Quote: Schefter on Vick-to-Jets rumors

I don’t expect Michael Vick to be back in Philadelphia…And then he’s gonna have to decide what’s the best circumstance for him moving forward. I think the Jets will be in play. … I definitely think the Jets will have some level of interest in Michael Vick. Definitely.”

- Adam Schefter, speaking on the Ross Tucker Podcast (Source: Rotoworld)




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tw22
tw22

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UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

If we walked away from FACY with one of the guards from the Chiefs, a solid CB like Shields or better yet Verner, and a mid level wr like Roberts and one higher level wr like Tate, I would be real happy. If no cumby, Chandler or Petigrew. 

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

My biggest surprise last season was Colon playing in every game, although, he did get hurt at the end. We cant defy odds like that again. He was a solid starter even if not spectacular and brought nastiness to the line, but we cant rely on his health this season. I would love to have him as depth for cheap. I have no clue if he will stay or get more money on the market. My perfect scenario is he signs for a a back up role and real cheap.

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

Still waiting for Howard to be locked up. Pace wont be until the 11th or later, if at all. Cumby we also need to resign. Colon, only if very cheap for depth.

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

A little over a week until we see Johnny Z in action, cant wait!

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

I actually think Idzik  will make only one decent splurge and the rest will hopefully be young healthy mid level talent to fill holes. Idzik is committed to building through the draft and not over spend on bigger names. I have to agree with this approach. 


I will admit, names like Byrd, Verner, Orakpo wet my appetite, but that is not the idzik way.  We are fortunate to have a GM that takes a measured approach. I do think we will have one fairly big signing, but the rest will be mid level or slightly lower. As long as they are all young, healthy and can fill holes with productive play without breaking the bank, I am down with that and want the draft to do the rest. In Idzik we trust.

kniff
kniff

Right now I would prioritize FAs WR Golden Tate and OLB Brian Orakpo... then bring in one of the Chiefs FA Guards along with another year with Colon... Winters and Vlad provide depth....now our O line is addressed.

Cro gets another year at a reduced rate, and we draft another CB in round 3.... Milliner starts as well, and we hold on to Walls or Berry for depth. 

I would rather spend money on  J Byrd than an expensive FA QB.... I'm leaning on a Geno Smith with a killer O line, two Monster TEs, a ramped up WR corps, backed up by Simms, and a 3rd round QB like Mettenberger.


So to recap... Tate, Orakpo, Schwartz (or Asamoah,) and Byrd..... two Offense two Defense...

Everything else is in house and can be resigned.....and yes, we must draft like geniuses!!

Marvel
Marvel

Bent,  you've probably stated them in the past but What are your views on the qb situation, how would you handle it going into the off season /season? 


Draft?  free agent?  all in on Geno with capable backup? training camp battle?  etc..


(also, would u be for bringing in Matt Cassel or is he as bad as my man Brendan ssays )



lagoo
lagoo

Does anyone one think Aaron Donald could play olb for us? He's more athletic then coples. I don't think we'll draft him but I think he'll be a great player.

bob
bob

Awe No!

Roger Graziano
Roger Graziano

His personal life, as any athletes, has nothing to do with his performance on the field

jetsfn
jetsfn

i have nothiong against Michael Vick he has paid his debt by the time he has served. On that note I do not believe he would be a good option for a back up he is injured too much and I do not believe the NYC media would be to kind as they never are anyway to any athlete with a past....

Rob R
Rob R

as a season ticket holder, if vick is on the team i will not attend a single game, I am sorry, he may have paid his debt and all that but I still have the choice to not agree with employing him, even besides the obvious the circus and attention he would bring would be tebow all over, and we all know how that ended up

ganggrncap
ganggrncap

For those of ya downing Vick I'd love to hear who ya feel is a viable option other than Vick.


Please don't mention McClown as I just ate my dinner.


Cousins isn't a option.


THERE IS NO ONE ELSE - THRU FA OR DA DRAFT

jimjets
jimjets

I LOVE Dogs...love them . I forgive Vick and believe he deserves a second chance. I'd be happy with Vick or mccown but we need one of those guys

Joe/Orlando
Joe/Orlando

I don't dislike the idea as much as some. Just please bring in a QB who can hold down the fort if Smith gets dinged up or can save a game if Smith's is having a really bad day.  If the Jets do end up bringing Vick in I have to believe MM - who knows him as well as anyone - believes he can fit that bill.

RCBennett
RCBennett

As a football move this seems like a significant upgrade over McCown, Garrard or Sanchez and of the free agent QB market he seems the best option currently available to actually push Smith or take over if needed. No?

Joseph Koll
Joseph Koll

Vick did some very terrible and inhumane things to dogs. I believe he paid his debt to society. EVERY human being deserves a second chance, forgiveness, redemption and all that. I have forgiven him, and I love and respect all God's creatures. Enough already with judging him on his past. Judge him as backup/ competition to Geno and leave it at that.

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

We also need Lankster and or Berry for depth.  I hate to say it, but I think Cro is gone. I wont want him back with the unpredictability of his hip that has been on and off for years and I dont think he will play for what the Jets will offer him. He needs some dough for all his kids. Even if cheap though, if he gets lit up like last season it will hurt the team. He is not getting any younger and seems to avoid contact.  He has sub technique and cant rely on raw talent with his age and injury, he gives too much cushion. I think it is time to move on from him. Milliner will still be learning and making some rookie mistakes. We have to pick up a solid vet at CB in FAcy. Safety, we can make do and even have some young potential while Landry qbs that area, but we cant get torched on the outside like last season at CB.

