Link: Richardson snubbed in PFF’s race for rookie of the year

Just over a week ago, Jets rookie defensive lineman Sheldon Richardson was asked whether he’d like to be named as the rookie of the year. His response?

“I don’t care, I am that. Even if I don’t win it, I am that. You can’t tell me anything different.”

However, not everyone agrees. Mel Kiper went with Kiko Alonso as his defensive rookie of the year and Richardson wasn’t even included in the five nominees for the Pepsi Rookie of the Year award (which does also include offensive players).

Today, he was snubbed again as – despite having led the race all year – Richardson was named as the runner-up for the Pro Football Focus defensive rookie of the year award.

Richardson graded out much better than anyone else, including the eventual winner (Atlanta Cornerback Desmond Trufant) although PFF have said in the past that you can’t compare grades across positions. Their rationale for Richardson missing out is that he wasn’t very productive as a pass rusher, although one might suggest that had more to do with teams getting rid of the ball early to mitigate pressure.

Despite this lack of production, he was still more productive as a pass rusher as a rookie than Muhammad Wilkerson was in his rookie year and Khaled from PFF agrees this could be a good sign:

“Still, it was a tremendously impactful rookie year and if he can make the kind of leap in this regard that Muhammad Wilkerson made from Year 1 to Year 2, then you should be very scared about what that Jets defense might do.”

It’s good to end on a positive. Please show respect and behave yourselves if you head over to PFF to express your disappointment.





66 comments
djf1
djf1

It's a naked ploy, nothing more.  You could smell it coming a mile away.  I like PFF for the analysis, but they can shove it with this type of nonsense.


McGeorge
McGeorge

This is a positive!

Let Boss Hogg think he's not that good and he will want less to resign with the Jets! :-)

Kind of the opposite of what Rex  overly praised Revis.


Here is a question - in a redraft - which defensive player would go first?  I don't think it would be Trufant.

kniff
kniff

The secret here is to transform a very confidant "I am that!"...... to a new team mantra of "We ARE that!!" Helping to build the winning culture we all covet...


Richardson is a serious piece of the the "New" NY Jets that are giving every indication of being on the right trajectory....


2012-    6-10

2013-    8-8

2014   10-6  (hopefully this or even better) but even at 10-6 we are definitely in the playoffs where anything can happen!!

nesboogie
nesboogie

Who's gonna be our new OLB and ILB next year?

Jim Israel
Jim Israel

I may be in a distinct minority, but what's the point of getting all hot and bothered about any of these awards, i.e, Rookie of the Year, MVP, MVP-Super Bowl? What difference does it make? The 'voters'  are usually not impartial, they have their prejudices, like teams they hate, teams they root for, coaches they can't stand, etc., so the 'elections' are suspect to being with. Richardson got robbed? So what?


Just forget about awards. I pay them no mind. They're a waste of time.


It's all about wins on the field. And, every professional player or coach will tell you the same thing.

nesboogie
nesboogie

PFF had Revis the #1 DB this year

namvetjet
namvetjet

Good work on the PFF site gentlemen.


rstysanchz
rstysanchz

its comical that they went against there own stats and grades and picked trufant...id be shocked if  the droy award goes to trufant...i think the race to the droy is neck and neck between sheldon and kiko...the only thing thats hurting sheldon is linebacker is a flashier position...in the history of the award a linebaker won it 23 times.. dlineman including de's won it 13... dbacks won it 7 times 

Vinny Cammarato
Vinny Cammarato

Who cares. If we where fans of the some of these other teams we would feel that guy was the Rookie Def MVP. Bottom line, he is one of the best young players in football with a huge upside. I will take a dominant lineman over any other position as they can really effect every single play. Would not trade him for any other rookie, and that good enough for me

John Harris
John Harris

Hmm..... would you trade Milliner for Trufant if you had the chance?

r_in_ct
r_in_ct

Why do they even bother grading players if they're going to ignore those grades anyway and pick whoever they deem "best"? 

For a site that boasts how about being data-driven and analytical, a move like this goes against everything they do and weakens their credibility, IMHO. From there, it's a slippery slope to being just another ESPN.com-like jumble looking for the next manufactured story or Tebow sighting. Weak.

Bent
Bent moderator

@djf1 Honestly, it's not.  I spoke to PFF and that's just the way the vote went down.

Pat d
Pat d

Even the analysis should be taken with a grain of salt.

Pat d
Pat d

Now that would be a QB competition that Geno would surely lose.

