Link: SI.com covers Jets team needs

SI.com’s Audibles blog wrote up the draft needs for all the NFC and AFC teams, here’s what Chris Burke wrote against the Jets.

New York Jets
Current picks: 18, 49, 80, 104, 115, 137, 154, 195, 209, 210, 213, 233

Needs: Cornerback, wide receiver, tight end

Guard is another spot the Jets would like to address. But they may have backed themselves into a corner by slow-playing free agency at cornerback, where they lost Antonio Cromartie and only later added Dmitri (sic) Patterson. Tight end and receiver go somewhat hand-in-hand: New York needs more weapons on offense, even after signing Eric Decker.

Fortunately for the Jets and many others, as has been discussed often, this is a deep draft at WR. That’s not so much the case at cornerback, at least in terms of finding a No. 1 or No. 2 option — so the Jets might lean that direction in Round 1.

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

It’s a fair point to say that there’s more potential starting WRs than CBs that will be available in the second round than the first, but there are still players that can be had at CB into the second, third and fourth round that I do think could help out the Jets early in their career.  Players like Pierre Desir, Stanley-Jean Baptiste and Marcus Roberson could be effective add-ins for the Jets.



183 comments
Jaime Rios
Jaime Rios

I think we can do DAMAGE , We should keep our picks and BUILD, It's plenty of great talent , Just have to find them . SUPER SLEEPER' , NC ECSU NIGEL RIOS CB /S , ALL - AMERICAN ,ALL- CIAA FIRST DEFENSIVE TEAM 3 years in row, He's the JVERRETTE of CIAA, 84/TKL / 64 SOLO / 6BLK kick . The DC PROSPECT is a true play maker , he be a lock pick , IF he went to any D1 that recruited him , MD / VT / WV /NEB / KANS.ST / RUTG / ILLI . WE KEEP SLEEPING on D2 BALLERS , THE MAN CAN flat out BALL , BALL HAWK , HYBIRD , TURN OVER  machine . At 5'9 180  He's a PLAY MAKER , He's a DIAMOND in ROUGH '' IDZIK needs to EVALUATE , PROYECT , This TALENT  JUST LOOK at his FILM . http;//www.hudl.com/athlete/o/44750/highlights/103373377 ,  His a steal in late rounds,6/7, if nobody STEALS HIM EARLY like 5 round ,HE'S to good '' GOD BLESS JETS NATION '

iamnace
iamnace

Does anyone think the Jets could give up there #2 & #3 for Clevelands 26th. pick in the 1st.round.

Then the Jets could fill 2 huge needs and maybe get Dennard and maybe Cook or Beckam

WW85
WW85

Anyone want Manziel if he falls to 18?

boomer
boomer

One of the interesting things about having the draft so late this year is watching some players rise and fall.  It always happens but it seems to be even more acute this year.


Take a guy like Cody Latimer who a few weeks ago was pegged as a mid to late round pick and who is now getting talked about as a potential first round pick mostly due to the fact that he finally got healthy after foot surgery and had a great pro day after missing most of the combine.  The only drill he did participate in at the combine was bench press and he beat all wide receivers with 23 reps.  He's also big at 6'2" and ran a 4.38 forty at his pro day.  


Don't be surprised if he goes ahead of a some of the "big name" receivers people have been talking about for weeks.

Pat d
Pat d

If the medical staff okays Lee he will most likely be the pick at 18.

ms77
ms77

I think after Watkins and Evans there are too many WR's in the next group to figure out who is the right pick. I am hoping jets go with Ebron at 18 and if he is gone then go with best cb available (hopefully Denard). Wait until round 2 for best WR available assuming Evans doesn't drop to 18.

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

OBJ stat splits scare me. He put great stats vs crappy teams, but barely performed vs good teams.


His last 4 games.


2.75 catches per game for 35 yard per game. no tds.

iamnace
iamnace

@Jaime Rios

Awesome Highlight reel,your right he is a ballhawk. I worry a little about his size though, they listed him at 170 lbs. He can certainly beef up in an NFL camp

NYBaller89
NYBaller89

@iamnace  that would be awesome then i would take dennard or cooks with the 18th pick and take austin seferian jenkins wit the 26th pick

Bent
Bent moderator

@iamnace  Yes I could see some kind of move like this happening.

