Geno Smith

Link: Increase in shotgun snaps an element in Smith’s improvement

It was no secret that the Jets offense played better during the last month of the season. Of course, the Jets were fielding it’s best complement of receivers by then and only one defense was truly good, it was hard to mistake the improvement of the Jets offense in December.

Michael Fensom of the Star-Ledger noted down the stretch, the Jets used a lot more shotgun formation for Geno Smith:

Much of the 2013 season for Smith and offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg could be considered a learning process. Both guys were in their first seasons working with the Jets and each other (that Smith was also in his first season in the NFL compounded the learning curve). It seemed to take time for Mornhinweg to adjust his offensive system to suit Smith.

In addition to calling plays that hinged on Smith’s ability to run the football and speeding up the tempo (frequently, the Jets didn’t huddle), one noticeable adjustment over the season’s concluding month was the Jets operated quite a lot out of the shotgun formation. Remember, in college Smith worked almost exclusively from the shotgun — so much so that quarterbacks coach David Lee had to teach him the fundamentals of dropping to throw after taking a snap from under center once the Jets drafted the quarterback.

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

Over time, Smith is going to have to get more familiar with taking snaps from under center, but for now it was good that Mornhinweg recognized this way to maximize his rookie’s effectiveness. Geno talked about how his coaches wanted him to play looser and worry less about doing everything right. Part of that had to be to make Smith worry less by putting him in familiar situations where he didn’t have to think so much… where he could rely on instinct.

The shotgun is a perfect example of that. One of the things we like about Mornhinweg is that while he has a system he would like to implement, he also understands that using his personnel where they are best suited is going to go further than trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

164 comments
jake100
jake100

When you really think about it, Geno was up against massive odds his first season. First off, as a raw rookie, he came into a team with a new OC that was learning an entire new system, he had a dearth of playmakers around him, and the had many of his wrs hurt, in which it was a constant rotation of no name wrs and chemistry was never developed until at the very end, and when that happened, Geno started showing marked improvement. We have to look at the entire situation and it was far from favorable, especially for a rookie. That being said, no way can we have a fair evaluation of him under those conditions. Everyone is lauding Rex under adverse conditions by getting to .500, but lets give the kid some credit also for showing his resilience and improving under very difficult conditions with very little around him.

dabronx
dabronx

Personally, I am not sold on Geno. One of the biggest risk to the 2014 NFL season is our QB situation. I don't completely buy this whole no WR/playmaker argument. Sure, it is a big reason why. However, more often than not Geno was culpable with a bad throw or bad decision then a WR with a drop ball or mis-route. He has shown signs a franchise QB, but so do allot of mediocre QB's. It is too early to tell. However, the Jets would be insane to just hand the QB position over to Geno. I wouldn't be surprised if Izdick drafted a QB relatively early in the draft.     

jake100
jake100

Here is another example of just how important the oline is , even for a seasoned top 10 QB. The Giants recently retired OC Kevin Gilbride points to the offensive line as the root cause of the Giants offensive woes last season.  "Whoever takes over in the offensive coordinator role next season will have a mess to clean up if the Giants can’t add talent to their offensive line this offseason."  - Kevin Gilbride


For a raw rookie like Geno, it is even more important and much of Geno's troubles aside from the natural progression of being a rookie, was the huge struggle by Winters. Winters unbalanced the entire line with his horrific play, as even a couple of other lineman graded out negative or just barely average. Hopefully Winters will be over the hump with another full training camp and the Jets will hopefully also address the oline this offseason, as depth is greatly needed. With this current oline and now Colons injury status/age, and if Winters does not improve, all's one has to ask, is what would happen if Howard, Brick or Mangold goes down? Answer: It would be a mess!!

jake100
jake100

I think it was a combo of things that had Geno and the offense performing better down the stretch. The biggest is the fact that Geno is gaining experience. Obviously a rookie will get better with more playing time. Another factor as the above article points out is that the wrs were healthy. Other reasons were Geno was using his legs more and seemed to be playing looser.  Also, Marty has been shown to get the maximum out of limited talent and it appears that he is getting in sync with what works best his offense. For whatever the reasons, it was nice to see the improvement down the stretch. Geno still has a ways to go but so would most rookies. I feel with another solid training camp under his belt and a bolstered offensive cast, that Geno will make a huge leap this season, I can feel it! The arrow is pointing up baby!

bob
bob

I would like 2 slices of cheese pizza and a diet coke please. Thank you.

harvlis
harvlis

For Geno to succeed, a number of things must happen.  They must get him some receivers who can get open.  Marty has to mix things up, design plays to get people open, and get Geno out of the pocket.  Our backs have to block better.  Idzik needs to up the quality of the O-line. And Geno has to learn how to read defenses, as he often misses the blitzing D-back.   

Mark Goldberg
Mark Goldberg

Seemed to me that they used plenty of shotgun early on as well.  

