Link: Upcoming priorities for Idzik, Jets

Over at ESPN New York Rich Cimini runs down the top priorities for the Jets and general manager John Idzik over the next couple of months. Tucked neatly between the top priority (getting rid of some of their bigger contracts) and their plans for the draft is the question of how Idzik will elect to spend their considerable cap space:

First, he should re-sign right tackle Austin Howard and kicker Nick Folk, both of whom will be unrestricted free agents. After that, he needs to find a wide receiver, a tight end and a safety. Names on the radar will be Eric Decker, Brandon Pettigrew and Jairus Byrd, respectively.

It’s not made clear whether Cimini has specifically heard that the Jets have been linked with those players or is just anticipating that they’ll be considering the top talent at each of those positions, but they are some interesting names.

The Jets met with Howard at the combine last year to talk contracts with the then-restricted free agent, but we’re hopeful an extension for the 26-year old will be taken care of before then this time around. As for Folk, he got the chance to test the market before returning last year, so it will be interesting if he gets than opportunity again.




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J. Smooth
J. Smooth

Ideal scenario:

Cut Cro, Sanchez, Holmes

solidify secondary with Verner/Byrd, approx $8M for Verner $10 for Byrd are the highest i'd go.

sign Ted Ginn as WR3/KR (no more than $4)

sign one of James Jones, Emmanuel Sanders, or Doug Baldwin. Cheap (Jones cheap-ish) but very solid second receiving options.

if we don't want to draft a tier one TE, I'd like to sign Pettigrew or Pitta (Prefer Pettigrew)

if we want to take a TE in first 2 rounds, I'd like Ed Dickson or Anthony McCoy

sign Chris Williams (G) as a cheaper guard, or Jon Asamoah is we want to pay up.

re-sign Douzable

sign Jason Worilds or O'Brien Schofield as cheaper OLB to rotate with Barnes

if no Verner, resign Lankster, Berry, and sign maybe Tarell Brown

sign ZOLTAN because his name is freaking ZOLTAN.


then draft wr, te, g. = Profit.

McGeorge
McGeorge

Bent,

Any chance the Jets can trade Sanchez for a low pick, like a 5th or 6th rounder?

Assuming they don't want to keep him.

braziljets
braziljets

Can anyone tell me when the FA is open so we can go shopping? lol

kniff
kniff

I'm down for TE Pettigrew... as long as he blocks like a champ. It might be smart to wait for a higher rated guy to come along because we have Sudfeld and Cumby already....


Or just draft Amaro....depth and competition are good.

marcus81
marcus81

Decker would be too expensive and not be that good for the Jets, he's good because he plays with other good receivers that have to accounted for. Austin and Folk should be resigned but not for top money.

Stanley Bostitch
Stanley Bostitch

Bent, or someone like Bent - what are our options w/Sanchez, if we indeed want to get value in return for him? Can we restructure his deal to facilitate a trade? Would be great to see another pick coming our way (4th, 5th?). 

D
D

Dont care much for Semenini

Tooned In
Tooned In

Would completely suck if we over payed on some FA's after we got rid of those three bad contracts. Don't like Decker, Nicks (injuries)  or Pettigrew, so don't want to overpay for their services. Like Verner, Byrd, Pitta and Boldin. Draft offense WR, TE, G, 3rd down RB (Sankey?). Make those late round picks devoted specifically for special teams. Sign Folk, Austin. 


Most importantly, lock up the Wilkshake....

Kyle Ely
Kyle Ely

Cut Mark, Tone, Cro, see if we can get Harris to rework deal, resign folk/howard/colon, sign walter thrumond III, Pitta, Boldin, and possibly Malcom Jenkins, draft Lee, use extra 3rd to move up in 2nd and draft Tre, TE in the 3rd, then a cb, and some lb depth

djf1
djf1

@jake100 Ferocious is a bit of an exaggeration. 

djf1
djf1

@McGeorge scroll down for that discussion.

 spoiler: no


bradysucks
bradysucks

@marcus81 


Decker is a very good  WR - period. He is underrated just like Brian Hartline is in Miami. While I don't see Decker as a true #1 WR he is without question an extremely solid # 2 NFL wide receiver, He is 6 foot 3 and he gets open and can he catch the football as well as block. At the right price he would be a great great addition to the NY Jets.......All the more so if we can get a #1 WR in the draft and also upgrade the TE position.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Stanley Bostitch Unlike last year, there is no financial advantage to be achieved by facilitating a trade.  If he was to be traded, a renegotiation would probably take place at the same time.