Paul Samuels
Paul Samuels

@a57se The only thing is that a player must have the talent and traits. which normally mean they produce in college. They are the guys that go in round 1, early round 2/

WW85
WW85

@a57se  Did we draft Stephen Hill based on traits?  Because he had no college production. We drafted him based on potential which may be different from traits.

WW85
WW85

@boomer  I am totally guilty. Watched a bunch of tape on him. Guy can block, He catches everything, strong as an ox, terrific size & he runs 4.39!! He out-muscles CBs regularly. This guy can't get manhandled. It is insane he was a 4th rounder. Is it totally insane to take him at 18?  If you asked me last week, I'd have said I was nuts. NOW....I'm not so sure.

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@Pat d  


Please stop, Pat.   It's embarrassing.   We understand you like Lee...but the only way he's our first pick is if about 25 other guys ranked higher on our board get picked before 18...



MarshRandy
MarshRandy

@ms77  Ebron doesn't excite me at all to be honest. I'd rather take a quick receiver or a corner

bradysucks
bradysucks

@DrJonathanReefer  



Jarvis Landry was LSU's best WR


OBJ is still a player who can be a #1 WR but he may take some time to develop 

Jaime Rios
Jaime Rios

@iamnace @Jaime Rios  THE young man is 180 , He's a tremendous TALENT' , EVERY BODY SLEEPING on D2 BALLERS , THIS DC KID ,plays with a chip on his shoulders , The man started VARSITY IN 8 GRADE , We need play makers and that's what he brings , I SEE this KID BEING a GREAT player from 1 year from now, LIKE YOU said he will beef up once he become a PRO. THANKS , for the FEED back . He's the same man that shut TAVON ALSTON 15 YARDS ,in a DC / MD HIGH SCHOOL game . IDZIK BETTER STEAL THIS BEAST, LETS not forget ARRON GLENN / DARRELL GREEN / WHERE SMALL ,, it's how much you want it , He's a game changer , I'LL take him in late rounds over LAMARCUS JOYNER , RICARDO ALLEN , NEVIN LAWSON , ALL these early round guys , ECSU NIGEL RIOS IS A STUD . EAST CAROLINA denied him PRO'D , And inform ECSU, 3 DAYS before PRO'D that he will be a distraction for ECU PLAYERS on there PRO'D. We know D1 SCHOOLS don't want D2 STUDS ,To out SHINE D1 PROSPECTS. SOME BODY going to STICK draft , because he's a low risk HI REWARD LATE ROUND GEM', GOD BLESS looking forward to see him , DENARD / JVERRETT TANDEM ''  WOW .This KID is 3,4, round had he gone D1

marc55
marc55

@a57se @Johnsbodybyvi LedoEven if that is what it is, someone driving a new Mercedes around, that he has to borrow money from his agent to get, clearly doesn't get it in my book.  I am not saying this would prevent the Jets from drafting him, but it's still a negative.

Bent
Bent moderator

@WW85 @a57se  Did we draft Derrick Strait based on traits?

boomer
boomer

@WW85 @boomer  I was too.  I think we all get sucked into the potential mistake of focusing on the guys who either made a lot of noise at big time programs or are the focus of the "experts".  I didn't really start paying attention to him until I heard last week the Eagles are showing a lot of interest and seeing him as a potential for him at 22.


After watching some tape on him I have to say he is a pretty impressive player.

Pat d
Pat d

What is embarrassing is people posting that Lee will have to be a gadget slot receiver, which is what started this whole conversation. Last week what was embrassing were the claims that Lee uses his body to catch the ball when he can make catches over both shoulders and can go up and high catch the ball in tight coverage.

What is really embrassing is a bunch of Jets fans dismissing Lee that have obviously never seen him play.

On the other hand Hazard your reasons for not picking Lee that you listed about a week ago are quite legitimate.

And I guarantee there are not 25 players rated above Lee on any teams board.

