Now on injured reserve, what’s the Jets plan for Stephen Hill?

As was announced on Friday, Stephen Hill won’t be suiting up for this offense this weekend or any of the next two due to his knees.  Hill will end the season for his second straight season on the injured reserve and while it sounds as if the whole thing has been a disappointment for the organization due to their high hopes for him, GM John Idzik made it known to Hill that he still has a role to play on this team as they move forward.

Jets general manager John Idzik pulled Hill aside and told him to remain focused in meetings and to keep absorbing knowledge because “we have a plan for you.” Hill said his left knee has bothered him all season, but also said it was the same knee as last year, when he suffered a sprained LCL in his right knee and had December surgery, missing the last three games. Ryan said it wasn’t one knee, but both.

“I don’t know what the extent is. I know the young man’s really frustrated because it was one knee and then the other knee. He just wasn’t right for the last couple weeks. He got through it, he could participate, but he just wasn’t the same guy. This wasn’t the guy we drafted that ran the 4.2 in the 40,’’ said Ryan, who didn’t rule out Hill needing surgery.

“Is surgery an option? I’m not sure. Certainly, I’d think that’s a possibility.’’

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

Hill’s first two years have been a disappointment, but I still think there’s hope.  The Alshon Jeffrey comparison to me is unfair for two reasons.  First, he has Brandon Marshall to play off.  Second, he has a veteran quarterback who at times can be a dynamic playmaker.  As Bent has illustrated numerous times on BGA, there’s been times where Hill has been open and Geno didn’t have the faith to make the throw.

If Hill can get and stay healthy, maybe the cutting and knee issues become less a problem, but also if the team’s quarterback has a better rapport with him that won’t hurt matters either.  Going back to Alshon Jeffrey, at this point I don’t think that Hill will ever be as talented a receiver as Jeffrey is, but there certainly is room for upside should the offense be allowed to grow up around him.

31 comments
fourbten
fourbten

He is not worth a roster spot. The sooner they rid themselves of his ilk, the better.

Mike Milea
Mike Milea

Stephen Hill needs to learn how to attack the ball. Thats what his body size and frame allows him to do well, but he never does it, he's just not aggressive enough of a player to play the ball like an ELITE receiver. He lets the ball come to him just like smaller receivers do because they lack the attributes to properly play the ball in coverage. Regardless Hill is a big guy and a good athlete he needs to get back to 100% so that he can be utilized CORRECTLY. Play to his strengths, WR screes or double reverses, get him involved beacause he likes to have the ball in his hands with room to play with, unfortunately he hasnt gotten that opportunity with the Jets yet... YET

levi
levi

I forgot how annoying he is. Its all coming back to me now.

a57se
a57se

On a normal team with a decent QB and offense, Hill would not have been thrown out there his rookie season. He would have been the no. 4 or 5 receiver instead of the number two. He would have been given the time to learn on the sidelines and develop his 21 year old body in an NFL weight training program.

Instead, we started him from the beginning because of injuries and poor roster management by Tanny. The kid hurt his knee and has missed a lot of much needed practice time and was again thrown out there as the starter with lousy QB play for the second year in a row. 

You can give up on him and call him a bust and all, but I am not ready to do that.

marcus81
marcus81

Victor Cruz almost didn't play for 3 years, before he made an impact, not saying Hill is Cruz,  except for no.1 picks don't expect players taken in later rounds to start till after 1-3 years, look at the Pats with Vereen and Ridley, didn't play for 2 years and look at how they play now, and no it's not just Brady either.

nickballs
nickballs

i couldnt agree more with the Jeffrey commment....im so damn sick of seeing people whine about "oh we coulda had Jeffrey"...GET OVER IT.   every team can say that about a ton of guys every year....get over it please..my god

Jim Welker
Jim Welker

Hill was unlucky. He hit drafted to the worst situation for a raw talent that needed to be developed. Trying to develop under a crappy 2012 Sanchez and even worse 2013 Smith along with no veteran help and injury plagued seasons, is almost not fair. Brady developed a Dobson and Thompkins. Imagine if Hill were drafted by the Pats? Brady would have done wonders with his raw talent.

juunit
juunit

I'm very tired of this talking point. Bent could find examples of every receiver being open and not having the ball thrown their way. Hill is not special in that sense. There is no conspiracy holding him back. He just has not been any good.