Pat d
Pat d

As far as redraft, the question is did the Jets take the right player in the 2012 draft.

joemustgo
joemustgo

The only award I care about Wilkerson or Richardson winning is SB MVP.

joemustgo
joemustgo

Actually, Super Bowl MVP is the one award I really want Wilkerson or Richardson to win.

Brendan
Brendan


@Jim Israel For the record, I'm not "hot and bothered" by the snub. I'm more concerned that this is indicative of what the real vote will be and I'd like Richardson rewarded for a fantastic season. 


I know in the long run winning the award might increase his price tag (although I have my doubts this would really come up in contract negotiations), but I wanted him to win it because, simply put, I like him. Richardson is a selfless teammate (despite his trash talk, he cares a lot about the success of his mates), a great personality, he tries as hard as anyone on that field and he's relentless. I think that last part is why I love him as a player, he will literally dig a tunnel to the QB if you tell him that's the only way he can make a play. He's an insanely competitive player who loves the game, loves his coaches, loves the fans, he just loves everything right now (except opposing QB's and OL). I want that silver lining to a transitional year, something for Idzik/Rex to hang their hat on (not entirely, but you know what I mean) and I want the stigma that the Jets stink and everything thing about them stinks eliminated. It'd be just one step in that direction, but it'd be a step nonetheless. 


It'll also be turned into a Rex-bashing exercise with people bringing up the rushing TD's as another "failure" by Rex (he couldn't even get his guy DROY giving him offensive snaps for more notoriety LOL!)  and so on. We've seen this before, the only way this isn't some kind of headache is if he wins. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se I actually think this is fair, (although after taking this into account, I'd still rank Richardson #1 because arguably being on a weaker defense may have protected Trufant from having worse numbers).


If you're going to make the argument that Wilkerson deserves to be an all-pro in spite of his grades because those grades are a product of him constantly being doubled, then maybe you have to accept this argument too.

Bent
Bent moderator

@rstysanchz Well, they may have gone against their own grades, but they've always said you can't compare across positions and each of them were among the top rankings at their position (as one of their staff points out on the thread, Richardson is 5th out of 30 starting 3-4 DEs and Trufant is 7th out of 64 starting corners) whereas, so they haven't necessarily gone against their own rankings.

Bent
Bent moderator

@John Harris Nope me either.  One is ascending faster than the other.

Fartrell Cluggins
Fartrell Cluggins

@John Harris absolutely not. PFF mentions that Trufant had 15 PDs this season. Milliner had 11 in his LAST TWO GAMES. Milliner had his struggles this season but has the way higher upside.

Bent
Bent moderator

@r_in_ct You're not supposed to take the grades at face value though.  You're supposed to add context, which is what they've done in their reasoning for their selection.  Whether or not you agree with that reasoning is another matter, but the approach is correct IMO.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@r_in_ctThe other thing is that Boss Hogg being better against the run is like a rookie MLB batter.  You get to the MLB hitting for average, you stay hitting for power.  Boss Hogg would be on the bench if he couldn't stop the run; instead, he almost led the league in "batting average" as a run stopper at the 3-4 DE position.  He didn't have that much "pop" as a pass rusher, but you can see that he can expand his game from his base to be a 8-10 sack a year DE, maybe even better.  I don't know what PFF expects, but if he had 8-10 sacks this year, he would merit Pro Bowl and All Pro consideration.  Seems to me that PFF set the bar a little too high for a 3-4 DE because if he was in the top 10 DEs, as a rookie in sacks, while being the 2nd best against the run, he would've been one of the best rookie defensive linemen ever.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Pat d Hell yes.  Coples is awesome.  I'm more excited about his development than anyone.

Jim Israel
Jim Israel

@Brendan@Jim Israel 

Brendan, I like Richardson a lot too. He's a terrific player and seems to act exactly like any professional athlete should: he knows how blessed he is with talent, and enjoys every minute of playing football. But my feelings for him are irrelevant to my distaste for these asinine awards: Richardson doesn't need any 'plug-nickel' award to get himself motivated. He'll win a Super Bowl one day - that'll be the only football award he ever really care about.

Pat d
Pat d

Who cares. Just win a Super Bowl.

Jim Israel
Jim Israel

@a57se@Jim Israel 

'Race for the Rookie of the Year'? What?? Talk about a waste of time. And all that voting week-after-week with Richardson winning ahead every week and then losing at the end only proves my point: the voting is not on the level, and a joke, so the award is, in the scheme of things, not worth a damn. I'll read TJB  on this topic because I respect the writers, but otherwise I ignore all the hype.

