Daily News Live: Rex Ryan on Cromartie, Revis, Decker and more

Daily News Live talks with Jets Head Coach Rex Ryan about Antonio Cromartie, Darrelle Revis, Eric Decker and the rest of the Jets offseason.




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kniff
kniff

Sanchez 2014.........


All I can say say is GO GENO!!!

tobyshasta
tobyshasta

Last receiver of Djax's skill set to put on a Jet's uniform was Santana Moss... it's been awhile

ww85
ww85

Wonder if they let Rex take a CB in round 1?  But if Ebron falls to # 18, he'd be hard to pass up. I guess there are good CBs in round 2 as well.

Monty
Monty

Can they stop with Rex Ryan and the media.. I feel like they are trotting him out like some hostage video.

Rex how are they treating you?

yeah john is a great GM.. I love my corners...it is what it is ..

just let me see rex I need to see that he's ok..well get you a corner Rex I promise!



greggreen
greggreen

If jets can get jackson for the tampa pick 100th overall. We could trade for him see if he behaves and if not we can cut him after this year. Min risk for a big gain in Wide out talent 

ww85
ww85

@tobyshasta  12.75mm in 2014?   This would be a bad trade IMO. The draft is deep at WR & TE. How do we pass on Revis who cost us no draft picks & $12mm & has no off field issues. But we want Jackson where we give up a 3rd rounder, costs $13mm & he's a head case? Makes no sense.

hazard2012
hazard2012

@ww85  


Rex isn't making that call.   Idzik is.  That's already been made very clear.   But agree that there are fewer top quality TE's in this draft than there are DB's...so I'd certainly take an Ebron in the first, knowing I could still probably get Fuller or Roberson in the second and a McGill in the 3-5 range.   

joemustgo
joemustgo

@ww85 @tobyshasta  Given that MM actually coached this guy for years, maybe his opinion should count for more than all of ours? If he vouches for him, do the deal today. If not, moot point.

metsjetsdu
metsjetsdu

@ww85 @tobyshasta  I personally feel that anyone thinking we were ever going to get Revis back is crazy. Woody Johnson was not going to get involved with those agents again, so to compare the 2 seems off to me as they are totally different situations. Djax is a head case sometimes, but may just need a change of scenery. One with a player's coach maybe ? Not saying its guaranteed to work but it's worth a shot considering  what we have put out there. We can afford it and if it doesn't work they can cut him after next year. Seems like a low risk high reward move to me . 

ww85
ww85

@hazard2012 There's a lot of good TEs in the draft, but Ebron is supposedly in a class by himself. The CBs are a bit tighter

Monty Granito
Monty Granito

You cant say that until hes done it in the league. We dont need another maybe. ..we need a sure thing.

lagoo
lagoo

That's crazy djax is the fastest receiver in the nfl.

1969JAN12th
1969JAN12th

@a57se @greggreen  I just don't see how you can compare Beckham (no NFL TDs) & Jackson (32 Career NFL TDs)...

Jackson had 9 receiving TDs by himself last season, our team had 13 total receiving TDs.


You have a headache?..take an Advil, I want Jackson. 

hazard2012
hazard2012

@a57se @greggreen  


In an ideal world, I'd take Beckham or Cooks, over Jackson, too, but lurking behind the WR issue is the question re the QB position for the Jets, overall.   


Along with the obvious goal of scoring more points to win more games, the Jets have to determine if Geno's their guy moving forward.  We know the league is QB driven, and there are questions Geno has to answer.   The only way to do that is to give him some weapons, strengthen the line, and see how he does.  


Isn't who he does or doesn't do that with almost secondary?   That's why there's something to be said for taking Jackson for a year, see how it works.  If he doesn't, or if Geno doesn't, get rid of both and move on.   

joemustgo
joemustgo

@a57se @joemustgo  Whatever. His job is probably on the line as much as Rex's, so I don't think he'd sign up for DeSean unless he felt he could motivate him.

nyj_scott
nyj_scott

@a57se @ww85@tobyshasta The top 5 WRs average 2 Mil more per season vs Top 5 CBs, but it you remove megatron its only 1 Mil apart. I'd say comparing revis and jackson are comparable in regards to salary, but value is debatable. Both would be a game-changing fit for us. Djax is top 5, not top 3 and would be a huge pickup. My concern is can Geno get djax the ball. Is his value to the Jets really that high? I'd take him for 8 Mil a season with the 3rd, but not over 10 Mil. I just don't see that happening.

