Jets training camp preview: Quarterbacks

We will be providing position-by-position breakdowns during the start of Jets training camp.  For now, we focus on the quarterbacks.

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

On the roster: Geno Smith, Michael Vick, Matt Simms, Tajh Boyd

Michael Vick

What role will Michael Vick play for the Jets in 2014?

2013 notes: Geno Smith was the Jets 2013 season at quarterback, with a few sprinklings of Matt Simms during Geno’s worst moments.  A lot has been written about Geno and his 2013 season, for two good pieces read Bent’s BGA on Geno’s use from the shotgun and this one after his win over the Browns.  While the stat line wasn’t pretty for Geno (3,046 yards, 55.8% completion percentage, 12 TDs, 21 INT, 4 FUM) he had a great finish to the season over his last four games putting up four touchdowns and just two interceptions.  While some might point to the ease of the schedule, his steady though not spectacular game against a peaking Carolina defense was the most compelling game for me.

Smith struggled much of the season, but showed promise over the last month of the season and as a result he enters training camp as the player that the Jets hope can hold onto his starting job.

Matt Simms saw time in mop-up work for Smith, but never gave anyone a compelling reason for him to become the team’s starter.

With Sanchez injured and David Garrard acting more as coach than viable quarterback the team didn’t have much of a choice?  Geno Smith or Brady Quinn?  There were no options for the Jets when Smith played poorly, which made the 8-8 team live and die by their quarterback.

Overall outlook:  If everything goes to the Jets’ plan, Geno Smith will be the starter for this team from Weeks 1-17. It’s not often that anything goes according to plan for any NFL football team, so no one should be surprised if Vick sees time during the course of the season.

Adding Michael Vick to this team give the jets a viable (though less compelling year by year) option on the bench.

Rex Ryan the cardinal sin for quarterback is turning the ball over and putting his defense in a bad spot. For Geno Smith, it comes down to his ability to hold onto the football and move the chains. If he can do that than Rex feels confident his rebuilt defense can do the job. If Smith can’t hold onto the football, then Rex will have a quarterback in Vick who might not be the playmaker he once was, but should be able to do enough to keep this team afloat.

Camp competition:  The field is obviously tilted towards Geno Smith, so don’t expect too much in the way of competition between Smith and Vick.  Vick has downplayed it, the coaches have talked it up … which is it?  Vick will likely see less snaps than Smith and that will be a function of Smith’s need to soak up more time on the field compared to Vick’s familiarity with the offense.  The only way I see a real competition is if Geno Smith’s turnovers are so bad they can’t be ignored.

Instead, where the competition might be fiercest will be at the third quarterback spot between Matt Simms and Tajh Boyd.  Since Vick only signed a one-year deal with the Jets, the team might be auditioning their third stringer as the eventual long-term backup for the team’s top quarterback.




32 comments
bobbyj
bobbyj

Who is picking the starting QB? Rex? Idzik? Another Jet decision? When Sanchez got thrown out to win the snoopy bowl, Sanchez went nuts on Idzik, not Rex. This whole shifting the QB comp towards Smith is a mistake. If they thought Smith could out play Mike Vick in camp, they would have had a strait up competition ( haven't I herd that phrase somewhere ) but they know Geno can't beat out Vick, not strait up, & that's a problem

BDarc23
BDarc23

I think Vick is the far better QB right now but if Geno proves me wrong with a great training camp then awesome.  I'll be rooting for either QB of course but I just feel like with Vick the team would have a guaranteed legit offense and with Geno it is a question mark.

mario3
mario3

Doesnt matter who starts... I think its a win/win situation with our QBs

bklyndude
bklyndude

@tsjc68

They overpaid for Sammy Watkins,  but they got themselves a good football player and he should make EJ Manuel look better.  Alonso injury hurts.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@BDarc23

I think Vick is the far better QB right now.