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100  We don't really know what the Idzik way is when he can actually afford elite talent. He bargain binned it last year because he had no choice, and proved he's capable of finding useful talent on the trash heap, but until we see him play out this year, I'm not sure we can say what he is/isn't yet. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100  Joey, the bit about the drops isn't true. Jones has been 24th ('13), 18th ('12) and 12th ('11) in catch rate for WR's recently. 

Brendan
Brendan

@kniff  Swap Verner in for Byrd and good god almighty. 

Pat d
Pat d

Why settle for Tate. Go after Graham. Not so sure Cro is going to agree to play for as cheap as some think.

ganggrncap
ganggrncap

@bob


Come on Bob-O!   You mutts have to forgive Vick!

williamg1
williamg1

@Rob R  The main difference between Vick and Tebow is: Vick can play QB. Tebow couldn't. 


I could have lived with the Tebow hype if he could actually play, but he sucked. 

Pat d
Pat d

If Carr is there at 18 he is a better option than Vick. Geno would be the backup in that scenario.

Bent
Bent moderator

@RCBennett  You're probably right, but the Tim Tebow trade made some sense as a football move...

Marvel
Marvel

@RCBennett

McCown on a 2 year deal would be a much better option imo. 

Marvel
Marvel

@Joseph Koll  

no shots but everyone does not deserve a second chance, vick does, but rapists ,padaphiles etc do not..



not the place for this but I can't stand when people make blanket statements like that.


Vick isn't worth the money, or roster spot, regardless of his past. if he comes @ the min. I'll take it.



UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@Brendan @jake100  

True, I am just going on his past, but very true, he never have this kind of money to play with. I still think he will take a measured approach with only one decent splurge, just my hunch.  

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@Brendan @jake100  

It seems everytime I seen him play, he was dropping key catches. I dont think he is a top wr, albeit better than average. I think he benefited more from one of the best qbs in the game and other weapons around him.

bob
bob

@ganggrncap @bob


I no like Vick he no put his mittens on when it snows outside...



Joseph Koll
Joseph Koll

You are right. Not the place and it came out wrong. I'm just tired of people saying they won't be Jet fans anymore if Vick is signed. C'mon!

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@Brendan @jake100  

Exactly, Idzik will calculate everything and not rush into anything. The cap increase will make even more important. Just because he has the money, many other factors have to come into play to spend it, at least in the most prudent way. The prices will be inflated and less to choose from, so being cautious and not getting into bidding wars is important.

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100  Every move of his will be calculated, and I highly doubt he rushes into anything out of emotion or panic, I agree there. But I think when you have ~$50+ million to spend, that could change things. I still think he'll make sure the team has easy-out clauses and is getting a value, but I foresee him spending some of that cash on top talent. To some degree he has to, once they make those cuts, because they'll need to spend a pretty penny to get to the minimum cap. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 I'd give it three weeks before Jets fans started with the Cotchery comparisons, if it took them that long. 

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@Brendan @jake100  

Thats the key... reasonably priced. I would not be unhappy if we signed him for a good price, but I would not be ecstatic either. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 I don't know how you can quantify something like "he benefit more than his teammates from their elite QB," so I can't really argue that. 


But the key catches thing isn't true. He's consistently making tough catches in the middle 1/3 of the field for first downs. Teams need a player like Jones. I'm not saying it has to be Jones, but he's proven, he's tough and he's a good all-around player. The comment about Jones might pricing himself off the Jets' radar is potentially true, with the higher cap and top level guys being signed already, but if he's available and reasonably priced the Jets have to give him a look. They're not writing off 2014 like some fans are, and Jones is a perfect glue guy for a young receiving group. 

bigfinkin
bigfinkin

@Joseph Koll  

I understand completely why some people would want to stop being fans.  I myself would struggle with this signing a great deal.  It's true other players had done some terrible things.  Ray Lewis got in a fight and probably murdered two people, but what Vick did is different.  He inflicted untold pain for no reason other than entertainment.  I get that dog fighting is cultural, but what Vick did goes far beyond just dog fighting.  Any grown man who participates in such behavior is broken in my opinion.  I don't buy the second chance stuff.  The guy went to a publicity firm and started filming a documentary about his comeback before he even left prison.  Only 32 people on the planet get to be starting NFL QBs at any given time.  Does one of them really need to be a person who set animals on fire?  


At some level I understand this from a football perspective, but ultimately football is just a game.  Vick's actions were some of the most abhorrent and unsettling behaviors I've ever read about.  Cheering for such a man would be difficult for me, as I imagine it would be for many people who want to set a good example for their children.  

Joseph Koll
Joseph Koll

@bent

Thank you kind sir. I don't get a list. Maybe that feature doesn't work on a mobile?

Bent
Bent moderator

Hit reply and either just type in their name (ie "@marvel") or hit the @ button to select their name from the list.

Joseph Koll
Joseph Koll

Marvel,

How can I reply to a specific person even if it's not their post? Much appreciated.

Marvel
Marvel

@Joseph Koll  

 Definitely agree with u there, signing Vick shouldn't make someone stop being a fan, at least it won't make me stop.