Panel: Geno Smith is league’s worst starting QB

According to a panel of general managers, former-GMs, personnel evaluators and other football people, Geno Smith is the worst quarterback in the NFL (ESPN, July 2).

Smith came in dead last among voters, who did relent that “it’s too early to write off Smith” and he’s “young enough to make a move.”

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

The panel of “experts” must not have watched much Matt Schaub game tape last year.  Or Chad Henne, or EJ Manuel … or hell even Joe Flacco.  Flacco was atrocious in 2013 posting a Sanchez-like 19TDs to 22 INTs.

Yes, Smith had a bad year and was thrown into the deep end without a lot of talent over the course of 16 games as a rookie. There were questions as to his readiness as an NFL starter, but to anyone who paid attention there were less questions at the end of 2013 than there were at the start of the season by a wide margin.  I can’t say the same for a quarterback like Chad Henne or Matt Schaub, that to me is the definitive of “worst.”

There were decidedly worse quarterbacks and we’d have to think that Smith’s ceiling is higher than the likes of Matt Schaub, among others.

This is classic pandering cloaked as journalism.




97 comments
Tequila Joe
Tequila Joe

Sweet, there is only one place to go from here...

pisano
pisano

Who cares if Geno's the worst QB in the league, he won't be the Jets QB anyway, if Vick doesn't beat him out in training camp, he'll have the job early in the season.

Daniel Diffin
Daniel Diffin

Certainly not the worst. He had a bad rookie season, but with very big attenuating circumstances--he really should have had a year as the back-up, he should have had somebody besides Kerley who could catch the ball, etc. The fact that he played very well in the last month of the season leads me to think that these "insiders" watched only his November tape. If that's the case, then they are absolutely right--no one was worse in the month of November. But his work in December was solid, if unspectacular.


And, heck, he won 8 games on a team that had almost no talent, except on the defensive line. 


He was so inconsistent last year, it is really impossible to say where he goes from here--he could have a really good sophomore season, or he could stink. My heart tells me he'll be a very good QB, but my head says "Not so fast...we'll just have to wait and see."

JC
JC

He certainly was not the worst, but not far from it.  I woulnd't give up on him yet.  He had likely the worst receivers in the NFL and also, I didn't look it up but I would bet that about 75% of his INT's last year cam in the second half when the Jets were down by 2 TD's or more and had no choice but to pass.  When you are forced to pass and have terrible receivers its not hard to get INT's.  A more polished QB would have less INT's  in the same situation but a rookie needs room to develop.

gusto
gusto

Was Geno the worst? Probably not, but he was at the bottom of the list regardless. He needs to get better if we want to be proud of him. I believe he'll get better. 


And if ESPN thinks Geno was the worst in the league, they must think very highly of Rex Ryan for going 8-8 with the worst QB in the leauge.

nickballs
nickballs

hey ESPN, why dont you  S my D.........another example of why i dont watch that joke network......

Richard Massamillano
Richard Massamillano

Terry Bradshaw passed for 38% his rookie yr---I predict Geno Smith with pass for 30 plus TDs this yr---I guarantee it! 

Richard Massamillano
Richard Massamillano

ESPN is pure garbage-- plus they hate the Jets --I canceled cable and went to a HD FTA antenna --mostly  to get away from this kinda of bull-crapola content. ex players and know nothing heads scratching out a living talking about lists?  NFL network is another waste of time this time of year--with their list of 1-100 ---please I rather sort my sock draw --sometimes there just aint no NFL news---try reading a book, "Cant wait till tomorrow cause I get better looking everyday"?

Kirk Michael
Kirk Michael

Geno has a higher ceiling than a lot of QBs in the league especially who Bent mentioned. Hes got an arm, I would say top 5-7 in speed at the QB position,and he steps up a good amt in big spots. He had to catch up to the speed of the NFL level like all rooks and they all do it at there own pace. I think its easy for NFL gms, press,etc to just say hes the worst because were the JETS.He also was missing all of his receivers for almost half the season. He's got a decent offense out there with him now,so well see but I believe  he'll take a big step this year and the JETS AND JETS fan base will shut people up once again and this is a challenge for G. Now he's gotta prove it but hes got a very good coaching staff, Defense, running game,o-line, and better receivers from top to bottom, and the best fans in the NFL behind him to help prove he can be good on a consistent basis. 

marcus81
marcus81

Geno had the worst receivers in the league last year and still finished 8-8, put better talent around Geno like the Jets have done this year and let's see if he can be better than 8-8 this year, then we can decide if he's the future, Sanchez had a good statistical 3rd year but still kept turning the ball over in big spots, his 4th and 5th years where horrible punctuated by the but fumble to totally embarrass this team, if Geno can be a steady QB that takes care of the ball and gets a score 1 out of 3 possessions, Jets will be a very good team

