Jets keeping a close eye on receivers in Indy

While we’re sure the Jets are paying attention every position and player coming through the Combine, Seth Walder of the NY Daily News perceives that the Jets might be paying special attention to the receiver spot.

Gang Green appears to be doing their due diligence with the wide outs at the scouting combine, to no one’s surprise. Florida State’s Kelvin Benjamin, Oregon State’s Brandin Cooks and Vanderbilt’s Jordan Matthews all said they have interviews scheduled with Gang Green. LSU’s Odell Beckham Jr. also said he was “pretty sure” he would have an interview with the Jets as well. All are possible targets for Gang Green in the early rounds, as are USC’s Marqise Lee and Texas A&M’s Mike Evans, who did not address the media Friday but have frequently been projected as a possible selection for the Jets in the first round in mock drafts thus far.

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

With Santonio Holmes about to part ways, Stephen Hill’s potential up in the air and Jeremy Kerley and David Nelson unable to do it by themselves, the Jets are primed to take offensive playmakers at the top of a loaded class.

Since the days of Keyshawn, Laveranues and Santana the Jets have never really had a top flight receiver that they drafted early and who became a large part of the offense.  The Jets need to make free agent additions to their roster to increase production of the passing game but they also need young receivers who can be playmakers on this team for the next six to eight years.

This class is extremely deep at receiver, and there might be as many as five or six first round pass catchers taken.  The Jets very much look to be in the mix to boost their passing game early in the draft.




137 comments
rock316nyj
rock316nyj

I think Benjamin has to be our target in round 1. Guy has all the physical tools to become a dominant true #1. Ebron might be a great pass catcher but blocking is suspect for a TE, and Lee might be more NFL ready but I don't see him being a true #1. Give me up the upside with Benjamin, then in round 2 I go WR again, either trading up for Matthews or Landry, or taking whoever falls to us. I'm OK with going Cumberland, free agent, and mid rd pick for TE. 

WR's next year, Benjamin, rd 2 pick, Golden Tate, Kerley, Nelson, Hill. :)

harold
harold

Some the top WR combine weigh-ins:

Your guy ODB Jr measured in at 5'11 1/4" 198 lbs, but had 10" hands.  Brandin Cooks pretty much measured in as listed (he was listed at 5'10") at 5'9 3/4" 189 lbs with 9 5/8" hands.

The rest

Benjamin 6'5" 240lbs, 10 1/4" hands

Mike Evans 6'4 3/4" 231 lbs 9 5/8" hands

Jordan Matthews 6'3" 212lbs 10 3/8" hands

Marquise Lee 5'11 3/4" 192lbs 9 1/2" hands

Allen Robinson 6'2 5/8" 220 lbs, 9 5/8" hands

Sammy Watkins 6' 0 3/4" 211 lbs 9 5/8" hands

Complete list on Walter football site

bob
bob

Wow Keyshawn, Laveranues, and Santana I remember those days and the day these guys where drafted. Been a long time almost forget how good it can be.


I really like Oregon States Brandin Cooks. Marty Mornhiweg type of receiver. Cooks great at defeating bump and run. another guy also comes to mind Javis Landry.

Cooks Kerley and Landry would be like having a running game after the catch.

I don't know however about Cooks and Landrys just how fast these guys are all though I think these to receivers are a little better version of kerley adding 2 more really scrappy type of players.

idothis2
idothis2

none of those TEs looked like a 1st rounder

williamg1
williamg1

So they cheated on Ebron's 40 time? 

rstysanchz
rstysanchz

trey burton looks like a slot receiver 

rstysanchz
rstysanchz

i think gilmore and  fiedowicz both have a little of everything that you would want in a te 

williamg1
williamg1

From the looks of his performance, Jace Amaro has decided he isn't interested in the combine 

kniff
kniff

Changing the subject a little...


If you guys could have either Holmes or Cro back at the Vets minimum (plus maybe a little) who would your prefer to agree to it?


