Minnesota a potential destination for Mark Sanchez?

ESPN’s Minnesota Vikings reporter Ben Goessling speculated in a recent mailbag that Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez could be an option for the Vikings this offseason:

One name to keep an eye on is Mark Sanchez, who seems likely to be released by the Jets before they have to pay him a $2 million roster bonus on March 25. Sanchez’s numbers aren’t any better than Christian Ponder’s, but he has been to two AFC Championship Games (though admittedly with better defenses than Ponder’s had). Sanchez is only 27, and if the Vikings aren’t going to bring back Cassel, they might look in his direction before they consider some of the other names in this thin group of free agent QBs.

Bent, TheJetsBlog.com

I expect the Jets to retain Sanchez beyond the start of the league year just in case there is enough interest in him to acquire value in a trade. In truth, that’s probably a long shot, but the Jets have absolutely nothing to lose by keeping him on the roster (as you’ll recall they did with Tim Tebow in similar circumstances this time last year). It’s also not completely out of the question that the Jets would opt to try and retain Sanchez on a restructured deal as Kristian Dyer speculated last week. Keeping him under contract enables them to control his rights and who he is permitted to negotiate with.

There’s a two week gap between the beginning of the league year and the due date for Sanchez’s unlikely-to-be-paid roster bonus. If most of the best backup quarterbacks on the open market are being picked up during that two week window, then perhaps you could end up with a situation where there is more than one team interested in signing him and entice one of them to give something up to secure his services. The acquiring team could renegotiate his contract, none of which is guaranteed, as part of the transaction.

Like I said, it’s a long shot, but if the Vikings and a team like the Raiders (who have been linked with rumored Jets target Michael Vick) are unable to address that need in those first two weeks, perhaps they could be played off against one another. I wouldn’t expect much in the way of compensation though – a low pick, an exchange of picks, a conditional pick or another player with warts would be about the best you could hope for.

It makes no material difference to the Jets’ cap situation whether Sanchez is cut or traded, as long as that transaction happens before March 25. The only exception to that is that if he was released rather than traded they could, in theory, defer some of the dead money to 2015 by opting to treat the release as a post-June cut. I doubt that’s a consideration, though, because they should have plenty of cap room in both years.




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bradysucks
bradysucks

Can't stand Sanchez but playing indoors in a dome in MN will benefit him as it would any QB. As soon as he gets outside though he will stink

idothis2
idothis2

I don't know if geno is the answer, but Rex has a tendency to overreact to the mistakes of a young/rookie qb and micromanage them to the point where they are afraid to make mistakes and they stop playing the game with the exuberance of youth. i remember in sanchez's rookie year in the 1st game of the year against the texans when sanchez dove head 1st and collided with the defender in the endzone that rex chided sanchez for that play and i never really saw sanchez play with that reckless abandon again. i saw a similar play last season with geno where he was running for the 1st down early in the season and shoulder bodied a defender near the sideline and rex chided him for that. i didnt see geno play with that reckless abandon again until late in the year and especially in the last game against the Phins where he ran like he was determined to keep his coach's job and looked like he was having fun when he absorbed punishment. rex has to let his QBs breathe when they make mistakes which is why i like the fact that he/MM/idzik stuck with geno thru his midseason struggles

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

Sanchez forces a cut he receives nearly 5 m.walking away and is more likely to have a larger pool of teams interested because he'll come without a draft pick price tag. So Sanchez gets his money from the Jets and whatever his new team offers him in a new contract.

If you're afraid of Sanchez staying then you should fear a re structure.

Bent
Bent moderator

Say Sanchez gets another job with another team.  Will you (a) root for him to succeed (b) root for him to fail or (c) not be able to bring yourself to care one way or the other?  And why?

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

See these kind of articles is where you lose me. Why would Sanchez restructure his contract to be traded when there would be more teams interested if he was flat out released? Use reason,If he does restructure it's not going to be so he can be traded.

Bent
Bent moderator

@johnnyl65  


"Sanchez forces a cut he receives nearly 5 m.walking away"


No he doesn't.  The $4.8m dead money the Jets would suffer relates to bonus money previously paid.  They don't owe him another dime.

Lloyd Jay Reife
Lloyd Jay Reife

@Bent  No troll could ever say a  thing negative about Sanchez' eventual release.  In all my years as a Jets fan, no Jet has been even close to catching the abuse Sanchez has received from Jets fans and haters alike.  