hazard2012
hazard2012

@will898  


You might have a point re ball-hawking skills, but definitely not in press coverage.   Revis could well be the best ever in that regard.   Sherman, like Sanders, comes away with the ball more consistently; but I'm not sure either take the best receiver on the opposing team totally out of the game the way Revis can.  

hazard2012
hazard2012

@metsjetsdu @hazard2012  


My mistake.   Not sure I read your comment wrong. You can probably guess I was among those lunatics who wanted Revis back, warts and all, because of how it improved the team ...which I always thought was the purpose of making deals.   I think it both short-sighted and petty that Idzik and Woody never even explored those waters.    But I don't think the situations are all that different.  The potential impact on the team and the one-year $$$ were comparable, but obviously Idzik and Woody wanted no part of Revis, period.   


will898
will898

Sherman is probably better than Revis now. He has better ball hawking skills.

metsjetsdu
metsjetsdu

@ww85 @metsjetsdu  haha I know you weren't calling me stupid !! sorry didn't mean for you to think that, love the healthy debates ! 

metsjetsdu
metsjetsdu

@hazard2012 @metsjetsdu  If u read up , i said comparing them is stupid because its totally different.  Jackson is no where near revis . I never said he was. There was never any real decision to not bring revis back is what im saying. It was never going to happen. Rex may have wanted it but I highly doubt woody or idzik would have done it. Not sure what mean by lets be honest about what Desean is ? I said he's a head case. He is also a stud wide out. He can play for a year and if he succeeds great, if not you cut him. Not sure if you quite got everything i was saying. Essentially,  we were never getting revis, Djax is a risk im willing to take for a year. 

ww85
ww85

@metsjetsdu In no way was I calling you stupid. I think it's a stupid trade, but I understand why many people like it. Jax is a game breaker & he & Decker would be a powerful 1-2 with Kerley as well. I've had enough of the head case WRs. I found Tone to be totally insufferable. I'd much rather take a couple of TE/WRs in the draft & build. 

hazard2012
hazard2012

@metsjetsdu  


Not sure you want to compare Jackson to Revis.   Say what you will about the decision not to bring Revis back, Revis is not just the best corner in the league but the best corner to play the game since Deion Sanders.  DeSean Jackson is, by comparison, a good play-making receiver, but isn't, hasn't been and never will be the best anything in the NFL.  


Revis' problem is his ego at having to be viewed and paid as the best at his position.   Otherwise, he's a model citizen, team mate, locker room leader and consistently great performer.   How much of that can you say about Jackson?  


Having said all that I'd probably still make the deal for Jackson because of factors already stated, but let's be honest about who and what DeSean is.   

metsjetsdu
metsjetsdu

@ww85 @metsjetsdu  I don't see how its stupid. If we do the trade, then we can take a corner early or tight end. Still areas of weakness. We also now have another stud wide out who may or may not cause locker room issues and if he does then you cut him. 3rd rounders are no guarantee. It's ok to disagree and not want a player, but the logic behind is there. Revis' days as a Jet are over. That ship sailed and as long as Woody is owner I imagine it won't be coming back to port. 

ww85
ww85

@metsjetsdu  None of us know what's in Revis head. Idzik should have at least made the call esp if he's looking to trade a 3rd rounder for a $13mm head case WR just after Tone leaves. This is plain stupid.

lagoo
lagoo

Seems like drc liked the giants game plan and deal better. We didn't go after cro... Oh well old news

t__k
t__k

@a57se @t__k yea you never know i guess...maybe they like a guy like McCarron but think he may need a year w the clipboard...

t__k
t__k

@a57se @t__k I'm not sure if they did...I feel like Schaub could start for a team like the Raiders if they drafted a later round QB and groomed him a little.  Who knows w that franchise though.

t__k
t__k

@a57se Boomer was saying this morning he thinks they're going after a tackle now that they have Schaub...interesting situation to me.  I saw that as really the only legit trade partner for him.

t__k
t__k

@lagoo DRC came here before the Giants.  Cro wanted to come back too.  Can't say all of them chose other teams over us.  We had options.

lagoo
lagoo

Who even knows how serious the talks are. I honestly don't see this happening. And I feel like all those other cbs chose other teams over the jets. Not much you can do about that.