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@MarshRandy @ms77  


Ebron should excite you.  So should ASJ, Amaro or Niklas.  All would be big upgrades over Cumby and nice complements to him, and dangerous play-makers that would take some of the focus and stress off our evolving receiving corps.   


Ebron's the only first rounder in the bunch, and one could argue the others will fit us just as nicely later, but upgrading TE is as important to improving our O as any WR.   

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

@a57se @DrJonathanReefer  

here is 5 of the best teams he faced.


vs Auburn, Florida, Alabama, Texas A&M, Arkansas and iowa (flordia and arkansas sucked tho)


40yards per game, 3.6 catches per game.


He disappears way to much for me to be comfortable drafting him.


the 5 teams he put up numbers vs combined won 21 games, which comes out to 5.8 avg. 2 of which were good teams.


He put up decent #s vs Kent State and Old Miss.


one was good, one sucked.

WW85
WW85

@a57se @Bent @iamnace  Washington makes a lot more sense than Cleveland. Cle wants a QB +1 as they build. Skins just need more picks

Cordell C
Cordell C

How is that a negative? Clowney was sitting court side at the heat playoff game seems like it common to take loans or gifts from your agent

WW85
WW85

@a57se I think speed is more important at CB than any other position in football. I like Desir but it's def a negative. If you don't have recovery speed, you're toast. Of course football IQ, tughness make up for some speed. But dont make it seem like it's irrelevant. 

WW85
WW85

@a57se To say that Brady's arm compares to Manziel is just plain wrong. Brady throws tight balls with velocity even deep 40yd outs. His arm strength is elite. Geno has an excellent arm as does Simms. Brady has a far stronger arm than Peyton. It blows Manziel away.

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@a57se @WW85  True it's ball placement not arm strength and yet arm strength definitely matters on quick ins and outs.

WW85
WW85

@a57se We lived through Pennington. Brady absolutely has a cannon & you need it in the northeast. His deep balls are rockets. Peyton does not, but Eli does.

WW85
WW85

@a57se I don't see the cannon arm. I think Russ Wilson has a much stronger arm. So many of JM's passes look like lobs to me. 

WW85
WW85

@boomer Strongest  WR, 3rd fastest WR(coming off injury!), More yardage every year, physical enough to get off the line. At Indiana, he didnt face top competiiton. I need to see more tape, but I hope the Jets are doing their homework.

boomer
boomer

@WW85 @boomer  Yea, I'm hoping that could be just a case of not wanting anyone to think they are interested.  I really like his game.

WW85
WW85

@boomer Bradway watched him in Indiana, but the Jets have not invited him for a visit. 

Zartan
Zartan

@Pat d  Lee would be my 4th WR but he was one of about 3-4 guys that i seen(combine) that did not blink when the ball hit their hands. Guys must be scared of the ball.

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@Pat d  


Well, maybe the 25 is on the high side...but I can think of 15 off the cuff who the Jets and every other team in the league would and should rate higher than Lee.   


It's less that I dislike Lee and more that I like some other WR's better.   You and I have gone over those reasons, and thanks for acknowledging some of them are legitimate.   Your points re Lee have validity too, and Lee is by no means the only WR in this draft with questions/concerns hanging over them.  


But in the end it comes down to preference.  Your's is Lee. I'm fond of big receivers who play "above the rim"...especially when you have a QB, like Geno, with accuracy issues.   With Evans you don't worry about speed, routes or coverage --- just throw the ball in his direction and chances are he'll catch it. I like Moncrief because he's bigger and faster and jumps higher than Lee and has, imo, a higher ceiling than him, Cooks, Beckham and anyone else other than Watkins or Evans in this draft.  


In the end, however, my main concern with Lee is that he may not be the outstanding player he was before the injury, etc.    Everything notable about him is old news, and every cause for concern is more recent, post injury.  I'll take a flier on a guy later in the draft, but not with my first pick....and I think a lot of comments on this blog reflect that. This O has enough question marks as it is...why add another with our top pick in a draft this talented?    



MPTG_Frank
MPTG_Frank

When did this blog become the publicity arm for USC? Pom Poms anyone?

bradysucks
bradysucks

I like Landry for one reason. He is a guy a QB can rely on to make the tough catches in traffic. Some of the catches he makes are spectacular.

