Geno Smith

Link: Increase in shotgun snaps an element in Smith’s improvement

It was no secret that the Jets offense played better during the last month of the season. Of course, the Jets were fielding it’s best complement of receivers by then and only one defense was truly good, it was hard to mistake the improvement of the Jets offense in December.

Michael Fensom of the Star-Ledger noted down the stretch, the Jets used a lot more shotgun formation for Geno Smith:

Much of the 2013 season for Smith and offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg could be considered a learning process. Both guys were in their first seasons working with the Jets and each other (that Smith was also in his first season in the NFL compounded the learning curve). It seemed to take time for Mornhinweg to adjust his offensive system to suit Smith.

In addition to calling plays that hinged on Smith’s ability to run the football and speeding up the tempo (frequently, the Jets didn’t huddle), one noticeable adjustment over the season’s concluding month was the Jets operated quite a lot out of the shotgun formation. Remember, in college Smith worked almost exclusively from the shotgun — so much so that quarterbacks coach David Lee had to teach him the fundamentals of dropping to throw after taking a snap from under center once the Jets drafted the quarterback.

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

Over time, Smith is going to have to get more familiar with taking snaps from under center, but for now it was good that Mornhinweg recognized this way to maximize his rookie’s effectiveness. Geno talked about how his coaches wanted him to play looser and worry less about doing everything right. Part of that had to be to make Smith worry less by putting him in familiar situations where he didn’t have to think so much… where he could rely on instinct.

The shotgun is a perfect example of that. One of the things we like about Mornhinweg is that while he has a system he would like to implement, he also understands that using his personnel where they are best suited is going to go further than trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.




146 comments
dabronx
dabronx

Personally, I am not sold on Geno. One of the biggest risk to the 2014 NFL season is our QB situation. I don't completely buy this whole no WR/playmaker argument. Sure, it is a big reason why. However, more often than not Geno was culpable with a bad throw or bad decision then a WR with a drop ball or mis-route. He has shown signs a franchise QB, but so do allot of mediocre QB's. It is too early to tell. However, the Jets would be insane to just hand the QB position over to Geno. I wouldn't be surprised if Izdick drafted a QB relatively early in the draft.     

bob
bob

I would like 2 slices of cheese pizza and a diet coke please. Thank you.

harvlis
harvlis

For Geno to succeed, a number of things must happen.  They must get him some receivers who can get open.  Marty has to mix things up, design plays to get people open, and get Geno out of the pocket.  Our backs have to block better.  Idzik needs to up the quality of the O-line. And Geno has to learn how to read defenses, as he often misses the blitzing D-back.   

Mark Goldberg
Mark Goldberg

Seemed to me that they used plenty of shotgun early on as well.  

Stanley Bostitch
Stanley Bostitch

It seems like the same thing that has happened with analysis on our D for years by the press ("we're a 3-4, dammit, which means that so-and-so can't play here") may now be happening with the O with the under center v. shotgun stuff. Seems like the successful franchises are mixing things up and don't fit neatly into a single category. Whatever works - a little shotgun, some pistol, some grounding and pounding, some under center, why the need to classify? 

Stanley Bostitch
Stanley Bostitch

Hey Bent, notice you're a mod again - congrats! Or, about time! :)

JCuratola3
JCuratola3

Moral of the story we have no clue about this guy yet. Lets wait hope and see

Bent
Bent moderator

Yikes:


@MiamiDolphins: NEWS: The Miami Dolphins and General Manager Jeff Ireland have mutually agreed to part ways.

Pat d
Pat d

It would help if Geno was a more accurate passer. Geno often over or under threw open receivers.

djf1
djf1

@Mark Goldberg I thought they used shotgun frequently throughout the season. 

cunny
cunny

@Bent I suppose this London team will never have Sunday night or Monday night games?

cunny
cunny

@Bent Will never happen. I suppose this London team will never have Sunday night or Monday night games? I could go on and on and on.


Their best hope in the UK is to turn the the NFL there into what the EPL is here, a little niche market that shows games regularly on the team and gets a couple games in London a year.

juunit
juunit

@Bent 

From everything I've read and heard, even Goodell himself has said that a team in LA would come first. So I wouldn't worry about it until that happens. Who knows, maybe by then Goodell will be gone. 

levi
levi

@Bent I cant argue with a Mod. That looks good on you.

djf1
djf1

@Bent I'm still not taking that whole thing seriously.

Bent
Bent moderator

Even yikesier ... here's the first comment on PFT's article about that (perfect storm alert) - 

  1. smarterfootball says:Jan 7, 2014 6:12 PM

    Bring on Eric Mangini!


bradysucks
bradysucks

@jake100


Nobody is suggesting we don't support Geno. This is in your imagination. You got married to Sanchez and now you are in love again with Geno. Falling in love with QB's is a mistake unless they are named Manning or Brees etc. You don't have to keep implying every day that we all want to give up on Geno. You also don't have to fall in love with the guy unconditionally and rule out looking at other good young QB's.......


I know I'm talking to a wall when I suggest these things to you.....but what the hell.....


Also please switch your screen name back to Joeyboy......I don't know why Bent keeps allowing you and only you to keep switching your identity....

harold
harold

Trade back and get a combo of playmankers as I posted below and we could have our offense set up for the next 5 years.