t__k
t__k

@a57se any thoughts on the Schaub trade to Oakland?  I thought Idzik hada chance to trade Sanchez there.

lagoo
lagoo

Because he said he wants to build sustained success. Revis 1year 12mil. After that he'll want 17mil

t__k
t__k

@a57se @t__k @ww85 I love how when we don't land a FA everyone on this site says how we're building through he draft or how teams overpaid.  Then Djax comes up and everyone is like YEA! Sign him!.  3rd rounder?  Sure!  And a 10 million salary!  Sure, sounds good!

t__k
t__k

@a57se @ww85 I'm not sure I would be in favor of it either.  Why did we pass on all of those FA WR's if Idzik wanted to add another member to the group before the draft?  To get a FA you just pay the man, in order to get DJax you gotta pay him and give a pick. 

tobyshasta
tobyshasta

@a57se @tobyshastaA lot of head cases out there with more Super Bowl rings than the draft pick we bring in


I am not opposed to drafting a WR, just making a point

tobyshasta
tobyshasta

@a57se That's true, but maybe a change of scenery could change things. Philly and New York media can both be pretty brutal, so either way he'd be in a media cauldron

ww85
ww85

@tobyshasta He's a proven locker room problem as well as very talented.

tobyshasta
tobyshasta

@a57se @ww85I could live with the deal either way. Jackson is a proven commodity, something none of these drafts picks are. (Outside of Watkins)

tobyshasta
tobyshasta

@a57se @ww85@tobyshastaDoes anyone know Jackson's cap figures for the remainder of his deal? Pretty obvious Idzik doesn't want to burden other years cap space, and if this deal is gonna do that I just don't see him making it happen.

ww85
ww85

@a57se I've only seen the highlight reel & don't really know. Just listening to ESPN about him this morning

Monty
Monty

@a57se @Monty@Monty Granito I created a profile so these yahoos dont see my last name .. who knows .. I dont want idzik apologists showing up at my house :) my phone is still logged in through facebook

Monty
Monty

@a57se @Monty Granitoof course.. sorry I meant....I would personally rather someone who has actually done it against NFL corners then someone projected to do so. Sorry

hazard2012
hazard2012

@a57se @hazard2012  


We've all seen those flaws and cringed when he made them, just as we cringed when Sanchez made them.   But lets be honest, the Jets did their very best to hinder, confuse and otherwise screw with Sanchez's head.  Three different OC's in three years, Tebow, a neglected offense and terrible coaching all contributed to ruining whatever talent Mark had --- added to fact he came out too early and was drafted way too high.      


What's the point of them repeating the same mistake with Geno?   If you don't believe he's your guy replace him, but don't screw with him, and don't replace him with a has-been, like Vick, who can't play an entire season anywhere.   Go get your new 'man' in the first round.  

hazard2012
hazard2012

@a57se @hazard2012 @1969JAN12th @lagoo @greggreen  


Fair enough.   I personally wouldn't have picked him, either, but the Jets did and he became the starting QB.   He was ugly at times, last year, but he also showed flashes, so the jury's still out. 


It's still out because he finished strong, played behind a suspect line, made a lot of rookie mistakes that should be correctable and had the worst receiving corps in the league.  


So give him some talent to work with and see how it goes.   The last thing the Jets need now is to create another QB controversy and postpone or delay their assessment of Geno.  If they believe in him, let him play.  If not, get another QB with 18 and make Geno your 'veteran' backup.    

hazard2012
hazard2012

@a57se @hazard2012 @1969JAN12th @lagoo @greggreen  


I'm not debating Jackson's talent or what he could do for the Jets, just his attitude and effort on the field every game, every play.  Those issues are NOT debatable.  They're well established.   I think he's worth the gamble, but was also agreeing that there are other receivers in this draft, including Beckham and Cooks, among others, who could accomplish the same end result for the Jets for less money and less grief. 


My main point however was that this season's less about assembling our full receiver corps than it is providing Geno with weapons so we can evaluate him more than them.      

lagoo
lagoo

Duh I'm just saying your opinion whether humble or brash is silly

lagoo
lagoo

Beckam is golden Tate at best

greggreen
greggreen

@hazard2012 @a57se @greggreen  An underrated effect of this trade if it happens. If geno is the same qb he was last year with decker,jackson,kerley. his excuses are out the window and we know that QB is on the shopping list