Quote: On the verge?

“He seems like he has a lot more confidence right now … you can see that in the locker room, on the field, in the way he’s calling plays, the way he’s out there commanding the offense, commanding the huddle.”

– Nick Folk talking about Geno Smith on NFL Network




62 comments
marcus81
marcus81

if Geno pans out and makes the necessary improvements he will be a steal, since he was considered a top first round talent, he only slipped because of the diva perception owners got from him, all Geno has to do is be efficient and not turn the ball over, if he can help the offense be ranked 10th or 11th with this defense that would be great

Pablo Bruno
Pablo Bruno

Darn it I've been trying to post a pic, how is it done?

harvlis
harvlis

Command is good. Poise in the pocket and throwing accuracy is better. We shall see.

Jeff E. Guy
Jeff E. Guy

I love Nick Volk but I'd feel better about that quote if it was by someone on the offense....



BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

Is ball security a trait that can be really taught at this level or as a qb is that one of those things you either have it or you don't?

machoking
machoking

I'm a big Folk fan, but in what way does this comment qualify is legit? Is he in the huddle?? Aren't we all reporters at this point? 

Pablo Bruno
Pablo Bruno

@Jeff E. Guy Just because he doesn't play on offense doesn't mean his opinion isn't valid, I mean here we are, armchair QB's, putting our 2 cents in, most of us never played football, and we have a sense if someone is playing well or not.  Thinking about it, if I had the choice to play football, I would choose to play Field goal kicker, don't have to be on the field most of the time, no pressure unless your'e in clutch situations, and you get a front row seat to see live nfl action. lol.. I wish Folk would comment more on what he sees going on in ota's since no one is commenting on what is going on most the time.

__fense
__fense

@BringBackDaveTelghe There's two different types of ball security for QBs, Fumbles and Interceptions (and both can be taught). Geno is still working on the interceptions part, although he did seem to get better at not throwing them as much towards the end of the year, but he's all but ended his fumbling problem. He had a really bad game against the titans (including the play where he tried to switch hands behind his back to throw it away left handed instead of just going down and taking the safety instead of a fumble and a TD), and then he went to everyone on the team individually and apologized for losing that game, saying "This will never happen again." And it looks like he's keeping his promise, if you look at how he holds the football. Before that game, he was always holding it with one hand like he's throwing it, even when he's running and scrambling. After that game, he always had two hands on the ball, and even brought it into his chest when running, to make sure he wouldn't fumble. As long as he doesn't fall back into bad habits, I'll be surprised if he ever fumbles the football again when he isn't halfway through throwing the ball. 

a57se
a57se

@BringBackDaveTelghe 

Geno actually improved his ball security during the regular season last year.

it can be taught but some (Sanchez for example) never seem to get it.

a57se
a57se

@jake100 

If the OTA's are NON-Contact, how is this significant at all?

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 @jake100  Dude, pump the brakes. You've posted half the comments in this thread, we all know how to check Twitter. Pick your spots. 

Jeff E. Guy
Jeff E. Guy

@jake100 You sound like Cimini. Right now the only thing Geno Smith can control is his performance in the OTAs. All indications are, he's doing fine. Pads are in the future. Last I checked, Smith can't control the future. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jetlife I have no idea what they're doing. My initial thought was they're doing it to prepare for Willie going down again/not being ready, but then wouldn't they just replace the RG spot? 


Or are they just going to throw their worst G between Mangold and Brick to try and minimize the damage? 


I have no idea. Genuinely lost on this one. 

@Pablo Bruno its hard to believe he is a freshman. i like how he stays up on the pocket, ball high in the body, eyes down field when scrambling, and at one point facing the rush he was able to change arm angle and throw a strike td pass to a moving reciever.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se You can still see that he's doing things right. Is he picking up the right guy? Holding good form? Hand placement? Was he able to get his body in front of Mo/Sheldon rather than just shoving them and try to arm block? 


These are "contact non-contact" practices. They're not playing patty cake out there, they're still getting work in. 


The idea that you can take nothing from OTA's is just so misguided. 

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @jetlife 

Thinking about this before and I thought the same thing...they put the least experienced guy between Mangold and brick.....

harold
harold

@Brendan

Or just getting the young guys reps on both sides to see how they respond.

jetlife
jetlife

@Brendan Could be completely wrong about this, but it doesn't appear that Colon's return is being anticipated too highly if they are playing Winters at RG somewhat regularly in OTAs.

Pablo Bruno
Pablo Bruno

 @Pablo Bruno yea, he looks very fluid, natural, makes decisions on the fly can scramble, has a rocket has great size. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 @Brendan I get it, but this is turning into the "Joey posts everything he sees on twitter" thread, that's all. 


It's good that they seem to be having a better practice than the last time they had the media there, at least. They need to get some momentum heading into training camp. 

Mathew Pelc
Mathew Pelc

MayBe aboushi is out playing winters in camp right now so he's taking that LG spot and winters is back up to colon.

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 "Winters was a mess last season and he played between Mangold and Brick."


Exactly. And Aboushi didn't play at all. So, as of now, Winters > Aboushi. 

Brendan
Brendan

@harold Why, though? Winters needs as many reps at the spot they intent to start him as possible. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jetlife He'll be back in 3 weeks, max. Unless he gets hurt again, he's starting. 

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Brendan @jake100 Clearly, we just need an open-thread for every single time there's media access to an OTA or a practice, so Joey can linkdump everything in there to his heart's content.

juunit
juunit

@Brendan @harold 

Maybe they intend to start him at RG? I remember this had been mentioned a few weeks ago as possible, that they'd switch him to RG.

jetlife
jetlife

@Brendan Why work Winters in at RG then, when he needs as much work at LG as possible? Using him as an insurance policy is fine, but I would think working at LG would be more important at the moment.

Brendan
Brendan

@jetlife That's my point, I would think they just leave him at LG if that's where they intend to start him. 


I'll wait to see how they use them in training camp, perhaps this is just a reps thing to get familiar with multiple positions. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @jetlife What if Aboushi is legit challenging for Winters' spot so they're giving him a chance at LG and using Winters as the potential third guard backing up Colon?

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent That'd be very interesting, considering they force-fed Winters on the offense last year.