Stanley Bostitch
Stanley Bostitch

It seems like the same thing that has happened with analysis on our D for years by the press ("we're a 3-4, dammit, which means that so-and-so can't play here") may now be happening with the O with the under center v. shotgun stuff. Seems like the successful franchises are mixing things up and don't fit neatly into a single category. Whatever works - a little shotgun, some pistol, some grounding and pounding, some under center, why the need to classify? 

Stanley Bostitch
Stanley Bostitch

Hey Bent, notice you're a mod again - congrats! Or, about time! :)

JCuratola3
JCuratola3

Moral of the story we have no clue about this guy yet. Lets wait hope and see

Bent
Bent moderator

Yikes:


@MiamiDolphins: NEWS: The Miami Dolphins and General Manager Jeff Ireland have mutually agreed to part ways.

jake100
jake100

@dabronx 

Good post and I like your phrase" it is too early to tell" as that is for sure. I also agree, we need to bring in a viable vet to compete with him, for insurance, and  also, that will bring out the best in Geno as he is a fierce competitor. It would be hard for even many seasoned vets to be successful with a watered down supporting cast, let alone a raw rookie from a simple college offense. Lets just hope for the best and hope Geno with a bolstered supporting cast, continuity with  a solid OC, and another full training camp under his belt, can build on where he left off. Personally, I feel Geno is the real deal and we will see that this season. Ariba!

Pat d
Pat d

It would help if Geno was a more accurate passer. Geno often over or under threw open receivers.

djf1
djf1

@Mark Goldberg I thought they used shotgun frequently throughout the season. 

cunny
cunny

@Bent I suppose this London team will never have Sunday night or Monday night games?

cunny
cunny

@Bent Will never happen. I suppose this London team will never have Sunday night or Monday night games? I could go on and on and on.


Their best hope in the UK is to turn the the NFL there into what the EPL is here, a little niche market that shows games regularly on the team and gets a couple games in London a year.

juunit
juunit

@Bent 

From everything I've read and heard, even Goodell himself has said that a team in LA would come first. So I wouldn't worry about it until that happens. Who knows, maybe by then Goodell will be gone. 

levi
levi

@Bent I cant argue with a Mod. That looks good on you.

djf1
djf1

@Bent I'm still not taking that whole thing seriously.

jaygo
jaygo

@Bent 


Let's see how many stories we get about Phins having a coach and then hiring a GM who is "stuck" with the owner's guy and who, of course, wants his own guy.  Didn't they hire a coach in Tampa also even though they don't have a GM?

Bent
Bent moderator

Even yikesier ... here's the first comment on PFT's article about that (perfect storm alert) - 

  1. smarterfootball says:Jan 7, 2014 6:12 PM

    Bring on Eric Mangini!


JCuratola3
JCuratola3

Geno is accurate 1-3 bad throws a game are acceptable all qbs do it

Bent
Bent moderator

@djf1 @Mark Goldberg And tomorrow you'll both get to read the facts instead of a beat writer's gut perception.  :o)

juunit
juunit

@cunny@Bent 

Why not? Nobody in England is gonna watch anyway except displaced Americans who will happily stay up all night for a live game.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Bent  Especially after this:


Andrew Abramson ‏@AbramsonPBP2h

Former Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum would be a possible candidate with his connections to Dawn Aponte & Matt Higgins, former Jets peeps


BAHAHAHAHA.  That would be amazing.  The imperfect storm.

McGeorge
McGeorge

@Bent Please god - let the Dolphins hire Mangini.  Pretty Please.

djf1
djf1

@Bent hank should be buying the champagne. 

a57se
a57se

@Bent 

So another team is gonna force it's HC on a new GM?


bradysucks
bradysucks

@Bent


Mangini as the new Dolphins GM?


This would be Hank's wet dream....His favorite team united with his favorite coach!!!!!! Champagne popping in Naples!!!!!!!!

Pat d
Pat d

More like 1-3 a quarter

juunit
juunit

@Bent@juunit 

Boy, his tweet and the quote are quite different statements aren't they? 

Bent
Bent moderator

@juunit @Bent  It was an interview today.  Myers is right for once.


Bart Hubbuch ‏@HubbuchNYP1h

Asked if the NFL will have a team in London or LA first, Goodell says: "I don't know which one will be first, and I'm not sure I care."

juunit
juunit

@Bent@juunit 

I find it hard to believe Goodell said anything remotely like he "doesn't know" and "doesn't care" since this seems to be his life's mission. After p***ifying the sport anyway. 

Jim Israel
Jim Israel

@Bent@Brendan 

Tannenbaum? I'd love it. First thing he'll do, is trade 6 draft picks, move up to #5 position, draft a bum, and eviscerate his team for a decade. Bring him on!

McGeorge
McGeorge

@Brendan As a Jets fan, would you rather the Dolphins Hire Mangini or Tannenbaum?Or Both?  :-)

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent @djf1 @Brendan His career literally ended when Mangini got fired. I had pulled a double-take with that name drop, and that's rare. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent Oh come on, that would be just too much. 

Zartan
Zartan

Say it ain't so. Hoped the jets would have done so, Eric will be a great GM.