Juan Montalvo
Juan Montalvo

All these top QB's(Payton,ex...) are allowed to have bad rookie seasons,but Geno, because he played for the Jets, is not treated the same by the ESPN Lords of Sports. I just don't understand the "Hatred" for the Jets. You click on PFT and the hate for the Jets by other teams fans blows me away. The Giants and Eli, have one of the worst seasons in Giants history,and ESPN,and the other talking heads are feeling sorry for them ,and making excuses. All this will make it so much sweeter when Geno,Rex,and Idzik,lead the Jets to the Super Bowl,and all those haters scream in pain every time they have to hear,"and I now present to you The Super Bowl Champion New York Jets". Can't Wait.

jvsvn
jvsvn

Just another dumb story about the Jets. Let's see "The Jets are the Worst Team in the League", "The Jets have the Worst Talent in the League", "Smith is the Worst QB in the League", etc., etc, etc. The jets were 8-8 starting a rookie QB who played in a spread offense in college. I'm not one of those who thinks that everybody hates the Jets, etc. but the coverage is definitely biased. The facts show a different reality.

Paul Samuels
Paul Samuels

Geno will be better this year. With the addtions of Decker and Amaro, plus a healthy Kerley, he will have at least 17+ TD's this year. 

Alec Wilson
Alec Wilson

Give him weapons and lets see, wasn't it a stat that when Kerley played the Jets were 8-4 ?? Even though the Jets have a much harder schedule this year through the first 10 game, I still think they can go into the bye @5-5 and finish 10-6....ok I'd rather be hopeful, but I really think the AFC east will be much closer this year

__fense
__fense

I've said it before, and I'll have to say it again. Players, coaches, and clergymen on the west coast are among the worst people to ask about who's a better player. They all have work on Sundays while the games are being played. The only coaches and 'executives' who really payed attention to Geno Smith last year were the Jets coaches, who have an obvious bias, coaches from other teams within the division, who have an obvious bias,  and the Browns coaches from last year, who were all fired. Everyone else either didn't play the Jets, or didn't play them late enough in the season to actually see the end result. 


Coaches and players have to watch so much tape on the teams that they are actually about to play against that they don't have time to watch tape on teams they aren't playing, or have already played. 


You can see it when NFL Network was showing their 'Top 100' players poll. All of the players they were filming didn't know what they were talking about. They didn't know the names of the players they were voting for, when they weren't just voting for their teammates. A poll of "football people" is invariably just a poll of what ESPN says, because that's where they get their information about which players are good from. 


It doesn't matter if you know everything there is to know about playing QB. If all you know about Geno Smith is "ESPN thinks he's terrible", you're going to think that he's terrible. The knowledge is useless unless you've actually applied it, and no one is going to actually apply the knowledge by spending hours charting plays for all the QBs just because ESPN wants to you to help write a story for them anonymously. 

a57se
a57se

I think your response is a classic case of pandering to Jets fans.

jaygo
jaygo

Look at that, the Bassman accuses ESPN of "pandering cloaked as journalism."  Well, if that ain't the the pot calling the kettle black.


You would think people, even the haters, would get tired of the "Geno sucks" stories.  


I am but I'm taking the Bassmans lead and will instead continue to muse about The Greatest Living Jet.


Interesting journalism coming out of Miami talking about Dan Marino's future role with the Dolphins.  Always thought there were parallels to Marino and Namath on and off the field. Most of this article could be about Namath and the Jets, particularly how the team would embrace a goodwill spokesman but the guy wants to be taken seriously though no one in the organization takes him seriously.  Reading the comments to this piece is fun too.  Unlike our Joey, Dolphin fans get on Danny not for bashing the team but for not defending the team when others bash it.  He'd be chum if he ripped the team for attention. http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2014/06/the-dolphins-and-dan-marino-have-been-talking-about-a-job-with-the-organization.html


Cheers

Lloyd Jay Reife
Lloyd Jay Reife

Guess this year's crop of quarterbacks do not bode that well as Phil Simms stated Geno is better than any quarterback  drafted this spring.

Are we leaving the quarterback-generated league again ?  (said with sarcasm)

Brian Papa
Brian Papa

So the same Geniuses that said the Jets were the worst team last year said Geno is the worst QB? Dirt, get off this shoulder.

tsjc68
tsjc68

I don't have Insider, so the only name not behind the paywall for me is the #1 QB.


And the #1 QB is... Tom Brady.  Tom Brady is tied for the best QB in the league, according to this panel?  The same Tom Brady who airmailed countless throws last year and had happier feet than Kordell Stewart?


You mean to tell me that these 26 talent evaluators all had a chance to put Tom Brady on a level clearly below the levels of Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck, and Drew Brees and they collectively said "nah, Brady's still on their level" and then even went on to say "He's the best"?


THIS LIST IS CRAP FOR THAT AND THAT ALONE.

