Quote: Cromartie on his Jets’ future

“I’ve always considered myself a Jet and gonna retire a Jet. Until I’m told otherwise, you know, that’s my feeling.”

- Antonio Cromartie, speaking on NFL Network’s NFL AM this morning




33 comments
Bytor
Bytor

Considering hip swivel is a huge part of being a good cb, I'm with the "do anything to replace" Cro camp. For lack of better options, bring him back and take the risk. But first try for a Talib, Grimes, Shields or Verner if Tenn doesn't keep him.


Fun piece of information: I drove to Florida a couple of weeks ago. When you get to Jax, Camping World has multiple billboards imploring the Jags to sign he who shall not be named. Freakin' America!

t__k
t__k

IMO the Jets need to come out of FA with a #1 WR or CB....both would be great.  If they can't get the corner then use Cro as the backup plan after they cut him.

Matt Kelly
Matt Kelly

I think Cro's done..... I hate to play the "I Know somebody that knows somebody" card here, but I actually have a doctor friend that works for Atlantic Health and spent time with the team this year.    He told me this weekend that Cro's hip is way worse than anybody in the general public knows and it's going to get worse....fast.   The jets would be best off cutting ties 


also told me Stephen Hill has the "knees of a 55 year old" and that the coaching staff indicated they wanted Alshon Jeffrey and talk about how Mike T and his scouts were the ones that picked Stephen Hill 

nesboogie
nesboogie

Thoughts on signing Jairus Byrd?

SackDance99
SackDance99

After reading "Collision Low Crossers", I have a different opinion of Cro from what I had before and it isn't positive.  Besides Sanchez, no player has bedeviled the Jets' coaching staff as much as Cro.  All the coaches and his teammates marvel at his athletic ability and football knowledge.  Yet, when he's on the field, Cro repeatedly failed to do what the coaches know he can do, like press cover and tackle.  Compounding the issue for the coaches was the fact that Cro is thin-skinned and very difficult to critique without him becoming enraged.  In short, he's a coaching headache and an enigma.


Now, the book was written about the 2011 season and Cro's 2012 was, IMO, by far his best as a pro.  So, maybe his 2013 season should be looked at through the prism of 2012, where he looked like he had become less of an enigma and more of the superstar that with his talent he should be.  But, I could understand it if the Jets decided to part ways because sometimes even talented players aren't worth the headache.  Plus, hip surgeries are tricky things.  This is one where I think however the Jets go, I'll trust their judgment because it's a more difficult decision than it seems at first blush, even if Cro would come back for the right price.

machoking
machoking

It has to be at the right price for us.  Again, this is not something I would want to see the Jets draft .... Then you would be putting Cro up against the FA field. I would think that Cro is better then what will be available and he has proven to be a mature leader.  With that being said, if we free up money and take a chance on a something new, I would understand.  We might not be losing all that much.


Cro is great as much as he is horrible..... With out D line, we might be able to make normal CBs look amazing.

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

Cro was playing at a top level when his contract was reworked we can agree that he is not worth his salary escalation. His injuries and playing through it have definitely hurt his market value.

Does this get done before Market value is set for corners or does Idzik set  Cro's value ?

bob
bob

I think the Cro issue maybe on the back burner till after the Draft. Could be a DB in the 3rd or 4th round fall to the Jets and they have no choice but to draft him.

1969JAN12th
1969JAN12th

Just sayin'.....as long as the money is right.


"I want to retire here," Revis told Jenny Vrentas of The Star-Ledger. "I think (general manager) Mike (Tannenbaum) knows that. I think Rex (Ryan) knows that. (The Jets) drafted me, they gave me a chance, so yeah, I want to be here and never play for another organization again."

Ceifus Hornswoggle
Ceifus Hornswoggle

I think we can find a much cheaper, healthier option to hold down Cro's 15 yard cushion.  Dude is afraid of contact and needs to retire.

fourbten
fourbten

I hope they can keep him at the right price.

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

I'm sure he believes that,but how does he value himself financially and the same for the Jets how do they value him financially  and can they come to the meeting of the minds.

a57se
a57se

@SackDance99 

nice post SD....glad you read the book, how'd you like it?