If Mark catches fire on another team, anybody who criticizes the Jets for releasing him, has more hatred within than football smarts.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@Bent I don't want Sanchez to have immediate success.  I want him to kick around, get humbled, maybe play in the CFL and, then, like a Rich Gannon or Jim Plunkett have success in his early- to mid-thirties.  That way both the Jets would be right (not ready to be a franchise QB) and Sanchez would be right (always had the talent, finally put it together).

harold
harold

I would root for him, never disliked Sanchez, just saw that he was done in NY.

idothis2
idothis2

@Bent as much as i try, i can't get past the Tennesse Monday night game. i saw a guy give up and that sucked all the air out of me for sanchez. I dont wish him bad nor do i wish him well. i'm annoyed at myself because i still like him as a person

jets4life
jets4life

@Bent Honestly I would want to see him fail.  I don't usually feel that way but the last thing I want to see is him go somewhere else and light it up.  I don't think that will happen but if it does I can already see the articles about how the Jets completely mishandled him and held his potential back.  I don't mind if he plays ok but don't want him to play well.  It would annoy me because I do see potential in his game but he could never fully get it together.

jets4life
jets4life

@jake100 Everybody knows that the Jets are going to cut him.  Why trade for him when you can just wait an extra couple of weeks. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100  You're kidding yourself, dude. Why would a team trade for someone who is undoubtedly going to be cut in the coming weeks? 

Bent
Bent moderator

@johnnyl65  I disagree, that could well happen in practice and is certainly worth consideration.


Are there multiple teams interested in him?  If so, then the possibility of a trade exists from a Jets' perspective.  They would then allow Sanchez to negotiate terms with the team or teams that were interested.


The restructure happens after the trade and if Sanchez can't agree terms then the trade won't happen.  But if he can't agree terms in that situation, he's taking a gamble if he thinks he can get better terms in the open market.
Since he is not allowed to talk to any other teams (tampering), he can't know what other teams might be prepared to offer.  And if he does, and the Jets are able to file a tampering complaint, then maybe they end up getting their pick after all.

bradysucks
bradysucks

And the queen has ballss

Sanchez = Mr accuracy

pisano
pisano

@Bent @johnnyl65 No one should owe this guy anything. Tannenbaum should be castrated for giving an extension to Sanchez. Tannenbaum should be flipping burgers at Burger King.

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@Bent @johnnyl65  And still that changes nothing to support that he would restructure to be traded.

Please offer me an explanation why it would benefit Sanchez to be traded instead of released?

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Joey has stated many times that Geno has a ways to go, he just wants to see the team give him the opportunity to improve. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@idothis2 @Bent  Throwing a pick on the first play in Arizona and then throwing a pick six to a lineman in the first quarter of the first preseason game this year stick in my head too.

Bent
Bent moderator

@jake100 @Bent  Definitely a good guy, although I'd expect some lingering negativity towards him due to his partying, the fear of seller's remorse and some of the bad memories he was involved with.  I lean towards (c).

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@Bent @johnnyl65  I feel this article is more of you trying to calm the masses,since you hear more than you let on.  Why would Sanchez offer to restructure when a better deal can be achieved by forcing his release?

I don't buy it.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @bradysucks  Ironic!


(That it went over your head and you were discussing QB accuracy, I mean).

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent  


Yep, you're right.  But every time you say usually instead of always, it vindicates my decision to cover that base in my article, just in case.

harold
harold

@Bent @johnnyI65

I have told people on the blog this is a possible scenario.  I s it going to happen, who knows?

But to discount it  because you have made up your mind it won't or should not happen is a little short sighted.  Keep an open mind their are possibilties beyond those we what we have thought of.

Bent
Bent moderator

@johnnyl65  It happens in practice a lot.


Let's say the Vikings want Sanchez and they want him for $2m per year and they're prepared to give up a pick because they think the Raiders are prepared to pay him more.


From the Jets' perspective, that's great, so they allow Sanchez to talk to the Vikings.


Now, Sanchez's representatives might say they'd rather take our chances on the open market.  So they continue to look for trade partners, fail to do so and cut him on the 25th.


So, Sanchez goes back to Minnesota.  But, oh dear, they've just added someone else instead because they thought they'd lose Sanchez to Oakland.


Sanchez goes to Oakland instead and they're interested, but only for $1.5m per season.  After all, Sanchez could not speak to the Raiders while under contract with the Jets.  Worse still, maybe they're not interested at all.


Perfectly feasible set of circumstances and Sanchez clearly should have agreed to make that renegotiation with the Vikings...the move you'd want his reps fired for.


Unlikely, perhaps, but still worth discussing, I contend.  I do think he'll probably just be cut FWIW, just covering all the bases in my article for completeness.

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@Bent @johnnyl65  He doesn't need to do that,a team would be free to structure a deal without having to give away a draft pick which makes more sense for a team interested. From a business perspective that argument makes no sense to me and anybody advising Sanchez should be fired for even suggesting it. As for reputation that doesn't hold being released just means the team failed to procure benefit from your release. It doesn't make you any more or less desirable as a player.


Actually not having to give up a pick would make you more desirable not less.

Bent
Bent moderator

@johnnyl65 @Bent  You're looking at it the wrong way.  He's not "restructuring to be traded" he's "restructuring to agree terms with the team trying to acquire him".  


From his perspective and that of the Jets it makes no difference whatsoever whether he agrees terms on the open market or as part of a trade, so if a team he's interesting in going to is prepared to give up a pick to secure his services then what I suggested above is possible.