Despite the report that leaked out today, I don't buy that there is so much interest in him that teams wouldn't just wait until after he was cut and then pick him up.

funkymonk
funkymonk

@Stanley Bostitch I'd love to get SOMETHING out of Sanchez, but my understanding of the situation is that it's Not Gonna Happen. He's set to make $14 mil in 2014. If we cut him, we recover $8 mil of that, and still pay him $6 mil. So the only way a restructure-and-trade makes sense is if the new deal satisfies all of the following:


1. Sanchez ends up making > $6 mil (or Sanchez has no incentive to agree)

2. The team ends up paying < $6 mil (or we might as well cut him)

3. The team that wants him ends up paying < $4 mil (what I think is the upper limit for backup QB salary)


It's very very hard to see a contract that would satisfy all 3. If Sanchez knows there's a market for him, why would he restructure, when he could instead negotiate with whoever he wants? In theory he could pick the team where he thinks he has the best chance of becoming starter, even if they can't pay the most, because he'll still be getting paid by the Jets.

marcus81
marcus81

@Stanley Bostitch we have to cut Sanchez to save money on the cap and get nothing back, we have to bite the bullet if he goes somewhere and sets the world on fire.

juunit
juunit

@Stanley Bostitch 

I'm not sure that Sanchez with a multi-year deal is more attractive to other teams. Especially coming off an injury. 

D
D

@Tooned InI like Ka'deem Karey more so than Sankey, but wouldnt mind that pick

Kyle Ely
Kyle Ely

@Tooned In Pitta and Boldin just think about it the two guys who made Flaco a 100 mil

nagel100
nagel100

@a57se we have 2 methods of filling out the team.  finally we have cap money and that needs to be spent wisely.  then the draft.  4 picks in first 3 rounds so we need to hit correctly.


First off we must get some playmakers on offense.  A WR and a TE.  RB is not the #1 priority.  I would love to draft Lee or Evans or Ebron with our #1 pick.


second round I take BPA at with DB or WR(TE) .  in third round i go for a lineman ( guard)  and I would take a shot at Thomas from oregon with our 4th pick.  he would change the return game as well as be a great third round back out of the backfield.  the rest of the draft is BPA.



in free agency we sign one wide out ( I would like Golden Tate or jeremy macklin)  and a TE who can block.  cb, guard, safety   we all know the holes.



long shot is QB.


that is the big question mark.  who do you bring in?   a true challenger to Smith or just a back-up.


Vick might be fun to watch.

Pat d
Pat d

Actually it's both. What GM doesn't want to pick his guy at head coach. Especially after the last year in Miami.

juunit
juunit

@djf1@jake100 

Should be interesting if he does get the job though. Based on what I've read, the Browns fired Chudzinski because he doesn't like Manziel, but they love him. Since they've had a hard time finding a HC, I think most of them said no to Manziel also.


It would be so like the Browns to trade their two 1st rounders to move up to #1 and take Manziel, then watch as he crashes and burns. 


Good luck Mike, you snitch.

braziljets
braziljets

@Bent @braziljets Thanks, Bent! Can't wait to see our GM in action!

BTW, I usually read all posts on daily basis... just not posting too much before.

For me it is the best source to keep in touch with the team! Thanks for that, too!

Bent
Bent moderator

@funkymonk @Stanley Bostitch 


Unfortunately, your understanding is flawed.


The Jets can cut him and not owe him a dime.  However, they will have some dead money in respect of money they previously paid him which has not yet counted against the cap (this amounts to $4.8m, not $6m FWIW).


The deal would likely be renegotiated AFTER the trade (or essentially agreed to at the same time) because there would be nothing to be gained for the Jets, they are locked into that dead money no matter what.


Once traded, the team could bring his salary down to pretty much wherever they wanted to and it wouldn't impact upon the Jets.



djf1
djf1

@jroc@a57se Owner of a fantastic NFL name that I hope sees some playing time just to force the announcers to make awkward calls.

Bent
Bent moderator

@jroc @a57se Signed to the practice squad late last year and got a futures deal after the season.

supert
supert

@jake100 @supert @jaygo Weather ain't going to matter.  Bet the 49ers put up a tougher challenge than Denver does.

djf1
djf1

@juunit@djf1@jake100 no one gets fired over their opinion of a potential pick that is far from guaranteed of being an option at draft time.