Lloyd Jay Reife
Lloyd Jay Reife

I still  feel with Geno's speed and confidence in the Red Zone, he's a force to be reckoned with, and that was last season!

SackDance99
SackDance99

FWIW, I thought Josh Freeman was the worst QB who started any games last season. 42.9% completions and going 0-4 in his 4 starts is pretty awful.  Geno might have been the NFL's most inconsistent QB, but worst?  No way.

Tequila Joe
Tequila Joe

@Richard Massamillano I'm a die hard Jets fan and want to see Geno succeed but I'd take that bet any day of the week. How about if i win you burn all your fedoras and if you win I'll wear one and do my best to make it look cool.

marcus81
marcus81

@Juan Montalvo  a lot of that hate comes from Rex talking too much when he got here, he should have stopped after saying he wasn't here to kiss BB's srings

BDarc23
BDarc23

Do you think 17 tds is good?

__fense
__fense

@jaygo And that's why our beat writers are so bad. Jets fans love to hear people bash the Jets, while the rest of the league will rip guys apart for not being overly positive. 


And then the national media takes the shortcut that works for the rest of the league and assumes that the truth is worse than what the beat writers are saying. 

__fense
__fense

@tsjc68 Wait, they let you see 31 out of 32 people on a list, and then put the last one behind the paywall? Does ESPN not think that its readers can do a simple process of elimination?

tsjc68
tsjc68

Tom Brady, 2013:

6.92 yards per attempt (22nd in football)

87.3 QB rating (17th)

40 sacks (9th most)

60.5% completion percentage (21st)

10.5% DVOA (12th best, behind Tony Romo, Matt Ryan, Colin Kaepernick, Phillip Rivers, and JOSH FREAKING MCCOWN, among others)


Naw, eff-that, HE'S STILL THE BEST.


Sincerely,

NESPN

a57se
a57se

@SackDance99 

I am pretty sure he was not included in the survey. Mike Glennon would have been the starter evaluated for TB...

tsjc68
tsjc68

@SackDance99

Josh Freeman had, what, four different organizations give up on him in a single 365-day window?  That's impressive.


He ate the whole wheel of cheese and pooped in the refrigerator.

Richard Massamillano
Richard Massamillano

@Tequila Joe Ur on kid---if Geno threw for 17 last yr to that group of sorry WRs ---this yr he's a cinch to pass for 30 to Decker, the rook TE and others watch!

Kirk Michael
Kirk Michael

@Juan Montalvo I think anything with the JETS offense is an easy target for the media and of course because of the terrible play but when Rexs mouth is blamed I dont think thats the underlining issue all the time is because REX and the JETS have been a defensive football team since hes been here and thats what the JETS have been about and a big reason why MS career as a JET Declined after 2 to 3 years. In the next few years i see Rex being more well rounded n will become a better in game coach n will also start to learn more about the other side of the ball. With Marty there it will help Gs development along with the whole offense and help Rex become more involved and knowledgeable on the offensive side of the ball n the two of them will make us a contender. Dunbar and Marty are so important to our success and are two of the best minds in the game at there craft and Idzik, Rex, Dunbar, N Marty will get us to the where we were a few yrs ago but we'll be a more complete team and we'll see what happens when were there.....

tsjc68
tsjc68

@BDarc23

No, but 26 TDS WOULD BE STELLAR, RIGHT BUDDY?!?!?

tsjc68
tsjc68

@__fense @tsjc68

No, the only name they LET me see was the #1 guy.  Brady was first, everyone else behind the paywall.

Daniel Diffin
Daniel Diffin

@tsjc68 In Brady's defense, his receivers were hardly better than Geno's--and we make all kinds of excuses for Geno not having anyone to throw to. His stats were a lot better when Gronk was in the line-up. Who else did he have to throw to? Edelman? Edelman isn't even as good as Kerley.


I'm not saying Brady was the best last year--far from it. But he manages to find a way to win, despite being surrounded by crappy players. With the lack of talent they had on offense, they had no business scoring the 3rd most points in the NFL last year. Brady may not have looked great last year, but he found ways to get his team into the end-zone.

__fense
__fense

@tsjc68 @__fense Oh, okay. That seems dumb for the same reason top-x lists on the internet always count down instead of up, but at least it doesn't make the paywall useless. 

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Hanknaples @Brendan


Hank: Is Chris Ivory a veteran?
Miscellaneous Jets Player: Yes.

Hank: But is he a veteran like Chris Johnson?

Miscellaneous Jets Player: Sure, I guess.

Hank: So he's the same veteran as Johnson?

Miscellaneous Jets Player: No, I guess not.

Hank: So then he's not a veteran, is he?

Miscellaneous Jets Player: Do you have a mental issue or something?  What's your deal?  Wait, how did you get past security?


... aaaaaaaaaaand, SCENE!

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples I think by now every player on the team would have rolled his eyes and walked away by now.