It's not that it benefits him, but it doesn't necessarily prevent him from going somewhere he'd like to be and agreeing terms he is happy with.  Therefore, I'm not presenting it as likely, just a possibility worth considering.


Also, it looks a lot better on your CV to be traded than released.  I'm sure there's some pride involved.

Disgruntled Jets Fan
Disgruntled Jets Fan

@Brendan @a57se there has definitely been an improvement.   Been a couple of weeks since he told me to perform a physically impossible activity.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se You realize that Joey has been well behaved lately, right? I haven't had an argument with him over silly stuff in weeks, and I can't remember seeing anyone else doing so, either. 

NYCPEinGermany
NYCPEinGermany

@Bent @idothis2  

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Brendan
Brendan

@Bent I thought they should have gotten more as well, I wanted at worst a 1 and a 2. 


But I don't get why 57 feels you can't approve of a trade that doesn't work out exactly how you wanted it to. I wanted a two 1's, would've settled for a 1 and 2, I got a 1 and 3. I am happy with that deal, all things considered. I don't see anything wrong with thinking like that. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@jaygo @a57se  To be fair, I'll admit I thought they should have gotten more last year, so that is probably true for some people.

Bent
Bent moderator

@jaygo  That's fair enough, I'm just speculating on his value, after all.  I'd have thought that the ACL would bring his value down more than the high contract, especially in light of the recent and impending cap hikes.


I'll concede two things: (1) he's a year older! (2) the Bucs' awful season probably hurt his value by proving that one great corner doesn't influence a bad defense all that much.

Bent
Bent moderator

@jaygo @jets4life @Bent  I'd still give up a first rounder for Revis and I'm sure more teams would now than would last year while he was still injured.  He was excellent this season, pretty much back to his old self.


Obviously I don't like the contract though.

jets4life
jets4life

@jaygo @Bent @jets4life I agree and that could happen.  He could go somewhere else and play well.  Their could be a couple of gm's out there who would be willing to take a chance on him and it could work out for them but its not going to be a bidding war.  expect a 7th maybe 6th rounder at best if we can work out a trade. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@jake100 @Bent  I'm talking about some of the rumors that he wasn't entirely focused on his role here.  Stuff like that video that leaked which he admitted was embarrassing and unprofessional.  Of course it's no big deal in the grand scheme of things but it does contribute towards a negative sentiment from a fanbase that was already souring on him.

jets4life
jets4life

@jake100 @jets4life Maybe a team would do that but I doubt it.  Jets wouldn't get very much in return but I guess something small is better than nothing.  I just don't think the demand will be that high for him. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se  I remember trying this with Hunter and Tebow in the past too.  I wonder if there will ever be a season where we don't have at least one player we're all desperate to trade to some sucker team.

bklyndude
bklyndude

@Bent @jake100 @jaygo @Brendan

FA WR's that can only get a one year deal will look to better QB situations first.  The Jets would have to offer a multi year deal to a good WR because of that perception.  

And not naming Geno a starter with their current backups is really just organizational and coach talk until they sign a decent veteran backup.

Bent
Bent moderator

@jake100 @jaygo @Bent @Brendan  Good FAs might perceive that Geno isn't very good though, so naming him the starter could backfire too.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @jaygo  That's why this story is good for the Jets.  Any buzz, be it perceived, media driven or whatever increases the slim chances that some team who may be the only interested team decides to trade for him just to make sure.


By shining a light on that here at TJB, hopefully we're doing our part.

Brendan
Brendan

@jaygo I know, but does any team look at Mark Sanchez and think he's a clear step above any of the other potential backups on the market? I'd be surprised if they did. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent  That's if you're prepared to include Sanchez on the list of what most would consider quality back-ups.  YMMV.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent  Yes, probably.  But not definitely, so it was worth me mentioning the possibility in the article.  I still think he'll most likely be cut.


See my example above of how Sanchez could lose out if he wouldn't go along with such a move because by the time he hits the market most of the teams with a need might already have filled it.

Bent
Bent moderator

@johnnyl65 @Bent  


But I did acknowledge he could be staying on when I said "It’s also not completely out of the question that the Jets would opt to try and retain Sanchez on a restructured deal as Kristian Dyer speculated last week."


I haven't heard anything, but if I heard a restructure was happening I'd definitely assume he was staying.  Makes no sense to do that and then try to trade him or release him anyway IMO.  Any restructure would have to happen at the same time as the trade.

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@Bent @johnnyl65  Hearing a re structure was happening,calming the masses would be interjecting a trade scenario only and not acknowledging a restructure can also mean he's staying on.

Bent
Bent moderator

@johnnyl65  "I feel this article is more of you trying to calm the masses,since you hear more than you let on"


In what respect do you think I would be calming the masses?  That part intrigues me.  Is it that everyone is worried we're keeping him and I'm just saying "don't worry, if they do keep him it's probably until they can rule out trading him"?


I haven't heard any inside information on Sanchez so I don't know what the team is thinking, so everything above is pure speculation on my part, but I am interested to see where you thought I might be coming from!