Offered without comment: 

Michael Vick, 7 games played in 2013: 77 for 141 (54.6%), 7/7 td/to, 8.4 ay/a, 86.5 rating

Geno Smith, final four games of the 2013 season: 68 for 116 (58.6%), 7/2 td/to, 6.72 ay/a, 83.6 rating


tsjc68
tsjc68

@bklyndude @tsjc68

Sad thing is, I really liked their 2014 draft class.  Preston Brown should step right in nicely for Alonso, and Ross C0ckrell remains a favorite.

bobbyj
bobbyj

Your leaving out about a decade of Vicks play, along with the fact that he took an Atlanta team a few plays short of the Super Bowl. by himself. Vick also had a monster year in Marty's system, statistically about 9 million times better then what Geno did last year. Read above post, if the Jets really thought that Geno could beat Vick out in camp, they would be having a strait up competition...but obviously they do not. Who is deciding who wins this shin dig, Rex ? Idzik ? Another Jet decision is coming....

mario3
mario3

Haha the rock was the best! DO YOU SMELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKING? Lmao

Seriously though, if Geno starts its because he is going to have a good camp, possibly better than Vick... If Vick starts its because is going outplay Geno... Its a win/win , i think we will be fine at QB as long as the o line plays up to its standard

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Brendan @a57se

A mid-80s quarterback rating is firmly in the middle of the pack, in the Cam Newton/Tom Brady/Matt Stafford/Andrew Luck stratosphere.


Obviously neither Vick's 86.5 nor Geno's 83.6 was over the full course of the season, which is the next challenge, but the takeaway is AT TIMES, both Geno and Vick were effective, productive, quality quarterbacks and AT TIMES, they were both pretty equivalent, so I'm not sure how/why BDarc thinks that Vick is "the far better" QB.


Down the stretch, Geno was just as good as Vick, and his coaches keep saying he's improved over the offseason.

Brendan
Brendan

@tsjc68 


63.0

75.3

78.2

66.9

66.5


Those are the QB ratings Rex has had in his five seasons here (for the player who started the majority of games, I'm not throwing Simms or Big Mac or Clemens in here). 


If Rex had a QB with a mid-80's QB rating he'd be in the playoffs every season. 

Brendan
Brendan

@mario3 If you don't watch these and laugh, you have no soul. 


My favorites are obviously the ones where the Rock's back hits the mat then he shoots back up like he's been electrocuted or something. The one where he does it and bounces off the ropes is the best. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se He lost his job due to injury, 57. Good call, though. 

tsjc68
tsjc68

@a57se @tsjc68 @Brendan

Steve Young couldn't beat out Joe Montana for a starting job.  Therefore, Steve Young must stink.


Sincerely,

a57se

High$ocietyJet
High$ocietyJet

Everyone loved The Rock's reaction to the stunner, they made it the universal reaction on the 'Smack down games.

BDarc23
BDarc23

@Brendan @mario3 Finishing moves are funny in WWE.  I always thought it was hilarious that Jake the Snake Roberts did the "DDT" and guys would be knocked out for 10 minutes...anyone else does the move and the guy bounces right up.  Stone Cold is classic though. The Stone Cold Stunner was big at the same time as Diamond Dallas Page and his "Diamond Cutter" in WCW.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asZxGvtpn_U

mario3
mario3

How do you post a youtube vid from the iphone? I got a even funnier one!!! Lmao

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Brendan @a57se

And while he was injured, Foles stepped in and went nuts (97.8 QB rating with a 5/0 TD/INT ratio), so it was easy to turn back to Foles after Vick returned at less than 100% and had a bad game in his first post-injury start.

bklyndude
bklyndude

@Brendan @a57se

You would think getting a decent backup QB would make people happy after last season especially the people that don't think Geno Smith will ever develop into a long term solution.

Brendan
Brendan

@mario3 copy the link and just post the link in here. The video should self-populate. 

a57se
a57se

@tsjc68 @Brendan @a57se 

Yeah and David Garrard was reasdy to return to Pro Bowl form that he never had....HAHAHA!

You guys are CLASSIC!

tsjc68
tsjc68

@a57se @tsjc68 @Brendan

Number of times we said "David Garrard will play at ProBowl levels again": zero


Number of times we said "Even an old, gimpy, diminished David Garrard is better than the craptastrophe of 2012 Mark Sanchez": a lot, and that statement remains true

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Classic 57. Swing and a miss on some random comment, so abandon that to talk about something he think he can win.