People these days get so infatuated with how big and fast a guy is that they lose sight of what's most important for a WR. The best wide receivers have a knack for catching the football and coming down with the ball in traffic. Landry fights for the ball in traffic and regularly makes catches over the middle even when he's surrounded by multiple defenders.

This ability will translate very well into the NFL game in my opinion.

Decker gives the Jets a red zone threat that is legitimate. Another TE will help as well in the redzone. Landry can be your go to guy on 3rd down just like Chrebet and Cotchery once were in the past for the Jets

Steven Windeler
Steven Windeler

@bradysucks I may be getting carried away with Niklas' physical traits, and the fact that he really only played one year at TE. I have the feeling that he's going to be outstanding, but it's only a feeling.


I wasn't talking about how many would be good, but how many would be drafted before Landry.

bradysucks
bradysucks

@Steven Windeler @bradysucks  


Not so sure about how many good Wr's there really are in this draft. There is a lot of hype about the WR position but I'd be surprised if more than 5 of the WR's drafted in 2014 have decent careers in the NFL.


I think Landry has the best hands of any WR in this draft



I think the Jets can get a TE who helps them in round 3

Steven Windeler
Steven Windeler

@bradysucks I'd take them the other way around too, if it looks that way. I agree that Landry is the better player, but there are a lot more good receivers than TEs in this draft.

bradysucks
bradysucks

@Steven Windeler @bradysucks  


Landry won't be there in the 3rd and he's better than Niklas......


Landry is a the perfect possesion WR for the Jets.....He catches everything.......Doesn't matter if the passes are accurate

Steven Windeler
Steven Windeler

@bradysucks Yes I'd love to get Dix, Barr, or Dennard in the first. Niklas in the 2nd, and Landry in the 3rd.

bradysucks
bradysucks

@DrJonathanReefer @bradysucks  


I'd rather see the Jets draft Landry then OBJ.....I've watched tape on both guys and I like both of them.....but Landry is a better WR......Landry is not a speed demon but he has game speed....kind of like Anquoin Boldin


OBJ reminds me a bit of Michael Crabtree.....who took about 3-4 years to develop in the NFL into the WR he is today for the 49ers

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

@a57se @DrJonathanReefer  


yes, i can not deal with life. my good job (which i admit i do hate) my beautiful girlfriend and my luxury car is sooooo tough to deal with, so i need to smoke weed every day just to get by.


Coming from the 57 yr old man who sits on this blog all day long and insults anyone who disagrees with him.


DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

@a57se @Steven Windeler  


mr. windeler and I are actually having a real conversation about this. You are just throwing a temper tantrum and insulting me.


if i where you, i'd suggest seeing a shrink. You have a pretty bad personality disorder and you can get some serious help. 


Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms  include:

  • Believing that you're better than others
  • Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
  • Exaggerating your achievements or talents
  • Expecting constant praise and admiration
  • Believing that you're special and acting accordingly
  • Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings
  • Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
  • Taking advantage of others
  • Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
  • Being jealous of others
  • Believing that others are jealous of you
  • Trouble keeping healthy relationships
  • Setting unrealistic goals
  • Being easily hurt and rejected
  • Having a fragile self-esteem
  • Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

@Steven Windeler @DrJonathanReefer  


Is it so bad that i want my 1st round pick to perform in more then half his college games.


Really? thats my concern. seems reasonable to me.

Steven Windeler
Steven Windeler

@DrJonathanReefer No what matters is if we win. If we're running the ball, or if they double a WR and that gets others open is just as good. Did LSU win the game?

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

@a57se @DrJonathanReefer  


I said i watched the games. 


I also said, this entire time, is he got shut down PERIOD. He will be doubled in the pros dude, WE are gonna run the ball bro. and Geno isn't tom brady and the competition is gonna be 10xs better.


I don't care how much film you watch, your opinion means nothing to me. THESE ARE MY CONCERNS.


stop doing what you accuse brendan of doing all the time.

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

@Steven Windeler @DrJonathanReefer  


and the jets will have games like that too. which is part of my concern. a true dominate #1 in college would have a bigger impact, even with 17 passes.