I would take Cro... for a myriad of reasons.

williamg1
williamg1

I'm almost hoping the Jets draft Sam, just to test 57's patience. 

juunit
juunit

Yup, Michael Sam is a normal football player. He's referring to himself in the 3rd person.

Pat d
Pat d

You don't target one player in the draft. The media and some fans may look at it that way but the teams can't or they will be bottom feeders. It makes good press but it just isn t reality in the NFL.

rstysanchz
rstysanchz

@bob  lavernaeus was a steal in the 3rd round especially that his teammate peter warrick was picked 4th overall and did nothing 

bob
bob

@idothis2


The TE position is evolving  changing to a new type of TE in football they are becoming like receivers. I guess just read that some where...

Brendan
Brendan

@idothis2  I'm pretty sure a 6'4" 250 pound TE who runs a 4.6 is still an elite physical talent. 


Tyler Eifert went 21st at 6'5" 250 pounds while running a 4.68 (this was last year). 

juunit
juunit

@williamg1  

Yeah. Or, people on the internet have been overrating him the whole time. 

kniff
kniff

@williamg1  Sounds like the mocks could change drastically next week!!

bradysucks
bradysucks

Cro will not take the veterans minimum. You are dreaming. Plenty of teams will still pay Cro who will give the Jets a discount but won't work for nothing.

Holmes at the veteran's minimum would be an absolute steal for the Jets just like Calvin Pace was in 2013. Holmes would be as good of a 4th receiving option as there is in the NFL, especially if he gets healthy

Pat d
Pat d

Also blocking TE don't go in the 1st round

harold
harold

He is a big boy, if he runs in the 4.5 range at that size he may go top 16, instead of the late first many are projecting. 

bob
bob

@rstysanchz @bob

I think however I'm not sure I think Parcells drafted Laveraneus ..and yes sir he was a great receiver. WOW   Peter Warwick ha ..that was a big swing and miss.

harold
harold

For the record as well.  the 40 times are recorded electronically now at the start and the finish now.  In the past (I am pretty sure) the start was manual and the finish electronic.

kniff
kniff

@Brendan  and instead of taking Eifert, (who I was looking at) we took Richardson.... in hindsight ...great pick man!! 

We needed a TE last year yes, but now we really need one... we owe it to ourselves to not dis Ebron!!

idothis2
idothis2

@Brendan i guess since ebron hyped himself to the "illegal" level that i was expecting more blaze

idothis2
idothis2

@a57se @idothis2 something about the 2nd coming that i dont trust

Mateen Kemet
Mateen Kemet

@bradysucks  Cro was hurt. He is a #1 cb, albeit a 30 yr old #1.  Grimes got 5M and a healthy Cro is better than a Healthy Grimes.  So my guess is he will get at least 5M with some incentives to get him back to the 8M range if he plays well.   I think 3yrs 15MM, 7MM guaranteed

williamg1
williamg1

@bradysucks  Holmes would make a great #4, because he still has the ability to play like a #1 a few games a year. 

jdb4
jdb4

@a57se @marcus81 

Oh relax dude.  You may not like it but it's a historic moment.  His press conference was absolutely worth putting on TV.

Pat d
Pat d

No way. 40 time isn't going to leap frog Matthews over Evans.

rstysanchz
rstysanchz

@harold  jordan matthews is another guy that if he runs faster than expected he could leap frog mike evans on some draftboards 

rstysanchz
rstysanchz

@bob it was also the same year a certain ugg wearing qb was drafted in the 6th round and been a pain in the arse ever since  

bob
bob

@rstysanchz @bob


Wow thats right Now that was awesome draft 4 1st round pics what a year. THATS RIGHT PARCELS.

rstysanchz
rstysanchz

@bob he was in the same draft as abraham ellis pennington and becht.

harold
harold

I was thinking more like 5.0 vs. 5.2, but I am not one to quibble.