JCuratola3
JCuratola3

Honestly .. That's a petty good comment

JCuratola3
JCuratola3

Geno is accurate 1-3 bad throws a game are acceptable all qbs do it

Bent
Bent moderator

@djf1 @Mark Goldberg And tomorrow you'll both get to read the facts instead of a beat writer's gut perception.  :o)

juunit
juunit

@cunny@Bent 

Why not? Nobody in England is gonna watch anyway except displaced Americans who will happily stay up all night for a live game.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Bent  Especially after this:


Andrew Abramson ‏@AbramsonPBP2h

Former Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum would be a possible candidate with his connections to Dawn Aponte & Matt Higgins, former Jets peeps


BAHAHAHAHA.  That would be amazing.  The imperfect storm.

McGeorge
McGeorge

@Bent Please god - let the Dolphins hire Mangini.  Pretty Please.

djf1
djf1

@Bent hank should be buying the champagne. 

a57se
a57se

@Bent 

So another team is gonna force it's HC on a new GM?


bradysucks
bradysucks

@Bent


Mangini as the new Dolphins GM?


This would be Hank's wet dream....His favorite team united with his favorite coach!!!!!! Champagne popping in Naples!!!!!!!!

Brendan
Brendan

@JCuratola3 He's capable of them when he wants to be, which makes his act the rest of the time that much more irritating. 

Pat d
Pat d

More like 1-3 a quarter

juunit
juunit

@Bent@juunit 

Boy, his tweet and the quote are quite different statements aren't they? 

Bent
Bent moderator

@juunit @Bent  It was an interview today.  Myers is right for once.


Bart Hubbuch ‏@HubbuchNYP1h

Asked if the NFL will have a team in London or LA first, Goodell says: "I don't know which one will be first, and I'm not sure I care."

juunit
juunit

@Bent@juunit 

I find it hard to believe Goodell said anything remotely like he "doesn't know" and "doesn't care" since this seems to be his life's mission. After p***ifying the sport anyway. 

Jim Israel
Jim Israel

@Bent@Brendan 

Tannenbaum? I'd love it. First thing he'll do, is trade 6 draft picks, move up to #5 position, draft a bum, and eviscerate his team for a decade. Bring him on!

McGeorge
McGeorge

@Brendan As a Jets fan, would you rather the Dolphins Hire Mangini or Tannenbaum?Or Both?  :-)

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent @djf1 @Brendan His career literally ended when Mangini got fired. I had pulled a double-take with that name drop, and that's rare. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent Oh come on, that would be just too much. 

Zartan
Zartan

Say it ain't so. Hoped the jets would have done so, Eric will be a great GM.

Brendan
Brendan

@jaygo To clarify: I like Colon, would welcome him back, but he's not a multi-year option for me. So, if the team looks that route, I'm fine with that. 


Otherwise, I'd like them to bring back Colon, bring in another mid-round G and let that guy learn under Colon for a year instead of throwing him to the wolves like Winters. 


I'm also working under the assumption Campbell will take another year or two to develop, if he ever does. 

harold
harold

I agree sign a vet unless Colon comes back healthy (stability is just as important).

Brendan
Brendan

I think they have to take another guard this year unless they sign a veteran of reasonable age to a multi-year deal to be the starting RG. 

harold
harold

I have been posting that consistently that before Vlad was replaced the offense was NFL caliber.  Once Winters came onboard all Hell broke loose.  Glad to see the young man got it together somewhat to a least be replacement level by the end.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@BentIt seemed to me that Rex got the wrong lesson from the Saints win and thought that he could run his way into the playoffs.  So, the Bills through Miami games to start the second half were the aberration.  The Jets were 7-5 when they had more passing than rushing yardage and 1-3 when it was reversed, with the only win being against the Saints.


Also, in those 12 games, Geno threw 12 TDs to 14 INTs and ran for another 5 TDs (Jets were 6-0 when Geno got a rushing TD).  Of those 14 INTs, 8 occurred in his first 4 games.  Net those out, and in his last 8 games where the Jets had more passing than rushing yardage, Geno's had 8 TDs to 6 INTs and 4 rushing TDs.  Rex said he made a mistake reining Geno (and MM) in and he was right.

djf1
djf1

@jake100 @jaygo @Bent If you're looking for love on an online sports blog, you're in a world of disappointment..

Bent
Bent moderator

@jaygo @Bent Oooo...the moderator tag is back.  Y'all better start behaving yourselves.

Bent
Bent moderator

@jaygo @Bent  That's just it.  There's nothing wrong with Bassett posting an article about "adjustments" and their relative benefits and I can't blame Joey for riffing off that conclusions.  My issue is with the original article because those "obvious adjustments" may never have happened.


There just needs to be someone to challenge when people jump to conclusions prematurely on the basis of incorrect information.  It's not easy to have an informed discussed when you've been ill-informed.


Fortunately I am that man.

Bent
Bent

@Brendan @jaygo  He's already calling an article based entirely on a statistical fallacy ("one noticeable adjustment over the season’s concluding month was the Jets operated quite a lot out of the shotgun formation") a "Good Article!" but then again, that's not Joey's fault.

Brendan
Brendan

@jaygo Alright, I'll give it a shot, it's the offseason and I'm in a rare good mood. 


But I have no doubts he'll be ignoring Bent's analysis within a week and open the door for me disliking him again.