What the hell is he gonna do, when the jets pass the ball 17 times and the competition he is faces in 10x better.

Steven Windeler
Steven Windeler

@DrJonathanReefer All that matters is whether he got open. Whether or not someone threw him the ball doesn't matter. The florida game they only threw the ball 17 times total.

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

@a57se @DrJonathanReefer  


I answered all question worth answering. Most where you just insulting me. and the only ones you asked i answered.


Regardless of him being double teamed or how the scheme of the O was (which is more like what the Jets O is gonna be then a spread em out throw the ball around O) or how bad the QB is. (which you say is bad for the Jets) He got shut down half the time in COLLEGE. that makes me worry what is gonna happen in the Pros.

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

@a57se @DrJonathanReefer  


Why do I even bother. You're such a troll. Learn to have discussions without insulting people. You're a grown ass man. Act like it.

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

@a57se @DrJonathanReefer  


and he got shut down. I don't care how tough he was. HE GOT SHUT DOWN.


That is why it does not matter what the CB says. OBJ got SHUT DOWN.


not just once, or a few times, he got shut down HALF of his games.

these are real concerns, and no amount of film is gonna change those concerns.

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

@a57se @DrJonathanReefer  


Honestly, why even post what that CB said? You said it like it was some defining reason why OBJ is gonna be good. Not me. I just laughed at you for saying it.


Don't know what is so stupid about that.

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

@a57se @DrJonathanReefer  


then why the hell did you post this 'Lucheiz Purefoy, the CB for Florida (one of the teams Beckhan' was bad' against) stated that beckham was the toughest WR he faced in college."


Like what 1 CB says means anything lol.


great start insulting people! the 57 way. Grow up old man. 

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

@a57se @DrJonathanReefer  


1 guy said 1 guy was good? that'd why u made your decision. Now thats being a troll.


HE DISAPPEAR vs college kids, how the hell is he gonna do vs Pros?

Those are my concerns.

If he can't beat double teams in college how the hell is he gonna get open in the NFL.


I like my 1st round picks to not need 100 excuses to why he didn't perform vs top teams in college.


Plus you like him, and you liked Hill, you're not really someone who should be talking about what WR was best.



Steven Windeler
Steven Windeler

@juunit @Steven Windeler Evans I agree with. Those other guys were catching screen passes, and being schemed open. That's fine if that's what you want. They'll make big plays, but they will disappear also if you line them up outside in the NFL. Beckham has the most potential as a wide out of those players.That's why I'm hoping not to draft a WR at 18. There are a lot of receivers with potential we could draft later.

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

@a57se @DrJonathanReefer  


these are legitimate concerns I have not expressed until today. I will also not be excessive in my concerns. Nor am I going to talk down too, or be rude to somebody who does not agree.


So no, not very troll like. ;)

juunit
juunit

@Steven Windeler  

To a certain extent, they usually do. But look at Watkins' game logs. Look at Mike Evans, Brandin Cooks, Marqise Lee when he wasn't playing on a bum knee.

Some games were better than others, but they also had good games against good teams. Beckham didn't. The huge disparity in his games is the problem. 

Steven Windeler
Steven Windeler

@Pat d You like Lee. We get it. It's tough to run routes when you can't get off the line. How many TDs did he score last year btw?

Pat d
Pat d

Steven

Lee runs all the routes and he runs them better than Beckham

Steven Windeler
Steven Windeler

@DrJonathanReefer I'm not saying I love the guy. I'm hoping there will be a top ten prospect drop to us so we don't have to pick one. All I'm saying is that he's a deep threat, that runs all the routes, while the other guys are not.


They all play worse against better competition though. That includes linemen and QBs too.


Landry may in fact end up being the better receiver, but he can be drafted in the 3rd round. I'd love to get him there.


No one knows how good college receivers are going to be because of the competition. That's why the draft is a crap shoot, and you try to get as much value as you can.

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

Now I'm not saying he wont be good, but those stats are concerning. He disappeared in the bigger games. 


Also 5 of his 8 tds came vs UAB and Furman....