Maybe he'll get better. Honestly though, I hated trading up to draft him in the first place, so I find it hard to care.

davem
davem

Two year old Sushi... It stinks

Brendan
Brendan

He's still just 22 years old, will be 23 next season, and he was always believed to be a 3-4 year project by the scout who pushed for him. 


Give him another season, hopefully he can stay healthy and have a QB who will utilize his deep speed. 

levi
levi

Its way to soon to give up on Hill. He has had two very bad QBs not throwing him the ball because they are afraid to screw up and two different OC's with last years being a horrible one. Then throw in the fact that he was raw to begin with and you get what we got with Hill.

joemustgo
joemustgo

Haven't given up on him yet but I wish the Jets would stop swinging for the fences with these low round projects (Hill, Winters, Ducasse, Ellis). We need low risk guys who can step in and contribute.

LIJetsFan
LIJetsFan

Hope springs eternal here is Jets land.  He's cheap so I guess he stays.  He just looks like a wasted roster spot to me.  He can't catch, he can't run routes, he's fragile/injury prone, and his college experience is worthless to both him and us. 


He was a project all along and he hasn't developed.  Add injury prone to that and IMHO it's time to pull the plug if his next TC is subpar.   

frustjetfn
frustjetfn

@Mike Milea " Hill needs to learn how to attack the ball'

I agree that he must do that, but can't really decide to what extent that can be taught. Some guys  have that innate ability and others just lack that aggressiveness on the field or are too afraid of injury to go all out. If Hill is sticking around, I guess we'll find out, but in the future I want us to use our high draft choices (i.e., Rounds 1-3) on guys that already have it.

a57se
a57se

@jetfuel 

Every time I see one of your comments, I hear the Fat Lady singing. Especially when you disrespect the Blog....wonder what that means?

frustjetfn
frustjetfn

@marcus81Cruz was a UDFA who wasn't going to hang with the Giants until he lit up the Jets in preseason, but Hill was a friggin 2nd Rounder. Yeah, the draft is a crap shoot, but there's no way any "project" player should be taken in the first 3 rounds. That rule should be  basic for any professional organization.


Bottom line is Hill was drafted way too high by a personnel department with little or no clue. Someone said earlier this week (Brendan?) that the man who scouted Hill said he would take 2 - 3 years to develop and yet Tanny-Rex drafted him in the first 3 rounds. That's a lack of understanding of the value you must get out of each draft selection. IMO the scout was accurate, the GM-HC were stupid. They even failed to realize that no only did they not get appropriate value for the draft position, they overlooked the possibility that said player may never develop or could get injured in the 3 years before ever providing the team significant value on the field. - These stupid / wasted drafting decisions must stop now.

Bent
Bent

@nickballs Jeffrey was regarded as a disappointment in his rookie year.  If the Jets selected Jeffrey and the Bears took Hill, then maybe Jeffrey would be struggling and Hill would be lighting it up, for the reasons BB stated.

levi
levi

@juunit I think you have to take into account the epic failures he has had at QB and Sparano's utter incompetence.

nickballs
nickballs

@Brendan agreed...lets give the kid another year and hopefully with some better QB play...with a legit WR on the outside, opposite of him.....likely he will still suck but who knows

BDarc23
BDarc23

Does "pull the plug" mean you want to release him? That seems to be ridiculously extreme for a 22 year old player in his 2nd year. If pull the plug means make him actually earn a starting spot...then I agree.

Mike Milea
Mike Milea

@frustjetfn@Mike Milea I believe it can be taught, it is one aspect of my game that I've specifically focused on for some time now and I have gotten much better at going up for the ball and coming down with it. Hill needs a little tuning in his game overall, but if he can train to be a ball hawk and go up and grab it at the right time then his effectiveness as a player will sky rocket with his attributes. I believe it IS something he can be taught, especially at his young age.

Bent
Bent

@BDarc23 It's not that rare though, is it?  The Jets have several second rounders from the '11 draft on their roster and practice squad.

frustjetfn
frustjetfn

@Mike Milea@frustjetfnWe shall see. The part that seems doubtful is determination / aggressiveness. You might have it, but other guys either don't have it or have it to varying degrees,


BTW I don't think HC's have a good handle on this either or there wouldn't be a coaches telling one player to pick a fight with another to toughen him up. 


Rather than trying to teach / instill toughness & determination in a player, I'd like to see the Jets add that category to their scouting reports. Then you wouldn't have to try to turn a laid back player into a lion.