentor.....

Sanchez really wouldn't suit that role.....

t__k
t__k

@lagoo DRC came here before the Giants.  Cro wanted to come back too.  Can't say all of them chose other teams over us.  We had options.

lagoo
lagoo

Who even knows how serious the talks are. I honestly don't see this happening. And I feel like all those other cbs chose other teams over the jets. Not much you can do about that.

t__k
t__k

@a57se any thoughts on the Schaub trade to Oakland?  I thought Idzik hada chance to trade Sanchez there.

a57se
a57se

@lagoo  

We are not limiting our discussion to Revis. there were plenty of other CB candidates we didn't sign because they were too expensive yet NONE of them got paid more than Jacksons contract.

lagoo
lagoo

Because he said he wants to build sustained success. Revis 1year 12mil. After that he'll want 17mil

a57se
a57se

@t__k @a57se@ww85 

I know, I've been dying to point that out but couldn't come up with a way of stating it without seeming like an A-Hole.

Then again with my rep on this Blog, who cares!

t__k
t__k

@a57se @t__k @ww85 I love how when we don't land a FA everyone on this site says how we're building through he draft or how teams overpaid.  Then Djax comes up and everyone is like YEA! Sign him!.  3rd rounder?  Sure!  And a 10 million salary!  Sure, sounds good!

t__k
t__k

@a57se @ww85 I'm not sure I would be in favor of it either.  Why did we pass on all of those FA WR's if Idzik wanted to add another member to the group before the draft?  To get a FA you just pay the man, in order to get DJax you gotta pay him and give a pick. 

a57se
a57se

@1969JAN12th @a57se

Wasn't Marshalls disorde one treatable by medication and the proper support staff?

There is no pill for being an A-Hole Diva.....

tobyshasta
tobyshasta

@a57se @tobyshastaA lot of head cases out there with more Super Bowl rings than the draft pick we bring in


I am not opposed to drafting a WR, just making a point

tobyshasta
tobyshasta

@a57se That's true, but maybe a change of scenery could change things. Philly and New York media can both be pretty brutal, so either way he'd be in a media cauldron

ww85
ww85

@tobyshasta He's a proven locker room problem as well as very talented.

tobyshasta
tobyshasta

@a57se @ww85I could live with the deal either way. Jackson is a proven commodity, something none of these drafts picks are. (Outside of Watkins)

a57se
a57se

@tobyshasta @a57se@ww85 

The Jets could cut him after one year with no dead money from what I've heard.....unless they restructure his deal after the trade.

tobyshasta
tobyshasta

@a57se @ww85@tobyshastaDoes anyone know Jackson's cap figures for the remainder of his deal? Pretty obvious Idzik doesn't want to burden other years cap space, and if this deal is gonna do that I just don't see him making it happen.