 Edit:  well, it *is* the Browns


Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent I was specifically referring to Brian Costello's report that there is interest in Sanchez.  It was in the daily links and Cosentino referred to it in his article.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se No I did read it, just wasn't talking about that, even though you were, hence the misunderstanding.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent You responded to my post that referenced "the report that leaked today" by saying "that report".


I was talking about the report that some people are interested in Sanchez, you obviously assumed I was talking about speculation over whether he could be traded, but I'm sure you can forgive me for misunderstanding your reference to "that report".

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent A direct quote from an AFC coach is not really speculation.  It might be a lie, a smokescreen or otherwise inaccurate, but they literally quoted someone as saying they'd make him the starter tomorrow.


But, yeah, expanding that to read into it that there's significant interest in him is speculative and that's why I didn't buy into the quote mentioned in the report.

Bent
Bent moderator

@funkymonk @Bent @Stanley Bostitch There's no reason why they couldn't trade for him and then negotiate downwards.  All his salary is non-guaranteed before and after any hypothetical trade.

funkymonk
funkymonk

@Bent @funkymonk @Stanley Bostitch Ah, thanks, I indeed misunderstood, I thought there was still some guaranteed money left, not just pro-rated signing bonus money. Right, so really unless a team is willing to pay him the actual salaried amount left on his current contract, AND is willing to give up a player or a pick just to keep Sanchez from negotiating with other teams, Jets can't get anything out of a trade.

Tooned In
Tooned In

@Daniel @Tooned In Just saw some of his highlights, looks like dude can play the screen game very nicely. Too bad Sparano isn't our OC anymore to properly utilize his abilities ;)


Thanks for the heads up!

D
D

@Tooned In@DanielI had the luxury of watching a lot of Pac 12 this year and saw both play a lot.   I guess its my personal preference

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent He doesn't though and he certainly didn't in the example above.  You were just being sensitive as always.  It was a reasonable question, one that I myself asked you previously and wasn't entirely convinced by your answer, but took your comments into account.


You go round mis-characterizing what people say all the time.  I've lost count of the number of times someone has accused you of building a strawman argument and using that to sarcastically mock a person or group of people.  If you want me to pick you up on it every time, I will.  Fortunately nobody else (apart from you) immediately resorts to namecalling and attacks as soon as this happens.


An example from today.  Joeyboy posts something about all the free agents he wants and you respond with a comment "how do you expect to pay for this?"  Had Brendan made the exact same comment to you, you'd be whining that he was mocking you or mis-characterizing you or whatever.  However, because Joey doesn't react with insults in this instance and because you and Joey have seemingly resolved to gang up on me for "favoritism" and are now best buds, there's no conflict.


Throughout all of this, not one apology or admission that you're in the wrong at all.  You're not doing a very good job of convincing me I should show you anything other than the door.


Go ahead and mis-characterize anything I say and I will politely and patiently correct you like I always do when my comments are being misrepresented.  I won't resort to name calling or attacks so neither should you.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent If that's the way you feel then feel free go to another site where the moderator is not biased.  It's not your decision to make.


Brendan asked perfectly reasonable questions and said nothing to merit being called dumb, an idiot, rude and obnoxious.  I agree with those who say you're paranoid.  You're just looking for a reason to go off on him at this point.

Bent
Bent moderator

@jake100 I thought you were going to leave this alone?

Marcus Armstrong
Marcus Armstrong

@Bent @Johnsbodybyvi Ledo  "I absolutely hate moderating for this site.  It's awful.  I would gladly stop, but the site would go down the toilet." -> I'll sign up to help you out, if you'd like. Maybe some folks disagree with me, but I do think I'm at least mostly unbiased.

djf1
djf1

@a57se@djf1 seriously?   no one sits around and schemes to railroad people on a sports blog.  again, you're overreacting.   try being civil and not assum8ng the worst all the time.

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@jake100 @Bent Its not fair to either 57 or Brendan for you to hijack a subject that has nothing to do with you.

Bent
Bent moderator

@jake100 @Bent  It's very insulting being told I'm unfair.  Stop agitating and attacking me.


I think being allowed to still post here after your admitted persistent rule breaking is more fairness than you deserve but whatever.



Bent
Bent moderator

@jake100  Not for a long time...and he has been posting here for the best part of 10 years during which time he's been constantly baited by people like you, so it's hardly surprising that he sometimes crossed a line.