Bent
Bent moderator

@harold  Or for David Harris, the difference between a 4.9 or a 5.1 amirite?

harold
harold

I ran some track in school and at meets where you have hands times you always run like 2/10 of seconds faster in sprints which is a lot.

That like the difference bewteen a 4.4 and 4.6,

Big difference.

harold
harold

Ok cool.  I thought they had made the change.  I will file that away.  Thanks for the update

Bent
Bent moderator

@harold  I think they experimented with changing up the timing system but ultimately kept the old system because they didn't want to mess with the historical context.


As you correctly state, they use different techniques at pro days which often leads to faster pro day times.


Also, every team times the 40 using their own methods, so they will have their own 40 time for each combine participant which they might put more stock into that the official results.


So, even though Charlie Casserly had Ebron at 4.5 and the official time was 4.6, the Raiders might have him timed at 4.7 and the Chiefs at 4.4!!!

idothis2
idothis2

@kniff @BrendanEbrod said his speed was illegal. 4.6 isnt illegal. if ebron is gonna talk he has to come better than 4.6

idothis2
idothis2

@Brendan @idothis2 i wasn't expecting him to run in the 4.4s, but 4.6 is far from illegal.. i guess i was expecting at least in the 4.5s due to his talk

harold
harold

They have also changed the way they time the players, I posted it below.  Ebron may be timed at a 4.45 at his Pro Day.

Brendan
Brendan

@idothis2  He's not Vernon Davis, which people started throwing out there, but he also doesn't have to be. 

Mateen Kemet
Mateen Kemet

@williamg1 @bradysucks  Wait a second gentleman, a healthy holmes is not a #4 rec.  He is at worst a super #2.  The prob is for us he's been hurt last 2 years.  He was a no1 in Pitt and he was a #1.5 for us with Edwards. in '10 and '11.  He got hurt and he is a head case but lets not cheat the man of his skills.

rstysanchz
rstysanchz

@Brendan just saying its the 5th round michael sam is still on the board do you pick him up or do you look to see if their is a more well rounded linebacker that dosent get to the qb as good??

harold
harold

He has good burst on tape.  So I am eager to see that as well.  He also shows good speed to close to the QB.

Brendan
Brendan

@harold  It'll be interesting to see his 10-yard split. Barnes had an absurd 1.50 split, Sam isn't touching that. But if he can get around 1.6 (or slightly below), that'll mean he has that get-off you need in the NFL to be a legitimate pass rusher. 

bradysucks
bradysucks

If you think gay people are treated the same way now as 20 or 30 years ago I'd disagree. The world is far more accepting today....Sure things can always improve as far as tolerance but coming out in 2014 is not nearly as risky as it once was......

And again....This is a Money Grab and this player will make money off of this "coming out" media event regardless of whether or not he has success in the NFL. Michael Sam will be on Dancing With The Stars....Don't kill the messenger

harold
harold

I don't think he is a 4.4 guy though that is the difference.

Brendan
Brendan

@rstysanchz Yeah, he's a burst-type edge rusher, and he has one move that he wins regularly with (rip move). He doesn't do well going backwards, but if you want a pass rush specialist, he's a nice player for the mid-to-late rounds. In the sense that they're both primarily pass rushers and have similar size/burst combos, they are certainly comparable. 

rstysanchz
rstysanchz

@Brendan michael sam kinda reminds me of an antwan barnes type of player  

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks  Dude, what? 



Coming out in 2014? When there are states trying to pass laws justifying discrimination towards g*y people? 


Part of the problem is people think that, because it's 2014, this still isn't a big issue in this country. 

bradysucks
bradysucks

Michael Sam is making it a story and he is taking the focus off of football. My opinion is that he is using the media attention in an attempt to capitalize on the celebrity it brings him. It isn't like coming out in 2014 is as risky as it was twenty, thirty, forty years ago....

This is a money grab and an attempt to gain celebrity which he now has regardless of how the football thing works out.....

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se It's not historic? The first openly g*y player to go through this process? Okay, 57.