And, one final point: Anyone who follows 'The Race for the Rookie of the Year' regularly has too much time on their hands. Get out of the house once in a while.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Jim Israel But Khaled wrote the weekly article and the analyst's vote decided the end resutl.  That explains the outcome not matching the rest of the series.

juunit
juunit

@Bent@a57se 

IMO, the best way to determine who wins is to compare their ranking to the average ranking of their position. Since grades don't compare across positions, find out which guy played at the highest level above his peers at his respective position. Then, whoever is on top of his peers by the highest percentage is the winner. 

SackDance99
SackDance99

@Bent@r_in_ct   They praise Rex for putting his linemen in situations where they can succeed against the run and then downgrade Sheldon because he "only" had 33 total pressures out of 509 pass attempts.  How about if his role in the pass rush wasn't to 1 gap and rush?  How about if it was to 2 gap and occupy blockers/stay home while the other guys pass rushed?  If Rex is so good, then wouldn't it be true that if he wanted Richardson to have better pass rush numbers, he could place him in position to do so?


Fact is that Boss Hogg is a beast, with a high motor, a killer first step and surprisingly solid technique.  Although he reminds me of Jerome Brown, he also has the versatility of Joe Klecko.  I'm sure if you put him at RDE and told him to pin his ears back and rush the passer, he would've hit double digits.  That wasn't his role and PFF is assigning him blame for something that might not have been within his control.  We do know that as a rookie he was charged with stopping the run and did that almost better than the reigning DPOY!


Was any other rookie in a core responsibility that close to the production of the 1st team All-Pro named to his position?  I doubt it.

Pat d
Pat d

Of course we don't know for sure but Geno doesn't look to be the QB to lead the Jets to the Super Bowl. In fact Sanchez looked more promising after year one.

Bent
Bent moderator

@psi1 So far he's been more productive, but I think Coples will hopefully catch Jones eventually.


It's interesting that Coples generated more pressure than Jones over the second half of the season both this year and last year.

psi1
psi1

Chandler Jones has been a better pass rusher.

Pat d
Pat d

One more question. How would you rate him compared to Ingram

Bent
Bent moderator

@Pat d He's on his way.  Hope he can stay healthy all year next year.

Pat d
Pat d

I sure hope so. You think Coples is the best edge pass rusher from the class of 2012 or that he could be.

Brendan
Brendan

@Jim Israel Haha I read it at work, so in essence I get paid to read PFF. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@jake100 If only you'd taken that attitude every time you quoted Wayne Hunter's grade ad infinitum.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent @jaygo I think he would have been the actual DROY if he didn't get hurt, so if that so far fetched?  Trufant is a much more "out there" choice IMO.

Bent
Bent moderator

@jaygo @Bent Yeah, that's why people are up in arms.  Sheldon had a much higher grade, but PFF have decided that Trufant's performance was more worthy, which obviously Jets fans don't like much.

Bent
Bent moderator

@jaygo 


Hang on a minute, I think we're talking about different things here.


PFF grades don't take into account system and assignment and are designed to remove subjectivity from the equation as much as possible.


However, their decision of who wins IS a subjective decision made by their analysts using this data in combination with their own views formed by all the football they've analyzed this year.


Your beef is with the analysts individually (well, some of them - it wasn't unanimous) and how they interpreted the data from the system, not the system itself.  After all, the system itself did have Richardson as the best.


Whether or not you agree with their reasoning, taking the results and trying to add context to arrive at your conclusion is the way it's supposed to work.  Everyone here is disputing that conclusion, not the grades.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent They have to do that, don't they, to justify the selection?

Bent
Bent moderator

@__fense Yes, not the whole time, but most of his targets were with Milliner on him.

__fense
__fense

@Bent @a57se @John Harris I just saw that and was going to say something about how 'one dimensional' he is.


And while we're doing this, Milliner covered Wallace for most of the snaps against the Dolphins, right? I know he covered Gordon in the browns game, and those two games accounted for 11 of his passes defensed, but I don't want to say something that isn't true.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent @John Harris  Funny you should say that.  Mike Renner, who actually works for PFF actually just asked this on the discussion thread over there:


"I'll just ask, as I assume you're a Jets fan. Which would you have rather had this season, an elite run stuffing defensive end that is fairly one dimensional or one of the top 10 cover corners in football?"


I think if we ran that as a poll here, it would get be unanimous for the DE, especially since none of us view Sheldon as one-dimensional.  Now, if you asked NON Jets fans it might get interesting.