Whereas you've repeatedly broken the rules and I'm not sure why you're even allowed to post here, so I'm damn sure not going to show you any favoritism.
As noted above I don't like being forced to deal with these issues on the site and for people to belabor issues and yet here you are.

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@Bent @Johnsbodybyvi Ledo Not one person other than Joey would like to see you stop commenting if you did that you basically kill this blog. You keep this blog humming putting the proper factual information.

FWIW you do side with Brendan that being said 57 an Brendan both bait each other constantly like bickering siblings and even that is okay the both add rivaling viewpoints which is a good thing. The problem is at some point in their conversations the become frustrated and one or another of them begins with uncalled for personal insults or belittling the others view point as legitimate. Arguments are what we are here for just being respectful while making these arguments is what gets lost sometimes 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Johnsbodybyvi Ledo I disagree with you.  Did the above argument start because of Brendan?  He did literally nothing and this is a common pattern.  What is "intruding on others opinions" anyway?  You ARE allowed to disagree with someone, you know.  The majority of the arguments on here start when someone gets upset at being disagreed with, whether that's Brendan or someone else.


I have spoken to Brendan several times when he has gone too far, but I've been able to do that off the pages of the blog because unlike certain other posters he doesn't force me to address arguments ON the site despite being asked not to over and over again.


And whenever I have challenged him, he's apologized, changed his behavior and admitted he was wrong rather than criticizing me publicly, continuing to belabor issues and making transparent efforts to bait people into arguments so you can criticize me for being unfair again. 


I absolutely hate moderating for this site.  It's awful.  I would gladly stop, but the site would go down the toilet.


Therefore I guess I will just have to stop commenting on here forever if that's what the people want.

djf1
djf1

@a57se@Bent Dude, you've seriously developed a major paranoia here.  

levi
levi

@jake100 @a57se Maybe theres a blog out there that suits you two better where the mods dont interact and rule with an iron fist. Just an idea take it how you want.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent I'm not moderating here, just sharing my opinion.


A good moderator would probably have banned you ages ago.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se Brendan did literally nothing wrong there.  What a ridiculous overreaction.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Holy a;igihajkl;shg;kajdhfg;lkjfdahadhsahd;ga


You are so mindlessly obnoxious I can't take it anymore. 


ALL I DID WAS ASK WHAT THE HELL YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. I don't save your posts in a binder, I don't know everything you've ever posted on here. I'm legitimately asking you a question, but you are such a relentlessly argumentative person you can't simply answer it. 


You said "Ellis and Wilkerson," that's what I'm working on. Instead of being a punk, you could have just said "actually, yes, I am accounting for Howard at (whatever price point you picked) and that would also eat into the cap." Instead, I'm a dumb idiot who adds nothing to the blog. HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN!? I really wonder if you have un-diagnosed bipolar disorder, because your mood swings are unpredictable and outrageous. 


I'm done. You can have your mindless, circular arguments, I'm not being a part of them anymore. You can have a happy little high-five with Joey every day, since you're apparently his biggest supporter, and laugh about Brendan The Idiot. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se  "If we extend Mo and Ellis at 'fair' market value plus bring back a lot of our own FA's Which we need to do or find suitable replacements, we won't have gobs of money to spend on big ticket guys."


Based on the above statement, which you said, how am I supposed to read your comments? You're acting like re-signing Ellis will eat up enough cap space, along with Wilkerson, to prevent the team from having "gobs" of cap space. 


Ellis resigning for $1-$1.5 million is almost negligible in terms of cap space. Did you mean Howard? 


But thanks for, once again, flying off the handle and being catty when all I'm doing is asking you fair questions. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se So...how does that preclude the Jets from signing anyone? 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se I know it's a fair question, as most of mine are. 


Are you saying $3-$4 million annually? 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se What is fair value for Ellis, who has never started a season and has had injury issues?

harold
harold

@Brendan

Finally

harold
harold

@Brendan

It is time to let the dino known as Harris go!

Marcus Armstrong
Marcus Armstrong

@jake100 Pitt's two, maybe three tiers above Chandler... As much as I love Boldin, I want the team to be young... And Tate is definitely in the "guys that are gonna get PAID" category. But okay. (Though, tbh, I'd take Baldwin over Tate... Think he'd be the better deal)


Would love to sign Pitta or Asamoah, though... Those would be A+ signings in my book.

harold
harold

Lets sign

Shields, Daryl Smith and cut David Harris as well.