Joe/Orlando
Joe/Orlando

@SackDance99 It's funny because I always had a soft spot for Cro, but I came away from the book the same as you.  The thin-skin was a bit of a surprise but the most surprising was the incident with Pettine.  Sounded like he manned-up about it after the fact, but it's still a pretty bad story.


I guess I went from "would be sorry to see him go" to "indifferent".  But part of me still would like to see him get a chance to redeem himself with the Jets after last year's showing.

BDarc23
BDarc23

@jake100 I don't see how...they can release him. He was a good player the 1st year.

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 Even a re-worked contract, the value of which you couldn't possibly know since it's yet to happen yet? 

SackDance99
SackDance99

@a57se@SackDance99It was a great insider view of the coaching process in the NFL.  It's a must read for a Jets fan, especially those who are interested in Rex and his strengths and weaknesses.

machoking
machoking

@jake100@machoking Yea, there is no debating that... He played well, then horrible all in the same game. I am not afraid of losing him, I just feel like maybe we could do worse??? In the end I would be ok, if we let him go. I am looking for the next big thing.  I am not confident that this team could get to the superbowl and win it with some of this left over baggage. 

BDarc23
BDarc23

@Brendan @jake100

Cro was that bad this year. The reworked contract is good only if he improves significantly.  We saw this year that Rex will start him even if he is bad. 

a57se
a57se

@SackDance99@a57se 

Excellent! The Rex-Pettine dynamic was really interesting to me.....not sure DT does the same thing for rex!

a57se
a57se

@Bent

Bent, unfortunately, Joey has no idea what he is talking about here either.

Bernard Mclaughlin
Bernard Mclaughlin

@Bent@Brendan@jake100  Since he always considered himself a jet, it kind of explains his matador act on Shonn Greene when he was with the Chargers!  But I like the guy, he played hurt for us and played well for us, ran kicks when needed , played WR, if he's got anything left and can restructure I'd like him to stay.

Bent
Bent

@Brendan @jake100 The Jets were able to reduce Cromartie's 2013 cap hit because Tannenbaum gave Cromartie a deal that wasn't over the top and had built in flexibility.  His deal was only restructured once - by Idzik - and that didn't tie the Jets to him for 2014 so I'm not even sure what Joey is referring to here, unless he's talking about the 500K salary advance in 2010 which has no salary cap implications whatsoever.

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 The fact that Cro's contract "came back to haunt" the Jets is completely untrue. But you ignore facts, so you will repeat this comment over and over like you're known to do. 

Brendan
Brendan

@BDarc23 Right, that's why I'm hopeful they cut him, let him test the market while they test the market on their end, and if the two sides think a reunion is the best option, they'll work towards it. I'm in no way locking myself into Cro for 2014, I'm actually much higher on Verner from Tenn. 

BDarc23
BDarc23

@Brendan My point is that while maybe he should have started this year...bringing him back means they won't be bringing in someone else who is better.

Brendan
Brendan

@BDarc23 My point is that he should have started. Even at his diminished state, no one on the roster was going to outperform him. The Jets have a lot of solid mid-level depth guys who would be woefully exposed as starters. It's the Endy Chavez Corollary. 

BDarc23
BDarc23

@Brendan I agree they should try to bring him back on a much lower deal but I do feel like if he is on the roster then he will start. Rex is loyal to a fault with these veterans. I am fine taking the risk because I figure he won't be worse and therefore it's not a make/break for the D.

Brendan
Brendan

@BDarc23 He definitely had a down year, but at worst he was slightly below average. Given that he faced up against #1's for most of the year (they had Milliner take over that role towards the end of the year), his performance is what an average CB would have put out, possibly a little bit better. Throw in his injury and you get an idea that he did a job that no one else on the team was ready for. 


I definitely want to cut him and want the team to look at younger replacements, but I'm definitely okay bringing him back on a cheaper deal. He earned that much playing through pain for the benefit of the team. 

BDarc23
BDarc23

@Brendan I can't agree that Cro was an avg CB this year. I am thinking not even close to avg but I don't have anyhting statistical backing that up. I am basing on my perception from watching the games.

Brendan
Brendan

@BDarc23 First off, let's realize that "bad" for Cro is average for everyone else pretty much. 


He did do some good things this year, despite people acting like he had a 16 game nightmare.